Joe and Amy wonder muse on how alcohol escapes a warning label especially now that the American Cancer has released a study on how it fuels cancer. Biden administration commits to science driving policy but will that include drug policy? The alcoholic of the day, Matt Rinklin of Release Recovery Foundation, stops by to chat about his higher power and how his foundation helps underserved get into treatment. Journalist and community activist, Erica Sandberg, gets out the brass tacks to explain her ardent opposition to harm reduction.