Our month of Christmas movies continues with a less widely-acknowledged staple of the genre: Ted Demme's 1994 comedy The Ref starring Dennis Leary, Kevin Spacey, and Judy Davis. How has this movie aged in the past 18 years? Better or worse than The Santa Clause (the other big Christmas movie that came out that year)? Also, why the hell was this movie released in March of 1994, when it is clearly very Christmasy? And why am I yelling?!

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