BOLD is a podcast about race and justice in America, and a collaboration between Small Beans and Showing Up For Racial Justice, produced by White People 4 Black Lives. In the second episode, writer, educator, and legendary social justice advocate Paul Kivel helps Dahlia and Michael explain a bit of the history of white allyship, what your stakes as a white person are in dismantling racism in America, the history of racial assimilation in America, the relationship between racism and economic inequality, and much, much more.

Also features a piece by Ariel Luckey, and voices and sounds from ongoing protests against 24-Hour Fitness following the locker-room murder of Albert Ramon Dorsey by police.