Episode from the podcastPlay is the thing

Episode 5 with Ivan Brett

Released Tuesday, 14th May 2019
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Ivan Brett is a teacher, author and play obessive. His book and podcast are both called the Floor is Lava, and both are a pure joy.
www.ivanbrett.com 
Ivan and Max talked about adventure, play and encouraging kids into the play space. Enjoy!
If you're interested in the UK games expo event that Max talked about there's more info at https://youtu.be/oWWdwIr0IlM