All stories have the same roots - or, at least, that’s what our boy Joseph Campbell says. This week, we enter into the cycle of The Hero’s Journey with special guest Mischa Stanton. We’ll talk Basic Hero Bitches, the archetype behind grumpy Obi-wan Kenobi, stories of our theatre school dropout days, and just how to get past self-loathing when fighting the forces of evil.

Mischa Stanton is creator of Ars Paradoxica and audio producer of The Bright Sessions. Find them on Twitter @MischaEtc. Our Time Travel audio extra is at Patreon.com/SpiritsPodcast.

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