In this episode of Secular Stories, Jonathan interviews Al Laiman of the Inciting Incident Podcast. They discuss Al's “unlikely” track from elementary school to the University of Pennsylvania, how Inciting Incident came about, social justice, mental health, and more! Special thanks to Jason Comeau for the awesome music used throughout the show. Check out the link for more tunes from Pastor Jay.

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