Phil and Ted continue their conversation with Gerald Casale the co-founder of DEVO. In Part 2, DEVO is discovered by David Bowie, launching them into a platinum record sensation that all came crashing down… or as Gerald calls it, DEVOlution.

Gerald discusses collaborating with Brian Eno to produce their first album and how they were labeled as “difficult” in the studio.

Their biggest hit, “Whip It” was written as a satire of American exceptionalism, but when radio stations misinterpreted it as an ode to a twisted sexual fantasy, DEVO played along and produced a hilarious send up music video that played for decades on MTV.

Gerald offers a surprising reason for why DEVO eventually devolved as a band, and how the pandemic is taking a toll on himself and the band’s latest prospects for a reunion.