Thomas Page McBee is an author and journalist who writes about masculinity, and gender more broadly. Because Thomas is also trans, I entered the conversation with a preconceived set of beliefs, mostly based on the popular narratives I'd seen in media about trans people. Thomas and I discuss where his story and reporting diverged from those narratives, and he helped me understand that gender is complicated for all of us. Thomas has a unique and informed perspective on issues many men struggle with, including emotional detachment, gender policing, shame, and violence.

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