What do those things have in common? Listen to find out, as Bret and Jess chat to creator of The Orphans, Zack Fortais-Gomm about inspirations for Orphans, sound production and design and its many layers, and how you need to hire him.
Our theme music is by David Devereux of Tin Can Audio - Thanks David!
PodUK 2020 performance applications are open - check out our twitter @teampoduk for more information.
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