-How do I balance helping people in tough circumstances and maintaining my own emotional health? (15:18-36:15)-FiveThirtyEight writer and author of "Arriving At Amen" Leah Libresco joins us to talk about her analysis of lyrics in modern Christian pop music. (37:23-49:43)-They guys recommend art that deals with the less happy shiny side of Christianity. (50:30-54:59)-What is the guys' take on the idea of friends with benefits? (55:04-1:09:16)

Closing Song: The Religion of My Youth (Jed Brewer)

Find more from Leah Libresco at Arrivingatamen.com and on Twitter @LeahLibresco