With today’s runaway costs, finding and controlling fraud and abuse is more important than ever. On today’s show, we have special guest Bill Lucia, the CEO, President and Chairman for HMS. They are a leader in the cost containment space, serving over 40 states Medicaid programs, Medicare, 325+ commercial health plans, as well as many large employers nationally.

In this episode, Dr. Steve and Bill Lucia discuss:

- Reducing healthcare waste is more than a technology fix

- Understanding how current and future risk bear on costs

- Telehealth as an engagement tool

- HMS' acquisition of Eliza for consumer engagement

- The power of investing into behavioral & advertising science