Nathaniel Boyle is all-things travel. He is the founder of the online creative travel community Holocene, the host of “The Travelers” podcast, and named by the White House as one of the Top 100 Influencers in travel. Now that I’ve said “travel” enough, let’s talk beer!

In this episode, Nathaniel stopped through San Francisco on his recent Transformative Travel Tour, and as a fellow beer enthusiast, we met up at San Francisco’s Cellarmaker Brewing for a sampling of West Coast IPA’s. Amidst the brews, we chatted about this newfound concept of “transformative travel,” his drinking stories from around the globe, baseball, and the creative and culture impact of brewing and sharing a good craft beer.