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“If you make somebody feel something, you've kind of succeeded, unless they feel that they hate you.” – Matthew Van der Want

In this week's episode, I chat to South African singer, songwriter and legend, Matthew Van der Want. He talks about his complicated relationship with success, living in a constant state of writers block, being disillusioned, collaborating with Chris Letcher, and how music is a fantastic way to communicate emotion.

This is one of my favourite episodes.

Outro music : Times Up 2 - Matthew Van der Want with Chris Letcher, Victoria Hume, Andrew Joseph and Nic Bjorkman
Music used with permission from the rights holder Matthew van der Want on Twitter · Matthew van der Want on Bandcamp · WATCH van der Want / Letcher - Lockdown Live