Charles, Matt, and Gregg are joined by Gabriel Lopez and George Nunez, to discuss Homeboy Industries, how it helped them change their lives, and how they experience kinship. Gabriel Lopez is a Senior Navigator at Homeboy Industries in Los Angeles, California, the largest gang intervention program in the world and founded by Father Greg Boyle. George Nunez is a member of the Security staff at Homeboy Industries. Both are former clients. The Homeboy Industries website is here: http://www.homeboyindustries.org/