Journalist Hazel Davis got on the phone to Dr Kat Arney to talk about Rebel Cell: Cancer, Evolution and the Science of Life, Kat's book – out now – about the big bug in the system of life and how we get cancer because we can't not get it. They also chat cancer and Covid-19, Tasmanian devils, clams, Maud Slye and LOADS of mice.https://www.rebelcellbook.com/Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/standardissuespodcast.Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices