We recorded a Podcast, Episode 9, before Dermot Daly, founder of Tapadoo traveled to WWDC 2014 so on this Podcast we chat now he's back, rested and has had time to think. Did we get anything right? And in our nerdiest Podcast yet, we look at what Apple's new programming language Swift really means to app developers. And Dermot explains (briefly) how he very nearly didn't make it to the Moscone this year because of, what we'll call an admin error.