Elamin and Rosie turn their attention south to reflect on Tuesday’s verdict in the Derek Chauvin case. The former Minneapolis police officer was convicted on all three counts including murder and manslaughter for killing George Floyd in May of last year. What — if anything — does this verdict change, when it comes to policing in the U.S. and Canada, where charges and convictions are rare in cases of fatal encounters with police?

The two also focus on the COVID crisis unfolding in Ontario, where a chorus of experts from many fields say Doug Ford’s government has led the province into chaos. But what happens if Ontario can’t or won’t take further necessary action to combat this third wave of COVID-19? What options are on the table then?