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Episode 8 with Jason Perez

Released Wednesday, 3rd July 2019
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Where to start? Max starts off comparing Jason to a burlesque dancer, then Jason sings to illustrate the concept of trauma. 
They talk about a ton of games they love and end up debating whether flow is a self-centred phenomenon!
Who is Jason, you may ask... Listen to find out.
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So we talked about a lot of things:
Psychology: 
Michael White and narrative therapy: https://dulwichcentre.com.au/michael-white-archive…
Flow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology)
Games: 
Forbidden Island: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/65244/forbidde…
Star realms: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/147020/star-re…
Mice and Mystics: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/124708/mice-an…
Spirit Island: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/162886/spirit-…
Legend of the five rings RPG: https://rpggeek.com/rpgfamily/2437/legend-five-rin…
Root: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/237182/root