In 1995 Ward Cunningham created the first wiki for the Portland Pattern Society. Now, 16 years later, hear what this tech luminary has to say about Wikipedia and even the controversial Wikileaks. For host Miles Forrest, this has been one of his favorite interviews, and he talks to Ward about his hobby of building Aruduino robots, the rise and fall of Smalltalk, and poses the question if Ward could commission IBM's next Grand Challenge after beating human opponents at Jeopardy, what would he build?