As you begin to establish your business, it's only natural to want to make it as successful as possible. And if you're lucky, and it starts to gain traction, you'll hopefully start to see some serious money coming your way. So far so good, right?

But the trouble with this is, the longer it goes on, it can get harder to get off the treadmill. And this is when the hustle culture can kick in and you get stuck in a growth for growth's sake cycle.

My guest today is Chris Bello. Chris began his career in oil and gas but never felt comfortable with being micromanaged. So he decided to launch himself as a realtor, using his Entrepreneur Motivation Podcast to track his journey. He has now achieved the rare distinction of being a realtor whose business success is entirely independent of his location, and which fits around the life he wants to lead.

In this conversation, Chris and I go deep on hustle culture, superficial goals, and negotiating different models of success to reconnect with what's important to you.