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Wow. Some stories actually that happened when I was working the street the other night, we went to a block party and up and Watson and I got to see some of my cop buddies that I hadn't seen in years and years and years like Billy Amy, and what a mountain of a man, that dude is make him real life, real crime security, chief.

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I mean, he must be like six foot eight.

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I forgot how big he was.

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He still a cop with Baton Rouge, city police department, but we used to be on the SRT team together.

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And I've known them for over 21 years.

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And we got to laughing and talking about some different things.

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I'll tell you one night what happened.

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I was on a uniform patrol.

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And for some reason I was on the west side of the parish, which I've told y'all in the past, the parishes separated geographically, east and west for law enforcement purposes.

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And it was probably like 2 30, 3 o'clock in the morning.

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You know, the, the bad guy hours, if you will, there's nobody on the road at that time of the night, except for cops and bad guys, period, and you know, bad guys or girls being drunks or, or, you know, just drug dealers or whatever.

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So we got a call 1 0 7 P that's yellows cop turns for suspicious person, right at this new development of neighborhood that was going up and nobody was living in there yet.

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It was, but the roads were black top. They had the lots and they were building some homes.

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And so generally on these types of situations, that's where people go in and steal the materials that the contractors have on job sites.

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And we got the call came out as a white male in a truck that was seeing going in, in and out of one of the houses in, I wasn't the closest unit, but I really wasn't busy.

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And I figured it was probably going to end up in a foot pursuit or something.

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Right. And that these are gonna run or, or vehicle pursuit.

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But I responded in, I was, I showed up to back up to other deputies and that their blue and whites were there and they had this truck that they actually called them coming out of the neighborhood.

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And they had the driver out.

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They had the spotlight on them. They were, they were blocking them in from the front.

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So he couldn't get out in, I'm pulling up as, as an order him out of the truck.

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Right. And this guy gets out and he's a monster of a man.

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And this will remind me of Billy Amy, because like I told you, he's like six foot eight, but the deputies and they were younger than me.

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And I was getting ready to go into detectives, but they get them out and they start talking to them and I'll walk up and I'm listening.

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And they were like, what are you doing here?

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And he's like, what the fuck you want? What are you stopping me for?

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Was what's your probable cause for stopping them?

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Like, oh fuck, here we go. We got another lawyer.

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Right? Some might've been watching too many TV shows and what have you.

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And I'm, wasn't interrupting him.

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I was just kinda standing to the side and, and in, in case sugar turned to shit.

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Right? And like I said, this guy was a mountain of a man and he had an extended cab, red Chevrolet truck in, while they're talking to him, I kinda ease around him to his backside and he's turning it to me.

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And he's like, where the fuck you going? I said, bro, you don't need to worry about me, answer their questions.

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And they asked him for his driver's license.

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He's like, fuck you. I'm not giving you my driver's license.

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And you bitches, ain't got no reason to stop me.

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And I was like, Hmm.

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You know, it's not really going well.

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But I took my flashlight and shined in the back of the truck and it was loaded with boards.

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Okay. And now lumber is expensive.

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And if you're a doper, you can go on these job sites and steal the copper or an air conditioner unit, whatever.

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It's not bolted down or whatever you can get to take in the hood, you know, to trade for a couple of dollars or whatever, then that's what they do.

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Right? So they, I coming back up to him and they were really, really very, really getting into it.

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Now he was refusing any kind of orders.

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He refused to produce his ID.

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He was cursing them, et cetera.

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And, but I used to be the field training officer at em, you know, training uniform patrol guys.

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And I always told them, you start out low.

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Right? You can start out low w whoever it is, my low y'all mean you don't have to get out Carson and hollering and inspecting, you know, to get in into this shit or whatever.

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If, if they start out high, meaning like that, this guy was, he was being a Dick, right.

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And reason he's being a Dick.

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Cause I'm guessing he was still in the shit out of the neighborhood.

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And he didn't want the Popo tall consoling.

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But so I'm listening to them and they are, I mean, it's just, it's, it's going downhill.

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It's going downhill fast.

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And he's refusing to comply.

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Won't show us driver's license.

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You know, tell him, fuck you.

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And you know, and they started raising their voice going back.

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And I was like, Hey, you know what? Hold on.

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Just let me intervene.

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And I said, Hey man, Hey, listen, I need you to calm down.

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And he was like, you tell me to call him now, see in the us just calm down.

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I want you to step back here and talk to me.

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So what I was doing at that time y'all was the fuse and the situation the, I figured this asshole is going to jail by.

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I really didn't want to have to fight him. Right?

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So I said, just step over here towards the rear of your vehicle with me, step away from them.

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I didn't turn my back on him. Now.

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And we're probably 20 feet from the other two guys by this point.

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And I might look, Hey, ma'am deputy Overton was Sheriff's office.

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We had a call of a suspicious person that's been pulling in and outta here in a red truck for the last hour or so.

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And it's like, I don't know.

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Oh no.

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It's okay. Listen, what I'm gonna do.

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I'm gonna advise you your rights. You're not under arrest.

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I said, I want you to understand your rights before I talk to you anymore.

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And so I've asked him his rights shall written, read them to him and, or told him, so I didn't have to read them off a car or anything.

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Natural. I know him. Right.

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And read it to him. And he kind of gets quiet.

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And I said, no, look. I said, what are you doing back here?

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And he, he is a massive man.

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Okay. We're standing at the tailgate of his truck.

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And he's kind of trying to, he's standing in between the truck and me.

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I think he was trying to hide the, the boards in the back of the truck, which was too late.

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And so what are you doing back here?

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And he was, it was like, I'm just driving around.

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I'm like, nobody lives back here D this is, you know, you construction and why are you back here?

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And it was like, well, I was just riding around, looking for a home to buy and Nella his truck with an old piece of shit.

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And I'm thinking, this is a really nice neighborhood.

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It's going up probably two or $300,000 homes, et cetera.

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And I'm like, you really got to tell me that.

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I mean, you're just out here riding.

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And he was like, yeah.

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And I had asked the other two deputies to stay away.

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Right. Cause I wanted to try to talk him down and get some juice out of 'em.

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And you know, if we came to the point of throw in FIS, yeah.

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I didn't want it to reach that.

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You know, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar, but as I'm talking to him, I could see his pupils were extremely dilated and he was sweating profusely, I think.

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And he's probably on meth.

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But as, as I'm talking to him, he puts his hands in his, it was cold at night to yell at him to tell you that it was cold.

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You get one of those cold, cold nights where you could see your breath, the mist off you were falling, or whatever the fuck you want to call it off you bra.

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And he puts his hands.

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He goes, puts his hands in his, in his coat pocket.

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Or I think it was like one of those goose down vest.

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But he goes and puts his hands in his pocket.

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And immediately I tell him, I say, Hey, I need you to take your hands out of your pockets for officer's safety.

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And I haven't tried to shake them down or pat them down or anything at this point, I know it's coming.

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Right. But I also know that when I'm engaged in a verbal conversation with him, he immediately complied took his hands out of the pocket.

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Right. And we continue to talk, but I know he's gonna put his hands back in his pockets, you know, because either he's holding dope or, you know, they, they just forget, they put the hands back in the pocket.

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Well guess what?

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He did it within 30 seconds, he puts his hands back in his pocket.

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Then I told him what I always do.

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And then I said, listen, I've asked you once to take your hands out of your pockets for officer safety.

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I sound, they've got a bazooka in there or machine gun or a rocket launcher.

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You know, I said, so what I'm going to do now is ask you to turn around and put your hands on the truck.

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And I'm a pat for ski for officer's safety.

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And he kind of looked at me.

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I said, turn around, put your hands on the truck.

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You're not under arrest.

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I'm going to pat for a skew for officer safety and, and gently went to put my hands on him.

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And he started to turn around.

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He put his hands on the truck and I put my right foot in between his legs and kick his feet out just a little bit gently now in a non-aggressive manner.

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That's why when you do that, you have them a little bit off balance, right?

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Plus you're going to shake down the inside of their legs.

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So what I put my left hand up on his back and that it, you know, towards the back of his neck and I have to reach up for that.

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And I start to pat frisk him down.

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I started on his arms, his right arm pulled down and I reached over to his left arm, pulled down and I go down to the front of his chest.

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And he's remember, now he's leaning forward as arms on the thing.

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I go down to his chest and I hit his pocket.

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And when I did, I could feel what I believe through my experience to be a pipe.

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Scholastic was a straight term for it.

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And as soon as I hit that and I said, you know, I got my arm, my left arm up on his back.

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So I was still got somewhat control on him.

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But remember, he's much bigger than me and look out.

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I wasn't a small guy.

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Yeah. I'm six foot two. But back then I was like two 50.

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Okay. I mean, it was many, many years.

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I was in mouth thirties or early thirties.

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But when I hit that pipe and I grabbed it through the jacket and I said, what's this?

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And he asked me, I said, is, I said, do you have anything in your pocket?

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That's going to stick me a sound.

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I'm going to reach in your pocket and find out what it is.

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I said, do you have anything you pocket? This is going to stick me in a reasonably do that.

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Y'all is because a lot of times when you search these people, they have needles on them right now wore gloves that had Kevin LAR the Bulletproof material on the front side for that reason.

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And especially when I'm shaking people down, but, and it was cold at night, I'll say, but he didn't answer me.

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And I said, do you have anything?

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That's going to stick me in an ass, man.

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I said, listen, I'm going to reach into the pocket now.

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And I'm going to take out what's in there.

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I said, unless you want to tell me ahead of time, what it is he didn't ask me soon is I'm reaching in a start to reach him with my right hand around his front, into that goose down vest.

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As soon as I put my hand in a pocket bitch, it was on, okay.

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Now there's two times.

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You really have to be cautious.

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The first is, if you're going to pat for somebody and they're holding something, that's why you always want a little bit off balanced, leaning forward a little bit, hands out, et cetera.

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So you have somewhat control in case they decide to run or fight and cause that's, what's going to happen when you actually go to reach in and get whatever it is.

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That's illegal. If they're going to fight or flight, that's when it's going to happen.

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The second time is when you go to cuff someone.

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Now nine times out of 10, if you tell someone to turn around and put the hands behind, out behind their back.

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And that's when you got to come from up absolute guarantee, you better damn well, hold on to those cuffs.

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As tight as you can in the middle, hold mine in the middle and get them turned around.

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You hit one risk, click, click.

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That's when they are going to fight.

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And now there's nothing more dangerous than a cuff that you get one-on-one.

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And if they break that there, your hold on it.

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Then now they got a weapon on the wrist, which they can swinging if they're going to fight, right.

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I didn't even get to a point of cuffing.

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This guy, I went, my hand started to put my hand in the pocket, my left arm, still up on his back.

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He turned around and just, I mean, I, even though he was all balanced, he spun around as hard as he could with his left elbow.

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And he caught me in the face.

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Now I was able to duck my head down a little bit.

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When it, you know, it's like slow motion.

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You know, it seems like it takes 1400 years, but it happens in a split second.

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And I just knew right when we start to spin on you, it was coming.

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So I ducked my head back, but he still hit me.

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He spun all the way around and he hit me with his left elbow and knocks me a little bit sideways.

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And then I'm coming back up and get back up.

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He wasn't running. Okay.

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He wanted to fight and I'm coming back up and it started raining down, blows on me.

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I'm telling him I was like, hit me in my heads and as hard as he could.

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And he was a big dude and it hurt, but I, I ducked down.

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And when he started swinging on me, I swung up with the hardest uppercut that I could and hit him as hard as I could underneath his jaw, hit him underneath his jaw, as hard as I could.

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Didn't phase this bitch.

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And then he starts raining down, blows on me and it's own it's it's a 14 1 0 8 resistant officer.

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Right. And he's fighting me. He's we're now we're trading punches, but we're in, I stayed in as close as I could to him.

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Cause he's such a big guy that, I mean, he's trying to hammer fist down on me, but I'm staying in close.

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I can, I'm punching up. And the other deputies didn't even see it.

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Boom, boom, boom, boom. And then the guy put me in a damn headlock.

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And when he did all I could do is grab his lower left leg in and pull it out from underneath them.

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right? Fighting three of us on this one guy.

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And we, I swear to God would fall for somebody who was able to say 1 0 8 on one of the other deputies, which on the radio, which means sent back up.

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And then immediately when the radio room, the dispatches here that they 10 33, the net, which means I'll hold the net for, except for emergency traffic.

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Cops need assistance.

28:04

Right? They're in a fight in y'all we follow and we followed.

28:09

And it's just one of those things where you're writing down blows.

28:12

At some point, the wasn't me, one of the other deputies was able to get their freeze plus P out and spray him.

28:20

Well, the problem with that is when you spray him and you're rolling around on the ground, everybody gets sprayed, right?

28:27

So in, I told you about freeze plus P before, when you first get sprayed with it, you're like, oh, it's not that bad for about a minute, minute and a half.

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And then it automatically causes your eyes to swell shut.

28:43

And it gives you that, that I'm dying breath.

28:46

I'm like you're drowning, right?

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If you will. And so now I've followed into so many times, et cetera.

28:56

I knew how to try to control my breathing and not freak out.

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But I'm sprayed with freeze.

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Plus P you know, was being choked out and the adrenaline is pumping and we're fighting.

29:09

But guess what? We couldn't get them under control.

29:11

I mean, this was one big strong monster, a man in, in all that shit they teach in the academy about straight on bar, take downs and soft, empty hand control and Palm heel strikes and all that bullshit.

29:27

It goes out the window. Y'all when you're in a fist fight, it's a fist fight.

29:32

You punch me.

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I'm going to punch you back.

29:35

I know you've heard me tell you this before, but it's just the way it is.

29:39

Right? And so I hear sirens coming in distance, and we are talking about blows are being rained in every direction.

29:46

And I think at one point kicked, well, I know he did.

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He kicked one of the deputies and in the shin.

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And he was like leaning over towards his hip heart.

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I think it's the same one that sprayed kicked him in his shin.

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He went down, he's out, you know, he he's down on the ground holding his leg, but I could hear the sirens coming.

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The Calvary's coming to save today.

30:07

And, but this fight, might've been four minutes.

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Maybe in now, we've got spray, serious blows being thrown, elbows, knees, fist punches in the face and everywhere else in nothing.

30:27

I mean, this guy's getting the best of all of us, but the long story short, you know, the other sirens are coming in and they get there.

30:36

And I guess it looked like the Rodney king thing from back in the day, in the end, by the time everybody got there and this dude was still fighting, even though he had been sprayed and he couldn't see these blindly fighting, but he was so cock strong that, you know, I don't know how many it took, probably like six guys, six deputies on him before we were able to pin him down.

30:59

And somebody was able to get a hand behind his back and get that cuff on him.

31:04

And they were able to force around and get the other couple of, one of them in Munster.

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The man, the whole thing, probably the whole fight.

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And in getting him cuffed, et cetera, probably took, I don't know, six minutes from beginning of the end, maybe eight minutes, but it seemed like 18 freaking years.

31:27

Right? So finally get him down or they get the cuffs on him and he's face down somebody went and got some shackles.

31:37

And we cause he was still trying to kick some sitting on, not to George Flores, sitting on him.

31:43

We weren't sitting on his neck or whatever.

31:44

sitting on Dick and I, the, I could couldn't barely see because of the freeze plus P and, and my adrenaline was ripping so hard and somebody went and got some shackles and shackled his feet.

31:58

And we, we hogtied him.

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Right. And he used another pair or they hogtied him.

32:03

We used to know the pair of handcuffs to bring his legs back up.

32:06

Once they got the shackles was him up towards his back and then extended his arms down with the cuffs down.

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It took another pair of cuffs and ran them from the cuffs to the shackles.

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So now he's hogtied this dude can't be, and look by the way, he's like 300 some pounds.

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I, but not fat. It's just a big monster of a man.

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down. And then all of a sudden I was sitting back on the ground and I just realized my hand is just fucking killing me my right hand.

33:10

I was like, holy shit, man.

33:12

And I mean, I'm talking about bad pain.

33:14

I knew I had messed something up.

33:17

Right. And then I reached up with my left hand and my mouth was bleeding.

33:22

I guess it was an elbow or one of his punches or whatever.

33:25

He busted my tooth had gone into my lip on my right-hand side of my face.

33:31

So I'm bleeding.

33:33

But I looked down at my hand, in my finger, the ring finger on my right hand was bent.

33:42

Like, and then not natural position.

33:45

I mean, it was just fucking bad.

33:47

The like bent backwards at a 45 degree angle.

33:52

And I'm like, holy shit.

33:55

Then I started shaking and stuff.

33:57

I mean, I knew I was hurt. I knew my hand was hurt pretty bad.

34:00

And now look, I've had broken bones and in all kinds of shit.

34:04

Right, right. I had fractured skull before and all of this stuff, but this was, you know, I'm sitting on the ground and I'm looking and I'm bleeding in and about, I'm looking into my finger and I started shaking and it almost got nauseous, I guess when the, the free flow SPI and the adrenaline and everything else.

34:20

But one of the guys came up and was like, Hey, you know, are you all right?

34:24

And I'm like, no, ma'am, I'm a, my aunt is fucked.

34:26

And, and the supervisor arrived by that time.

34:29

And it was Mike Arwin.

34:31

I think he flies a helicopter staff for the Sheriff's office, but, and he was a great supervisor, great guy.

34:37

And, and, you know, didn't take any shit.

34:41

And it always took care of his people.

34:42

And he said it, he said, what do you let me look at you?

34:45

And he looked at my face and he said, man, you might need some stitches in your mouth.

34:50

And I said, that's not the problem. Ross, look at my hand.

34:52

And I held it up. My hand was shaking and it was like, oh, we got to get you to the hospital.

34:57

Right. And he said, your shit is definitely broken in.

35:01

So they called a Kadian.

35:04

So some of the other guy, oh, for the morning I kicked in the leg to the, I mean he couldn't even walk.

35:11

And so they called for Caden and I told him, I guess, I'm not riding a fucking ambulance.

35:15

I said, you're going to have to go to the hospital regardless.

35:18

I said, you know, let me just drive with chief.

35:22

And, and he was like, you can, that's fine.

35:24

You can ride with me. And so they got the other guy loaded up for his leg and we went to the hospital was closest one at that time was right across the bridge in east Baton Rouge parish.

35:37

My shit. I forget the name of it or something.

35:41

But the it's changed now.

35:43

I think. So we go to that emergency room and get out and they bring the other deputy in for his leg and they have to get taken for an x-ray.

35:51

And then a doctor came and looked at me and looked in my mouth and you know, they put some goals on it, et cetera.

36:00

But I shattered my, and he said, oh yeah.

36:03

He said, you definitely, if it's not broken, then it's definitely dislocated.

36:08

Let's go in and get you an x-ray.

36:11

So the x-ray tech came, Mike had called the sheriff and everything and the x-ray tech came and then they put me in.

36:19

I remember them putting, you know, when you got an x-ray room, it puts your hand on that plate to, to do the thing.

36:24

Remember my hand is shaking shake.

36:26

I mean, it wasn't even adrenaline at this point, I think it was from the pain.

36:31

I'm going to say something to fucking heart. And I've had a lot of broken shit and it hurt bad, but they took the x-ray of it.

36:37

And then they will meet a room.

36:38

And the doctor came in and Mike came in with them and the doc said, Hey, look, your shit is not broken.

36:46

He said, but it's definitely dislocated.

36:48

He said, the problem is, is we've got to put it back into place that he said, and, and we do, you want us to put you to sleep, to do it?

36:59

And I'm like, fuck, no, I don't want to go on there for anything.

37:04

Yeah. I said, just do what you got to do. And he said, no, no.

37:06

He said, there's no way. He said, there's no way we're going to do without something.

37:10

He said, let me give you appeal.

37:12

That will make you where you, at least you won't remember it.

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So I remember Mike being there in the room with me and they gave him the appeal and it took like 20 minutes or a loopy pill.

40:04

I don't know what it was y'all but Mike was there with me in, I remember him doing it, but I don't remember the pain of it.

40:10

I remember him popping or I've been in my finger back into place and you know, screaming out, et cetera, but they fixed it and taped it up.

40:20

And what have you.

40:22

But evidently they gave me whatever appeal was, was a loopy, loopy pill.

40:28

I don't remember what all I said, but Mike actually drove me home.

40:33

Somebody else had gotten, gotten my unit from the scene.

40:36

Mike drove me home in the stuff was making me sleepy and all that.

40:41

But he picked on me for a long time afterwards.

40:46

He said, brah, you had no idea.

40:48

The crazy, funny shit you were saying when you're all fucked up from that peel.

40:53

But anyway, the, the other deputy was, was REI.

40:57

I think his shin was Barry's is really bad.

41:00

So bad guy goes to jail.

41:04

We charged him with injury, an office officers turn out the material.

41:10

The, I think it was the next day the detectives had had the contractor came in and a bunch of those houses had been robbed of stuff.

41:21

And they were able to identify the boards that's coming from the site.

41:26

And when they searched the guy, after he was down, he had meth on him and the meth pipe.

41:32

So he went to jail on a bunch of felony charges.

41:35

Then they added more charges.

41:36

The problem cause where they stuck a night for him burglarizing the construction sites.

41:42

And I remember going to the probable cause hearing and having to testify the free shot, right.

41:51

That he gets to get out, having to testify about the fight.

41:54

And I'm read the public defenders when he was questioning me about it.

42:00

He was like, well, you, you post my client in the face.

42:03

And I said, hope I did.

42:06

You know? And he said, what are you being?

42:08

I said, hell, he was, you know, trying to kill me.

42:10

And he said, well, you had to go to the hospital.

42:12

Your hand was hurting. I said, that's right.

42:14

He said, so you punched my client. I said, yeah, yeah, I'll punch them in as hard as I could.

42:18

And probably as many times I could motherfucker, I didn't say motherfucker in the courtroom.

42:23

I said, and, and I would do it again.

42:25

He said, well, you don't, you think that you shouldn't have been so aggressive with my client.

42:30

I said, Hey, he turned and spun on me.

42:34

He hit me with his elbow.

42:36

He started raining down, blows upon me.

42:39

Did I punched him? Yeah. I punched him, punched him as hard as I could.

42:43

And it didn't do anything I said, and I would do it again today.

42:47

Anyway, long story short, he ended up taking a plea and he had to pay restitution.

42:54

He had to pay the medical bills, recitations for the deputies involved.

42:59

And he got some time.

43:00

And I think he, the judge gave him like two years the plea.

43:05

They pled it down to like two years.

43:07

I mean, proven that he actually stole the stuff and construct site, even though he had boards in the back of the truck.

43:12

I mean, you can't prove that shit down a reasonable doubt that you would definitely prove by my injuries and my busted face.

43:21

Yeah. I forgot. They'd take pictures of that.

43:23

Detective came out to the hospital when I was all looped up on the pills or whatever it was, they gave me and took pictures of my facial injuries and my hand and all that.

43:36

And of course we had the doctor's report, et cetera.

43:38

So we would've slammed him on that.

43:40

No doubt. And the resisting, the injury and an officer, actually it was, it was second degree battery because anytime you get into an altercation, if somebody hits somebody and it causes such pain that the, I think the law reads it extreme physical pain.

44:04

If you're on the receiving end of it, and you have extinct extreme physical pain, you lose consciousness or get disfigurement, or you have to seek medical attention.

44:17

It makes it a second degree battery.

44:19

We all, that's the same thing.

44:21

As, as attempted murder in the state of Louisiana.

44:23

Now, again, battery in the rest of the United States is the battery and assault are, are different than they are in Louisiana.

44:33

It's swapped in Louisiana.

44:35

Battery's down one, it touching in the rest of the United States.

44:39

A battery is the threat.

44:43

Okay. In Louisiana, an assault is actually the verbal threat.

44:48

Or if you pick up a gun, you point at somebody and you don't shoot them.

44:52

That's a, that's an aggravated assault cause you're using a firearm, but there's different levels of it, but it's swapped everywhere else.

44:58

If you're in Texas or California, you hear me say secondary battery.

45:02

It's not a threat.

45:07

Okay. It was second degree batter, which is same thing.

45:09

There was no attempted murder charge on the books say that he had serious shit.

45:16

I think he took two years and they let him out on one.

45:20

No, it must've been lower than two years.

45:22

Whatever it was after two years, I got a call from the parole officer.

45:27

It's a Haiti.

45:29

You know, you mind if this guy gets out, he's been, he's gone through drug rehab programs in the prison and blah, blah, blah.

45:37

And yeah, he had had several rests before, but nothing, none of the crime of violence saved.

45:43

He was just a dope head thief.

45:44

And that's all.

45:47

No, I don't mind if he gets out of the same thing. Like when my vehicle got broken into my neighborhood, when I was a detective and I found the guy that did it and they called me out of respect and said, Hey, the amount of he gets pro, he'd been in like five or six years.

46:01

I'm like, no, tell him if he ever comes around me, he's going to spring a leak.

46:04

Right. Cause I'm gonna kill him and tell him the same thing.

46:07

I said, you just, I mean, I hope he straight.

46:09

I hope he goes on and lives a great and productive life.

46:12

But if he ever fucking comes near me again, I'm not going to fight him.

46:16

I'm not going to hurt my hand and I'm not going to get my mouth busted open.

46:20

I'm going to put a bullet in him. So anyway, I was thinking about that.

46:24

Y'all I noticed a little bit of a different story, but it popped in my mind when I saw Billy the other night, he was dressed up like rip from yellow stain.

46:33

And I thought, I'm first thing I thought I'm gonna, cause he's like six foot eight and just, just a massive hug of a man.

46:41

And the first thing I thought of was that big son of a bitch we had to fight on.

46:46

And actually that's the only time I think that's the only time in my career that I ever had to go to the emergency room for my injuries.

46:59

Right. So, but anyway, it yield up was no big deal after that.

47:03

I was sore for a little while and what have you, but my face was, you know, a little fucked up that, but it is what it is.

47:11

So anyway, I love and appreciate y'all no, this was a little bit different.

47:16

I was sitting down this morning, recording a commercial and I said, you know what, let me tell this store while I'm thinking of it.

47:22

So I hope y'all enjoyed it. Thank you for being a patron members and convicts and hype patron members.

47:28

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47:37

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48:02

Y'all it's, it's like the crew page on steroids and it has the, it has all these different forums and in group chats and true crime stuff that gets posted every day.

48:14

This day in history, all this crazy stuff, you get points and or stars or whatever the call and for this council, March and stuff like that.

48:22

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48:30

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48:37

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48:43

If you don't want to do that, that's fine too.

48:45

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48:48

There will be some video stuff on there that, and then some more stuff on there that may not be on the Patrion, Facebook only page, et cetera.

48:59

I'm trying to get away from the Facebook part because we get censored every day.

49:03

And nobody's since in the real-life real crime community app, except for what he got over 10.

49:07

And y'all know, you have to be a real asshole for me to say something to you, right?

49:12

Or just, you know, a troll, it gets in there and wants to start shit with good people.

49:17

And I don't put up with that, but check it out.

49:20

I appreciate y'all love you so much.

49:23

And in this show would not run without y'all and we will be doing more stuff, holiday seasons coming up, I'm gonna do some videos.

49:33

The I y'all had done the bull and peanut video.

49:36

I bullet peanuts for three fucking days.

49:39

Cause it takes that long, right?

49:41

Three different, big batches.

49:43

If I had all the new camera, the video set up and had recorded it all while it came to record in the studio and I put that chip in because it had, it still had more hours on it, right to record on.

49:58

And I put that chip in and it's said, you want to calibrate this chip or something like that.

50:04

And I hit the wrong button, never daily hour race at all, but I'm a fraud.

50:09

My turkeys, we're going to do that live.

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And I'm going to do it for patriotic and convicts.

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And, and so w where you can, you know, I'm going to drink beer, I'm a fraud of the turkeys.

50:20

I'm going to get out the Jackie syringe and show you how to inject the Turkey and get it all prepped and everything else.

50:27

And we have all this new high dollar equipment and stuff, which we wouldn't have if it wasn't for y'all support.

50:32

So I'm going to try to do more.

50:34

Okay. And in the stating, cause we got a lot more stuff coming for.

50:39

Y'all not just episodes, but a lot more stuff that we are actively planning to set up for convicts and patron.

50:46

But again, I love y'all.

50:48

I appreciate you. If wouldn't have a show, if it wasn't for y'all course, we've grown phenomenally, you know, and in, but it's, we wouldn't have been able to start concentrating in, on doing things like building the app and the live shows and all this different stuff.

51:09

If it wasn't for your contribution and I'll never ever be able to tell you how much I appreciate it and hope you enjoy this episode.

51:16

I know it was different, pretty much just me rambling, but I love y'all.

51:20

I appreciate you do y'all don't forget about the crew bash the VIP.

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I think they're almost sold out, but that's going to be an all-night deal.

51:28

Friday night, February 4th in downtown Baton Rouge.

51:31

The crew bash itself is on my birthday, February 5th.

51:36

And we've got people coming in from all over the United States.

51:39

I know y'all a lot of y'all patrons and convicts that are coming.

51:43

So, but anyway, that's, if he hadn't got you tickets, I think you get discounts for whatever.

51:48

I don't know all the stuff on the patron and convict benefits, but if you haven't got your tickets, get them because especially if you want to go to the VIP event and there's a handful of that, I just laugh.

51:59

But anyway, I sit and I'm Woody Overson, the host of real life, real crime, the podcast.

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As y'all know, Woody is raw and unscripted 199 the Patreon Canva bonus episodes have a tendency to be a little more raw and a little more off the wall, I guess, you could say as the normal episodes 199 you guys get to hear them unedited just like he he says it. And of course, you get your regular episodes at least one day early. Sometimes you get them several days early. And from time to time, like maybe once every year or so, we will release one to the public and replace it with another one. So this what you're about to hear is the November Patreon Canva bonus episode, and Patreon and convict members. Guess what? You're getting a brand new, unheard bonus episode that will be available probably by the time you hear this this episode that you are hearing right now dropped at midnight 199 I would wager that you will have your new episode by probably lunch. And that's it. You guys enjoy the episode. If you're considering being a Patreon or Convict Remember, it's absolutely what makes real life REALCRIME sustainable and possible. These bonus episodes are just one of many of the perks. So thank you guys so much for your support. And without further ado, this is a Patreon and Canva bonus episode Hello EveryPlate, and welcome to this bonus Patreon and Canva episode of real life, real crime, the podcast. It's been a while, y'all since I've done one of these and I was thinking about story Wow. Some stories actually that happened when I was working the street the other night, we went to a block party and up and Watson and I got to see some of my cop buddies that I hadn't seen in years and years and years like Billy Amy, and what a mountain of a man, that dude is make him real life, real crime security, some stories actually that happened when was walking the street. The of the night, we went to a a black party up in Watson. And I got to see some of my cop buddies that I hadn't seen in years and years and years like Billy 199. what a mountain of a man that dude is, make him a a new life real crime security chief. I mean, he must be like six foot eight forgot how big he was. He's still a cop with the battery city police department, but we used to be on the SRT team together. of course, we worked the street together, etcetera, and in the appropriate twenty one years. And we got to laugh then Talkspace about some different things. But I'll tell you 199 night what happened. I was on uniform patrol, and for some reason, I was on the west side of the parish. Which I've told y'all in the past. The pair just separated geographically east and west for long for some purposes. And it was probably, like, two thirty, three o'clock in the morning. You know, the the bad guy hours, if you will. There's nobody on the road. At that time of the night, except for cops and bad guys, period. And, you know, bad guys or girls being drunk or or you know, just drug dealers or whatever. So you gotta call 199 that's y'all as cow terns for suspicious person. Right? At this new development of neighborhood that was going up nobody was living in there yet or just but the roads were black top. They had the lots and they were building some homes And so generally, on these type of situations, that's where people go and steal the materials that the contractors have on job sites. And we got a the call came out as a white male in a truck that was seen going in, in and out of one of the houses. And I wasn't the closest unit but I yeah. I really wasn't busy, and I figured it was probably gonna end up in foot pursuit or something. Right? And that these are gonna run or or a vehicle pursuit. But I responded 199 I was I showed up to back up to other deputies and that their blue and white were there and they had this truck that they actually called them coming out of the neighborhood, and they had the driver out. They had the spotlight on they had the spotlight on them. They were, they were blocking them in from the They were they were blocking him in from the front so he couldn't get out. And I'm pulling up as as an order amount of the truck. Right? And this guy gets out and he's a monster of a man this will remind me of Billy Yang because like I told you he's like six foot eight but the deputies and they were younger than me I I was getting ready to go into the Texas, but they get them out and they start talking to heathier I'll walk up and I'm listening. they were like, you know, what are you doing here? And he's like, what the fuck you want? What are you stopping me What are you stopping me for? What's what's your probable cause for stopping them? Like, oh, fuck. Here we go. We gotta another lawyer. Right? Somebody had been watching too many TV shows and what have you. And time I wouldn't interrupting him. I was just kinda, you know, standing to the side and in in case sugar time to shit. Right? And like I said, this guy was a mountain of a Canva he had an extended cab. Red Chevrolet truck. And while they're talking to him, I kinda ease around him to to his backside, he's turning it to me. He was like, we're gonna fuck you going. I said, brought you. You don't need to worry about me. Answer their questions. And they asked the first driver's license, like, fuck you. I might giving you my driver's license bitches ain't got no reason to stop me. And I was like, you know, it's not really going well. But I took my flash lightness, shining in the back of the truck, and it was loaded with boards. Okay? And now lumber's expensive. And if you're a doper, you go on these job sites and steal the copper or an air conditioning unit, whatever. It's not bolted down or whatever you can get to take in the hood, you know, to trade for a couple dollars or whatever, then that's what they do. Right? So they I'm coming back up to him 199 they were really, really verbally getting into it now. He was refusing any kind of orders. He 50, produces ID, he was cursing them, etcetera. And but I used to be the field training officer, and 199, you know, training uniform patrol guys. And always told them, you start out low. Right? You can start out low with whoever it is. By low y'all mean, you don't have to get out 199 then holler and and and expecting, you know, to get in into this shit or whatever. If if they start out high, meaning like the this this guy was, being a dick. Right? And reason he's being a dick, because I'm guessing he was still in the shit out of the neighborhood. And he didn't want the popo Italian to him. But so I'm listening to him 199 they are I mean, it's just it's it's going down. He always going down. He'll fast. And and he's refusing to comply. Won't show us. Driver's license, you know, tell them to fuck you and you know, and they started raising their voice going back. And I was like, you know what? Hold on. Just let me intervene 199 and then I say, hey, man. Hey, listen. I need you to calm down he's like, you tell me to calm down, 199, know, I said, just calm down. I want you to step back here and talk to me. So what I was doing at that time y'all was defusing the situation. The I figured this assholes going to jail, by. I really didn't want to have to fight I really didn't wanna have to fight him. Right? So I said, just step over here towards the rear. You'd be happy with me. Step away from them. Let's restart. Let's hit reset. And he walked back with me. I didn't turn my back on me now. I'm I'm Canva at a forty five degree angle as he's walking with me in case he just decided to put hands on me or 199 or whatever. 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He's Canva trying to he's standing between the truck and me. I think he was trying to hide the the boards in the back of the truck. Which was too late. And so what are you doing back here? And it was it was, like, I'm just driving around. I'm, like, nobody lives back here, dude. This is, you know, new construction. And why are you back here? And it was like, well, I was just riding around, looking for a home to buy and Nella his truck with an old piece of it was like, well, I was just riding around looking for a home to buy, and and now his truck with an old piece of shit. And I'm thinking this is a really nice neighborhood that's going up probably two or three hundred thousand dollars homes, etcetera. And I'm like, you're really gonna tell me that. I mean, you just out of your riding and things like, yeah. And I had asked other two deputies to stay away. Right? Because I wanted to try to Talkspace down and and get some juice out of him and you know, if it came to the point of throwing fist, know, I didn't want to to to reach that. You know, I catch more flies with honey than vinegar. But as I'm talking to him, I could see his pupils were extremely dilated, and he was sweating profusely. I think, and he's probably on meth. But as I'm as I'm talking to him, he puts his hands in his it was cold that night to yell and tell you that it was cold. You could one of those cold cold. Nice where you could see your breath, the mist, off of your fog, or whatever the fuck you wanna call it, off of your breath. And he puts his hands. He goes puts his hands in his in his coat pocket. Or yeah. I think it's like a one of those goose down vest. But it goes and puts his hands in his pocket and immediately. I tell him, I say, hey. I need to take your hands out of your pocket for office of safety. And I haven't, you know, tried to shake him down or pat him down or anything at this point. I know it's coming right, but I also know that when I'm engaged in in a verbal conversation with him, he he immediately complied and took hands out of the pocket. Right? And we will continue to talk. But I know he's gonna put his hands back in his pocket. You know? Because either he's holding dope or, you know, they they just forget. They put the hands back in the pocket. Well, guess what? He did it within thirty seconds. He puts his hands back in his pocket, and I told him what I always do. And then as to listen, I've asked you once to take your hands out of your pockets for officer safety. I said, I don't know if you got a Bazooka in there or a machine gun or a rocket launcher or, you know, I said, so what I'm gonna do now? It's asked you to turn around, put your hands on the truck, and I'm a Pat for a skew for officer's safety. And he kinda looked at me. I said, look, this turn around. Put your hands on the truck. You're not under arrest. I'm gonna pat for rescue for officer safety. And and I gently went to put my hands on 199, and he started to turn around. He put his hands on the truck. And I put my right foot in between his legs. I kick his feet out just a little bit gently now y'all in a nonaggressive manner. That's way when you do that, you have them a little bit off balance. Right? Plus, you're gonna shake down the inside of their legs. So what I put my left hand. Up on his back and then it, you know, towards the back of his neck have to reach up for that. And I start to pat Frisk him down. I start on his arms, his right arm, pulled down, and I reach over to his left arm, pulled down. 199 I go down the the front of his chest 199 he's remember now he's leaning forward as arms on on the thing I go down his chest and I hit his pocket And when I did, I could feel what I believed in my experience to be a pipe, a glass stick, was a straight time for it. And as soon as I hit that and I said 199, you know, I got my arm my left arm up on his back, so I still got a somewhat control on him. But remember he's much bigger than me. And look, I I wasn't a small guy. Yeah. I'm six foot two. But back then I was like two but back then I was, like, two fifty. Okay? I mean, it was many many years I was in my thirties or early thirties. But when I hit that pipe, when I grabbed it through the jacket I said, what's this? In the enhancement, I said, is I said, do you have anything in your pocket that's gonna stick me? I said, I'm I'm gonna reach your pocket and find out what it is. I said, do you have anything in your pocket that's gonna stick me? And a reason we do that y'all is because a lot of times when you search these people, they have needles on them. Right? Now I wore gloves that had kevlar, the bulletproof material on the front side for that reason. And especially when I'm shaking people down, but and it was cold that night also, but and he didn't answer me. And I said, do you have anything that's going to stick me? In the in the express and listen, I'm gonna reach it in the pocket and I'm gonna take out what's in there. I I you know, I said, unless you tell me ahead of time what it is. He didn't answer me. Soon as I'm reaching in I start to reach him with my right hand around his front into that goose down vest. Soon as I put my hand in the pocket, bitch of his own. Okay? Now there's two times you really have to be cautious. The first is if you're gonna pat for somebody and they're holding something, that that's why you always want them a little bit off balance leaning forward, a little bit, hands out, etcetera. So you have somewhat control in case they decide to run or or fight. And because that's what's gonna happen. When you actually go to reach in and and get whatever it is, it's illegal if they're gonna fight or fight. That's when it's gonna happen. The second time is when you go to cuff someone. Now, nine times out of ten. If you tell someone to turn around, put the hands behind their behind their back, then that's when you got to cuff them up. Absolute guarantee you You better damn well. Hold on to those cuffs as tight as you can in the middle. Hold on in the middle 199 get them turned around and hit one risk. Click click. That's when they're going to fight. And now there's nothing more dangerous than a cuff. But you get one on and if they break that they're your hold on it, then now they got a weapon on the wrist, which they're gonna swing if they're gonna fight. Right? I didn't get to the point of cuffing this guy. I went my hand start to put my hand in the pocket, my left arm, still up on his back. He turned around and just I mean, I even though he was off balance, he spun around as hard as he could with his left elbow 199 it caught me in face. 199 I was able to duck my head down little bit, but I 199 know, it's like slow motion y'all. It like it takes fourteen hundred years, but it happens in a split second. And I just knew. Right when he started to spin, I knew it was coming, so I dug my head to his back, but he still hit me. And spun all the way around he hit me with this left elbow 199 knocks me a little bit sideways 199 then I'm coming back up and get get back up, but he wasn't running. Okay? He wanted to fight. And I'm coming back up that that started raining down blows on me. I'm telling like, hit me in my heathier as hard as he could, and he was a big dude and it hurt. But III ducked down, and when he started swinging on me, I I swung up with the hardest uppercut that I could and hit him as hard as I could underneath his jaw, hit him underneath his jaw, as hard as I could, didn't phase this bitch, and then he starts raining down blows on me. And It's on. It's a it's a fourteen 108 resistant officer. Right? And he's fighting me. He's he's we're now we're trading punches, but we're in I stayed in as close as I could to him because he's such a big guy that I mean, he's trying to hammer fist down on me. But I'm staying in as close as I can. I'm punching up 199 the other deputies didn't even see it. Hey, y'all the last couple of years, everything seemed to change right from how we work, how we learn even a person relationships, certainly our business y'all. In the last couple of years, everything seemed to change. Right? From how we work, how we learn, even our personal relationships, certainly our business relationships. 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They make me a better person and get a hundred dollars And make me a better person 199 get a hundred dollars off when you use the code real crime at talkspace dot com. they were standing up at the front of the fucking truck talking to each other, facing each were standing up at the front of the fucking truck, talking to each other, facing each other. And I'm, like, one away, 108, and then we're we're trained punches. Boom. Boom. Boom. And then the guy put me in a damn headlock. And when he did, all I could do is grab his lower left leg and and pull it out from underneath him so then we go to the ground. And at some point, the other two deputies come up. Now, here's the deal. The I don't care what you see on cop shows or whatever. It is hard as fuck to handcuff somebody if they are resisting. Now, this guy, I was nowhere near. To getting them cuffed. But the other two deputies come up at at some point and it seemed like I've been down there fighting. We're rolling on the ground. He's got me in the headlock I mean, I hit him in nuts. I hit him everywhere that I could. Basically, get my ass kicked, but not that bad. But I'm hitting him with everything that I have. 199 and close quarter combat. And at some point, the other deputies, I feel them jump in. Now, they're trying to get them off of me. And he's trying to choke me out and kill me in the in the heathier, and they were able to break the the armhole. Well, guess what? There's four of us on the ground now. Right? Fighting. Three of us on this one guy and we I swear to God would fall for somebody was able to say 108 on one of the other deputies, which on the radio, which means sent back up. And then immediately, when the radio ran the dispatches hear that, they ten thirty three, the net, which means I hold the net except for war emergency traffic. Cops need assistance. Right? They're in a fight. And y'all we Feals, and we fault. And it's just one of those things where you're raining down blows at some point. The it wasn't me. One of the other deputies was able to get their freeze plus pee out and spray them, well, the problem of that is when you spray him and you're rolling around the ground, everybody gets sprayed. Right? So 199 a minute, I told you about freeze plus 50 before. When you first get sprayed with it, you're like, oh, it's not that bad for about a minute, a minute and a half, and then it automatically causes your eyes to swell shut, and it gives you that that undying heathier, like you're drowning, right, if you will. And so now that I've fallen in so many times, etcetera, I knew how to try to control my breathing and not freak out. But I'm I'm sprayed with freeze plus 50. You know, was being choked And the adrenaline's pumping and we're fighting against what? We couldn't get him under control. I mean, this was one big strong monster a man in in all that shit they teach in academy about straight on bar take downs 199 soft empty hand control 199 palm Feals strikes all that bullshit. It goes out the window. Yeah. When you have this fight, it's a fist fight. You punch me, I'm gonna punch you back. I know you've heard me tell you this before, but it's just the way it is. Right? And so I could hear sirens coming in a distance, and we were I mean, I'm talking about blows being rained in every direction. And I think of one point, kicked Well, I know he did. He kicked one of the deputies 199 in the shen, and who was, like, leaning over towards his hip part. I think it's the same one that sprayed. Kicked him in his chin. He went down. He's out. You know, he he's down on the ground, holding his leg. But I could hear the sirens coming. The cow worries coming to save the day and but this fight might have been four minutes. Maybe. And now we've got spray, serious blows, being thrown, elbows, knees, fist punches in the face and everywhere else and nothing. I mean, this guy is getting the best of all of us, but the long story short, you know, this other sirens are coming in and they get there. And I guess it'll look like the Ride and King thing from back in the day in the end by the time everybody got there. This dude was still fighting even though he had been sprayed 199 he couldn't see. He's blindly fighting, but he was so cock strong that, you know, I don't know how many had took probably, like, six guys, six deputies on him before. We're able to pin him down. And somebody was able to get a hand behind his back and get that couple one and then they were able to force surround and get the other couple 199 monster per man. The whole thing probably the whole fight and and getting him cuffed, etcetera, probably took. I don't know. Six minutes from beginning end, maybe eight minutes, but it seemed like eighteen freaking years. Right? So finally get him down or they get the cuffs on him he's faced down. Somebody went and got some shackles and we because he was still trying to kick and so sitting on him not to George Floyd. He sitting on him or sitting on his neck or whatever. I wouldn't sitting on deck. The I could couldn't barely see because of the freeze plus pee and and my drones ripping so hard. And somebody wouldn't got some shackles 199 shackles his feet, and we we hold tight him. Right? We used another pair or they hold tight him. Used to know the pair of hand cusp of bringing his legs back up once they got the chakras on him up towards his back. And then extended his arms down, put the cuffs down, and took another pair of cuffs ran them from the cuffs to the shackles. So now he's hog tied. This dude can't move. And look, by the way, he's like three hundred some pounds. Alright? But not fat. It's just a big monster of man. Great. Call it in, 259, ten fifteen 199 white male, 264 the net, which means you can let traffic go. Y'all, what what happens in a situation like that when your adrenaline is pumping so hard 199, you know, you're going and you go for however long, well, you don't realize most of the time, you don't realize any injuries that you have until after the adrenaline starts to calm down. And then I was I was sitting back on the ground, and I just realized my hand is just fucking killing me. My my right hand, I was like, holy shit 199. you know, I mean, I'm telling my bad pain. I knew I had messed something you. I I had messed something up. Right? And then I reached out my left hand and my mouth was bleeding. guess it was an elbow or one of his punches or whatever he busted my my tooth. Had gone into my lip on my right hand side of my face. So I'm bleeding, but that I looked down at my hand 199 my finger the my ring finger on my right hand was bent like in a not natural position. I mean, it's just fucking bad. The like bent backwards at a forty five degree angle. And I'm like, holy shit, then I started shaking 199 and stuff. I mean, I knew I was hurt. I knew my hands hurt pretty bad. And now look, I've had broken bones 199 and all kinds of shit. Right? Right? I had fractured skull before and all this stuff, but this was I'm sitting on the ground and I'm looking and I'm I'm bleeding 199 I'm I'm looking into my finger I started shaking 199 almost got nauseous, I guess, from the the free plus p and the adrenaline and everything else. But one of my guys came up and was like, hey, you know, Are you alright? I'm like, no, ma'am. My man is fucked, and and the supervisor arrived by that time, 199 it was Mike Irwin. I think he flies the helicopters down for the sheriff's office. But and he was a great supervisor, a great guy. And and, you know, didn't take taking any shit, and I always took care of his people. And he said he said, well, let me look at 199. And he looked at my face, and he said, man, you might need some stitches. In your mouth, but that's that's not the problem, Ross. I look at my hand, and held it up. My hand was shaking. And and it like, oh, fuck. We gotta get you to the hospital. Right? And he said to you, shit, it's definitely broken. And so they had called Acadian. Some some of the other guy, oh, for the the one that kicked in the leg to I mean, he couldn't even walk and said he called for Kadant, and I told Michael, I'm not riding at fucking ambulance. I said, you gonna have to go to hospital regardless. I said, yeah. Let me just strive with chief. And and he was like, you can that's fine. You can ride with me. And and so so I got the other guy loaded up for his leg. 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But, anyway, the the other deputy was was alright. I think his shim was burrows really bad. So bad guy goes to jail, which are some with the injury of an officer. Officers turned out the material. The I think it was the next day the detectives had had the the contractor came in a bunch of those houses had been robbed of of stuff. And they were able to identify the boards that's coming from the site. And when they searched the guy after he was down, he had meth on him in the meth pipe. Say he was a jail 199 a bunch of felony charges, then they added more charges. The probable cause where they stuck in the eye for him, murderizing the the construction sites. And I remember going to the probable cause hearing and having to testify the free shot. Right? That he gets to get out, having testify about the the fight. And I'm the public defender. When he was questioning me about it, he was like, well, then you you punched my client in face. And I said, I I hope I did. Yeah. And he said, what are you being? I said, hell, he was, you know, trying to kill me. And and he said, well, you had to go to the hospital. Your hand was I said, that's right. He said, so you punched my He said, so you punched my client. I said, yeah. Yeah. I punched him as hard as I could, and and probably as many times as I could, motherfucker. I didn't say motherfucker in courtroom. I said, and and I would do it again. And he said, well, you don't you think that you shouldn't have been so impressed from my client? I said, hey, he turned and spun on me. He hit me with his elbow. He started raining down blows upon me. Did I punch him yeah. I punched him I punched him as hard as I could, and it didn't do anything. I said, and I would do it again today. Anyway, long story short, he ended up taking a plea, and he had to pay restitution. He had to pay the medical Feals, restitution for the deputies involved, and he got some time. And I think the judge gave my two years of the plea they've put it down to, like, two years. I mean, proven that he actually stole the stuff in his truck site even though he had boards on the back of the truck. I mean, you can't prove that shit out on a reasonable ballot, but you could definitely prove by my injuries 199 my busted face. Yeah. They I forgot they'd take pictures of that. detective came out to the hospital when I was all luked up on the pills or whatever it was they gave me. And took pictures of my, you know, facial injuries 199 and my hand and all that. Of course, we had the doctor's report, etcetera. So we would've slammed him on that no doubt in the resisting, the injury 199 the officer. Actually, it was it was second degree battery because anytime you get into an altercation, 199 somebody hits somebody 199 it causes such pain that the I think the law reads extreme physical pain. If you don't receive an end of it you have extreme physical pain, you lose consciousness, or you get disfigurement or you have to seek medical attention and makes it a second degree matter. Well, yeah, that's same thing as as attempted murder in the state of Louisiana. Now again, battery in the rest of the United States. Is the battery a salt are are different than they are in Louisiana. It's swapped. In Louisiana, battery is the unwanted touching in the rest of the United States, a battery is the the threat. Okay? In Louisiana, an assault is actually the verbal threat. Or if you pick up a 199, you point at somebody and you don't shoot them, that's that's an aggravated soldier using a firearm. But there's different levels of it, but it's swapped everywhere else. If you're in Texas or California, 199 hear me say, second degree battery. It's not a threat. K? It was secondary battery, which is the same thing that there was no attempted murder charge on the book. So that he had serious shit. I think it took two years they let him out on one. No. It must have been lower in two years. Whatever was after two Feals, I got a call from the parole officer. And and and say, hey, do you, you know, do you mind if this guy gets out, he's been he's gone through drug rehab programs in the prison blah blah blah. And, yeah, he had had several arrests before, but none none of crime violence. He just he was just a dope head thief. And I told, no. I I don't mind if he gets out of the same thing, like, but when my vehicle got broken into my neighborhood, when I was a detective, and I found the guy that did it, 199 then they called me out of respect and said, hey, he might have guessed pro. He'd been in, like, five or six years. I'm, like, no. But tell him if he ever comes around he's gonna sprinkle a leak. Right? Because I'm gonna kill him. And I told him the same thing. I said, you just I mean, I hope he's straight. I hope he goes on lives a, you know, a great productive life, but heathier fucking comes near me again. I'm not gonna fight him. I'm not gonna hurt my hand. And I'm not gonna get my mouth busted open. I'm gonna put a bullet in him. So, anyway, I was thinking about that y'all 199 that's a little bit of a different story. But it popped in my mind when I saw Billy that an idea to dress up like ripped from Yellowstone. And I thought I'm first thing and I thought I'm gonna I mean, because he's, like, six foot eight and just just a massive hug of a man. And the first thing I thought of was that big sum of bitch we had to fight And actually, that's the only time I think it's the only time in my career that I ever had to go to the emergency room for my injuries. Right? So but, you know, my head up was no big Feals. After that. I was sore for a little while and what have you, but my face was, you know, a little fucked up that, but it is what it I was sore for a little while and what have you, but then my face was, you know, a little fucked up. That, but it is what it is. So anyway, I love and appreciate y'all. I know this was a little bit different, and I'm down this morning recording commercial. I said, you know what? Let me tell this story what I'm thinking. I would say, I hope y'all enjoyed it. Thank you for being a Patreon members Canva and hey, Patreon members. The Convex are basically Patreon's in the real life, real crime community app, which is free to download. But if you're already a patreon member and you Canva swap over, it's really really easy. There's instructions on how to do it. But if you can't figure out how to do it, then message Cindy Overton or cindy, CYNDI, at real life real crime dot 199. she'll get you taken care of, or you can message her on Facebook or whatever. 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