On the final day of AusCERT last week delegates were treated to a fascinating talk by Dr. Jason Fox, gamification expert and author of the book The Game Changer.

Jason's expertise is in finding out how to take the motivational aspects of games and apply them to work processes. We all know that sitting your staff down in a dimly lit auditorium to lecture them on spear phishing does precisely nothing to change user behaviour. But what if you made the hunt for spear phishing messages a game?

I sat down with Jason Fox after his presentation and recorded this interview.