First the guys talk about starting 2017 with minimalism in mind. Then they go on to discuss the great actor Sir Ian McKellen who proves that dedication to a craft and time lead to true mastery. Thought he is most well know for play Magneto in the X-men movies and Gandalf in the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit films, Lam and Chad each believe he has greater roles. Which do you think will be their favorites? Which are yours? What defines greatness?