We chat with Sarah Ngu, former deacon at Brooklyn’s Forefront Church and writer with bylines in Vice, Jacobin, and Sojourners (she also has not-bylines as a ghostwriter). We talk about her family’s journey from Malaysia to New York as part of a church planting movement; how writing sermons differs from journalism differs from ghost writing; and the varying merits of animal proteins.

Check out Sarah’s website to see a collection of her writing—we recommend reading a transcript of her sermon titled Decolonizing Christianity. Also, check out her project Church Clarity, a database of churches scored based on their policies regarding LGBTQ affirmation and women in leadership.

Model Minorities

Yoko’s model minority is Maya Man, a creative technologist at Google who, in collaboration with renowned performance artist Bill T. Jones, created Body, Movement, Language, an experiment that uses artificial intelligence to make dance accessible to the masses.

Kate’s model minority is Bowen Yang, writer and now castmember of Saturday Night Live. He’s the first Asian castmember in 45 seasons! Can you freaking believe it?