Episode 54 sees Liam in a real pub (remember them before the world decided to cosplay the movie Pandemic.) with Laurent "Lags" Barnard.

You'll know Lags from bands such as Krokodil, Moones, Gold Key, but most of you will know Lags as the guitarist and founder of the UK hardcore punk act Gallows.

You can expect Liam and Lags to talk about Cartoon Networks 'We Bare Bears', Playing music while pissed and Lags love of Horror movies.

They, of course, talk Gallows. They touch on the early days and hustling, and talk about the journey of being offered a million-pound contract from Warner.

Lags talks about the pressure that came with that contract and Liam asks if there were early signs that Frank Carter (the original vocalist) wanting to leave Gallows as they recorded the album 'Gray Britain'.

Lags open up about a couple of years without Gallows in his life and how Franks replacement, Alexisonfire Wade MacNeil, became his brother from an overseas mother.

You can support Lags and the boys during these unprecedented time by going to pick up some Gallows merch online via this link.

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