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of Morehouse Innovation and Entrepreneurship

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Center. They are assisting the development

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of minority entrepreneurship through

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scholarly research, training and

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consulting services. Please please walk

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with the Money Making Conversation Masterclass, Doctor

1:02

Tiffany Bussy. Are you doing, Doctor Bussy?

1:05

I am doing Wonderfulora Sean, And first

1:07

of all, thank you so much for having me. It

1:09

is indeed a pleasure to be here and congratulations

1:12

on your show.

1:13

Thank you, thank you. I really appreciate that. Now

1:16

I gave out a big title here Director of

1:18

the more House, which is Morehouse College

1:20

HBCU, one of the big more prominent

1:23

HBCUs in the country. Director of the

1:25

Morehouse Innovation and Entrepreneurship

1:28

CE. What is that?

1:30

Wow?

1:30

Yes, it is about bull But we are

1:33

really really proud of the work we've been doing

1:35

here at We call it our

1:37

loving name for it is the MIEC. We've

1:40

been doing this work for the past twenty years,

1:42

which is really really just focused

1:44

on helping businesses, black

1:47

and brown businesses scale. We

1:49

believe that our entrepreneurship and small

1:51

businesses but one of the pathways

1:53

in closing the racial income

1:56

inequality GAMP in this country. So that's

1:58

the work we've been busy doing for the past

2:01

twenty years, whether it is working with our

2:03

students right here on campus or

2:06

working with businesses in the community. We

2:08

see this work as an important piece

2:11

in really driving wealth

2:13

within our community.

2:15

Well, you know, some doctor busy. The stereotypes

2:17

drive this country and drive the world,

2:19

really because when they start talking about black

2:22

businesses, you know what the

2:24

stereotized do you have to deal with and

2:27

trying to understand and navigate

2:29

the world of entrepreneurship people with people

2:31

who are people of color, who are interested

2:34

in trying to be small business owners.

2:36

Sure, and so we hear that every day. Right.

2:39

The group of businesses that we work

2:41

with, and we've learned this as we've pive our

2:44

work over the like I mentioned twenty

2:46

years, are really what we call scalable

2:49

mid size companies. And

2:52

some may wonder do they really exist,

2:54

and I would say yes. We've touched

2:57

over four hundred of these businesses over

2:59

the past twenty years and have helped them

3:01

to create over eight hundred and fifty new jobs.

3:03

Now that's significant. And the

3:06

work we do is to really help

3:08

these larger what I would call large

3:10

primes that say they can't find

3:12

these businesses to be a part of their supply

3:15

chain or their supply and diversity programs,

3:18

and we help these programs to really grow

3:20

in scale and to make them accessible

3:22

to these larger companies. I

3:25

think with you would agree that we've

3:27

been doing a fantastic job because these

3:29

companies, as they have gone through all

3:31

programs and as we've touched them, have

3:34

really gained over thirty four million in

3:36

access to new capital, which has been

3:38

one of the biggest barriers we hear about

3:40

quite a bit and have really helped

3:42

them to generate over eighty two million

3:45

in new revenues. Now that's not right.

3:50

You know.

3:50

The thing about it is that, you

3:52

know, we thought all these numbers, we thought

3:54

about all the success stories, but

3:56

it also comes back to the opportunity

3:59

to get the shot at

4:02

the big prize. Now, this center,

4:04

how does one you know,

4:06

how does it? How do you use your the

4:09

purpose of the center to impact a

4:11

person like me? Say, I'm coming through the door, I'm

4:13

contacting you them, Why am I

4:15

contacting you? And what will you be able to allow

4:18

assist me in my career

4:20

goals as a small business owner.

4:22

Sure, and thank you for really

4:24

asking that question, because one of and

4:26

it's in the design of our programs.

4:29

We know that basically we have heard

4:31

about the lack of capital or access to

4:33

capital. What we don't talk about

4:35

quite as much is access to opportunities,

4:38

as you have nicely placed it.

4:40

So in designing our programs, we are

4:43

attached to what we call opportunity partners,

4:46

those large primes and by the way, we

4:48

work mostly with companies

4:50

that we call B to B. They're really

4:53

generating services to serve other

4:55

businesses. That's the business

4:57

model that we work with. So what does

4:59

that that look like. We work with these large

5:02

companies such as your large

5:04

general contractors that have huge

5:06

construction jobs or

5:09

work and we design our programs

5:11

so that when the companies come in and

5:13

work with us, they're not only getting

5:15

access to capital, but

5:17

also access to contracts the

5:20

other see that is often not talked

5:22

about. So it's the intentionality

5:25

of really creating those opportunities

5:27

on working side by side with

5:29

these large firms

5:31

to ensure that these small businesses

5:34

such as yourself, as you through

5:36

our programs. This is not just technical assistant

5:39

for technical assistant's sake. I like to say,

5:41

this is not about bucks and seats. This

5:43

is about how do you impact and create

5:45

opportunities to have these companies

5:48

meet and engage with these

5:50

large primes that have the opportunities

5:52

to learn how to navigate that landscape

5:55

and to make the contracts available for

5:57

them as they go through our programs. We

5:59

all like to say that we create a community.

6:02

This is not a one off for us. So

6:04

these four hundred businesses that I told you

6:06

that we touch, we are in constant

6:08

communication with them, sharing opportunities

6:11

and making sure that they leave with

6:13

not only the information, but

6:16

also how to implement and to be ready

6:18

to deploy for those contracts and to

6:21

engage with new revenue. At the end of the day,

6:23

it's revenue that drives and scale

6:26

businesses.

6:27

You know what frustrates me the most. And now

6:29

what you just said is that the reputation

6:32

that the black community have of not

6:34

having skilled labor

6:36

their jobs out there, that we are not educated

6:39

or qualifying for. How

6:42

are you assisting us in tearing

6:45

down that wall or that stereotype

6:47

that we are not ready and if

6:49

opportunities presents itself to us,

6:51

we're not qualified.

6:53

Yeah, and so one

6:55

of the things that again is the intentionality

6:58

and understanding where these opportunity it is

7:00

are. I will share with you

7:02

that just as recented today, a few hours

7:04

ago, as a matter of fact, I

7:06

had the opportunity to visit with the good Will

7:08

industries here in Georgia.

7:11

Goodwill, Yes, good Will, the same one

7:14

that you know of that provides

7:16

you know, perhaps use

7:18

goods and things like that. Availability.

7:21

Well, they also do training, job

7:23

readiness training. But the reason

7:26

I was there.

7:27

Doctor busty, old hodly. You just slid

7:29

through that real quick. Now, I've

7:32

been passing good Wills all my life, all right,

7:34

I've lived in Houston. Good Will. You go

7:36

there, you get closed that you can't afford. You

7:39

go there and probably get an old chair

7:41

or old furniture piece

7:43

and you bring it home and hey, you live

7:46

with it. That's what you got, that's what you can afford.

7:49

Now you're telling me that Goodwill has

7:52

job training that's not tied to the

7:55

in store sales.

7:56

That that's correct. One of the other

7:59

things that they do and I'm out here

8:01

too. They didn't pay me to sell someone

8:03

theath of Goodwill. But one of the other things

8:05

that they do very well is job training.

8:08

I like I said, I was so

8:10

impressed. I visited one of their

8:12

newest training job training facility

8:14

here in Atlanta, Georgia, and I

8:17

must say it was top of the art. And

8:19

what we're looking at is to collaborate

8:22

with Goodwill in terms of its

8:25

clean tech training jobs. Now,

8:27

I'm gonna break that down a little bit because

8:29

we talked about knowing opportunities

8:32

and being ready for opportunities, and the way

8:34

you do that is by being ahead

8:37

of the opportunities, and that's

8:39

exactly what we're looking at. What does that

8:41

look like for black and brown businesses

8:44

to be a part of this ten

8:46

trillion dollar global

8:49

market in sustainability. Now

8:51

those are some big fancy words, but

8:54

all it means is that we know that

8:57

global warming is a thing and it

8:59

does exist, and that in order

9:01

to address that, there is a huge

9:04

industry that is being developed

9:06

and that is about to be launched and is

9:09

already launched because the rest of the world is ahead of

9:11

us on this in terms of

9:13

what that means and how do we create

9:15

businesses and jobs

9:18

in that particular sector to

9:21

be an active part and to be at

9:23

the table and not after the fact.

9:25

And so as we have

9:28

been talking with Goodwill, who is now doing

9:30

this training for those that would

9:32

like to think of new careers and new opportunities,

9:36

we are engaged in helping businesses

9:39

understand what that market looks like and

9:41

also giving them access to these employed

9:45

individuals. We often

9:47

hear and we have already talked about this access

9:50

to financial capital, which is usually

9:52

one of the barriers, the other piece

9:54

that we often don't talk about, and businesses

9:57

will tell you that is a real thing

9:59

for them. Is access to human capital.

10:02

How do they find the workers? How

10:04

do they find skilled workers to meet

10:06

the demand that they have? And so,

10:08

not only are we getting ready to prepare

10:11

these businesses to be a part of this

10:13

whole sustainability market, but

10:16

engaging them and connecting them with

10:18

goodwill? Who is training the

10:20

employees that become part

10:22

of that work and employable. I'm

10:24

going to pause it because I know I said a lot.

10:27

Well, don't pause too long.

10:29

But I do have a question because

10:31

of the fact that whenever you hear courses

10:34

and all that money, how

10:37

can I afford this are there? You know?

10:39

Did the word free mean

10:41

that it's going to be something that I

10:43

can take somewhere with a certificate? How

10:46

do I enable this relationship

10:49

to benefit me and get me out of the indulgence

10:51

of the lifestyle finances I'm living

10:54

in right now? How does that work?

10:56

Well, Rashan, I don't know if I'm here to

10:59

bring good use all around. But

11:01

and I don't like to use the word three because

11:04

there's always a cost associating to everything.

11:06

But on the point they told you you can't use

11:08

free, because I'm on the website, I see free now

11:11

see see don't tell you, doctor Bussy.

11:13

I just couldn't believe you when you say good Will

11:15

didn't did more than close. Actually,

11:19

while we talking, I typed in Goodwill

11:22

training program bad No

11:25

good Will's door popped up. It

11:27

was about certificates and the word free

11:29

was right there. So I'm verified that

11:31

doctor Bussy is about to tell you guys

11:34

the truth on money making conversations, masterclass,

11:36

Doctor Bussy, the floor is.

11:37

Yours, and I have a

11:39

double coupod if you will. Not

11:44

only is the training for and we

11:47

talked about at the employee level. Right,

11:49

So I'm an individual out

11:51

of a job, looking for a job, looking for reskills.

11:54

Yes, I could go to Goodwill and it's at no

11:56

cost for me. Not only

11:58

is it at no cost, Goodwill in

12:01

many instances will actually pay

12:03

you and give you a stipend for participating

12:06

in that causs and the

12:08

time that you're involved with that retraining

12:10

number one, there are many other

12:13

opportunities on. Like I said, I

12:15

get no compensation from Goodwill to

12:18

talk about their program, but I know it benefits

12:20

our community and that's why I am sharing that.

12:22

The second piece, however, that I can absolutely

12:25

say with all certainty, if you

12:27

are a business which is the

12:30

work that we're in in training businesses

12:32

and helping business and soon to stand up

12:34

a certificate in sustainability

12:37

for these businesses that want to be part of

12:39

this sustainability sector. Our

12:42

training is also of no cost

12:44

to those companies. We are fortunate

12:46

and what does that look like. We are fortunate

12:48

to have the support of some wonderful

12:51

philanthropical organizations such

12:53

as JP Morgan Chase, Wills

12:56

Fargo that pays

12:59

and provide the resources

13:01

for us to develop these training programs

13:04

that I've talked about. All the programs

13:06

that I've mentioned in terms of our

13:08

small Business Executive program that

13:10

I touched over four hundred companies.

13:13

We have a particular program called the Assen

13:16

National Program, wonderful

13:18

program sponsored by JP Morgan Chase

13:20

that was the initial founder for this. It

13:22

is a network that brings in these

13:25

small businesses and we really

13:27

focus on how do we scale them so that they

13:29

may provide those jobs for those people

13:31

that are being trained at Goodwill. You see

13:33

how that works and how that connects and

13:35

in building that ecosystem. That's

13:38

what we're about, really creating

13:40

opportunities for new jobs, to

13:42

create pathways in closing this racial

13:46

inequality gap that we have in this country

13:48

that.

13:48

We always talk about, but we don't ever have a

13:50

plan or see the options. Are you telling

13:52

me right now? Goodwill is offering a

13:54

plan and options.

13:56

And let's not forget more house because

13:58

we're on the other se also, So Goodwill

14:01

does the training of the employees.

14:03

We do the training of the companies that

14:05

can hire those employees and come

14:08

part of the supply chain for

14:10

the larger such as the electrical companies

14:13

and the other huge companies

14:15

hopefully like Tesla that are building

14:17

these wonderful electrical vehicles, so

14:20

that we can create that infrastructure

14:23

to provide and support those

14:25

electrical vehicles. That's one example. There's

14:28

solar. There's also other sustainable

14:31

efforts within that sector, but I just

14:33

wanted to point those out as examples.

14:36

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So let's let's go back four hundred small

15:06

minority owned businesses are positively

15:09

impacted eight hundred and fifty new

15:11

jobs, created, thirty four million

15:13

dollars in capital access, and nearly

15:16

eighty two million in revenue growth in

15:18

the local Atlanta area. And that

15:20

I'm speaking to the director of the Mohouse

15:23

Innovation Entrepreneurship

15:25

Center, doctor Tiffany Bussy, doct

15:27

Tiffany Bussy. Electric

15:29

vehicles dominate

15:32

the industry best the voice

15:35

one of my employees. He's thinking about getting an

15:37

electric vehicle. Black people

15:40

will not buying electric vehicle, but

15:42

that industry is booming

15:45

because you got to have someplace to plug that car

15:47

up. Talk about the EV industry

15:50

and talk to my listeners. They

15:53

might not be the one, but they might know somebody who

15:55

needs to really clearly understand this pathway

15:57

to success can't be through EV.

16:01

That and I'm happy to talk about

16:03

EV, which is about one hundred and sixty three

16:06

billion dollar industry. It has

16:08

its what I would

16:11

call its downside, because there's this what they call

16:13

anxiety about electrical vehicles.

16:15

And you're right, perhaps the lowest segments

16:17

of those quartering vehicles is perhaps in

16:20

our community, which is why we

16:22

must intentionally build out the infrastructure

16:25

to address that issue. I know I

16:27

don't have one because I'm going how far can I

16:30

drive before I see the next charging station?

16:32

Right?

16:32

We got to have more of those. But I

16:34

really want to quickly share that the

16:36

sustainability industry is

16:39

only about one segment with ev There's

16:41

the Green Bill, which is about how do we build

16:44

our homes? How do we make them more efficient?

16:46

And that's a three hundred and twenty four billion

16:48

dollar industry. So anyone out there

16:51

that's in construction, that's

16:53

listening to your podcast and

16:55

your many millions of followers,

16:57

if you're in constructions and you're not thinking

17:00

thinking about how do you build sustainable,

17:03

don't leave that behind because you are going

17:05

to be left behind. We are thinking about

17:07

how do we do all these things in a

17:09

more sustainable fashion. If you're

17:11

in agriculture, a twenty billion

17:13

dollar industry, we are thinking about

17:15

how do we grow our products more sustainable

17:18

and what does that look like? Renewable

17:20

energy again huge nine hundred

17:22

and fifty two billion dollar industry. We

17:25

are talking about a lot of money and

17:27

a lot of opportunities, which is where

17:29

we started this conversation in

17:31

terms of how do we as

17:33

we think about business opportunity. Let's

17:35

not think about that starting another nightclub.

17:38

We don't need that. What we need are

17:40

business within this sector of

17:43

sustainability in these eras that I've

17:45

just mentioned. That's what we're talking about

17:47

when we're talking about building successful companies.

17:50

We got to think outside the box and our

17:52

traditional ways of how we look at

17:54

businesses.

17:55

We know some I don't even think is outside

17:57

the box. It's just open your eyes. That's

18:00

what we tend to do. We tend to only see

18:02

what we feel we are have

18:05

access to. And that's what this interview

18:07

is about, is that what you're doing

18:09

at more House and what Goodwill

18:12

is doing is providing access

18:14

an opportunity. What we have to do is

18:16

not be naysayers and seek

18:19

and jump upon or jump up to

18:22

the opportunity that's being presented yourself.

18:24

And that's why I keep going back when I'm talking to you about

18:27

there's so many people standing at

18:29

the door not going in. Why is

18:31

that.

18:35

We do the other side of the work we

18:37

do is really about the research about why

18:39

this is right? And I think that

18:42

number one, as a

18:44

people, historically we have good

18:47

reasons for that right. We

18:49

have not been treated fairly Historically,

18:52

we know that if we were

18:54

not entrepreneurial in our very nature.

18:57

Entrepreneurship is in our DNA, we

18:59

wouldn't be here as a people number one, because

19:02

we survive, right, and that's being entrepreneurial.

19:04

So I really push against when people say

19:07

that you've got to be born and

19:09

this cannot be taught. We as people

19:12

have all the characteristics

19:14

I would say of being those

19:17

calculated risk takers. Now

19:20

we also are

19:22

I would say, not as open to

19:25

failure because of so many

19:27

things that whatever we do,

19:29

we have to perform at exceedingly

19:33

deep level for folks to accept us,

19:35

because there are always that level

19:38

of doubt. There's always that

19:40

we cannot do it. And so one

19:42

of the things, especially as I work with my students

19:44

who are black men at Morehouse,

19:47

is truly to break down some of

19:49

those historical traits that

19:51

we understand that our psychological

19:54

barriers. Right. I could recall

19:56

when my son was leaving for college

19:58

and he you know, you would think because

20:00

I teach this, I would certainly encourage it.

20:03

But one of the things I thought about, if he comes

20:05

back to me after four years of going to

20:07

college and perhaps in debt and tell

20:09

me Mom, I'm going to open that business. I

20:12

don't know how I would react.

20:14

I would go get that job first,

20:16

pay off that debt, and then maybe

20:18

come back and talk to me about a business. Right,

20:21

So, we as

20:23

a community are not as

20:26

privileged as perhaps our conterparts,

20:29

from our Caucasian

20:31

counterparts, able to take

20:33

those calculated risks that I'm talking

20:35

about that you need to do and to accept

20:38

the failure.

20:39

The fact is that eighty six percent of

20:41

our small businesses are going to fail within

20:43

the first three years. That's a given, and

20:45

that is part of the process. So we have

20:47

to have some things on the table

20:49

and be willing to accept

20:52

that failure as part of the process. We're

20:54

not quite there yet. We have loans

20:57

we got to pay back once we get out

20:59

of college. We have families we have

21:01

to take care of, and so those

21:03

opportunities and those are real things

21:06

that we must consider. So I would

21:08

say that, yes,

21:10

entrepreneurship, but we cannot all be on entrepreneurs

21:13

and let's not romanticize entrepreneurship.

21:16

It's perhaps one of the hardest things

21:18

that would ever do. And you probably

21:20

can speak to that.

21:21

That's Rob Landford. It's not a forty

21:23

hour way job. Everybody. It's no guarantee

21:26

your vacation. If you're sick, get

21:28

up and go to work, because sick days don't happen

21:30

when you running your own business. And guess what

21:32

you can't beat You can't let the customers

21:35

beat you to your business, that's the bottom

21:37

line. So that means that you have to be there,

21:39

set up and ready to go. Whether you running

21:41

a business or provide product, you

21:44

have to understand that as a small business

21:46

owner, it is the most rewarding for

21:48

the most fatiguing thing that you can do. But

21:51

when you do it right, ownership

21:53

and that's what we need, ownership. And

21:56

I want to make that transition statement to the

21:58

Small Business Executive Program

22:00

and the three seeds of the Small Business

22:02

Executive Program. I wanted to ask you about

22:04

doctor Bussy because of the fact that you're

22:06

throwing theres so much knowledge you know about

22:09

the program that's available at ball House, telling

22:11

us what good will doing not only providing

22:14

free opportunities for job training, but

22:16

also providing paying you for

22:18

some opportunities over there. Now,

22:21

we talked about pushing

22:23

past stereotypes walking through

22:25

that glass door. We are always heard

22:28

about the glass ceiling, but for minority.

22:30

It's just walking through that door. What is

22:32

the three seeds of the small business

22:35

Executive program?

22:36

Capital, connections,

22:38

and contracts. I

22:40

ensured capital dominates

22:43

the conversation right every time, access

22:45

to capital, access to hack

22:48

and brown businesses don't have access to capital.

22:50

I like to say, equally as important,

22:53

again, are those contracts.

22:55

If you have capital and you don't have revenue,

22:58

and you can't sell like you said to your

23:00

customers, and you don't have customers, your

23:02

business probably will not succeed.

23:05

In order to get those contracts. You

23:07

might be equally as qualified. What you

23:09

need is the connections. You need to be in the

23:12

room. You need to be in front of the folks that

23:14

have the decision power in

23:16

making those contracts

23:18

available. And so we like to see our three

23:21

seeds capital, connections

23:24

and contracts.

23:25

Now, let me ask you this doct about will connections

23:28

carry the same value as relationships?

23:30

It is exactly the same thing.

23:32

Okay, cool?

23:33

Well, relationships you might say.

23:35

I might say I know no Rashan, but

23:37

does Rashan know me? So

23:39

that's the difference. Right, So that

23:42

network has to be a two way thing.

23:44

You need to know about me and my capabilities,

23:47

and I need to know about you and what you

23:50

offer. Many times, what we hear

23:52

from the large primes that have all these contracts

23:54

is that we think that a one size

23:57

fits all and we think that by saying

23:59

I do information technology

24:02

and you need to do business with me. Well, that's

24:04

not the way it works. You need to find

24:06

out what the problem that that potential

24:09

customer has and be able

24:11

to offer a solution. People don't

24:13

buy products and services for the

24:15

heck of products and services. They

24:17

buy solutions. So when

24:19

we start understanding, and that's the way we

24:22

teach and the way that we do our

24:24

technical assistance is really about

24:26

falling in love with that problem that you think

24:28

you're solving. Because if you approach

24:31

a customer or a potential customer

24:33

and see, this is how I can help you and

24:35

help you solve your problem, more

24:37

than likely you will get that business. As

24:39

opposed to you going and say this is what I

24:42

sell and this is the price, and you

24:44

don't make that value proposition very

24:47

clear to that potential customer,

24:49

you probably won't get that new

24:51

customer.

24:52

Wow, I tell you. Her name

24:54

is doctor Tiffany Bussy, Chief, the director

24:56

of the Morehouse Innovation and Entrepreneurship

24:59

Center. I don't know what you expected when you

25:01

came on my show or got invited to come on

25:03

the show, Doctor Bussey, but the

25:05

information you've given me is it's going to change

25:08

people's lives. It's going to give them an opportunity

25:10

to see life a little bit different and also

25:13

value information. And

25:15

that's what this show is about, giving information that

25:17

can change their lives. In closing, you

25:19

want to wrap up with any thoughts or

25:21

any information that we may have missed

25:24

that you want to tell about what you're doing over that more

25:26

House.

25:27

So, first of all, Rashan, what you're doing is

25:29

invaluable. I think, so

25:31

really kudos to you and your show. I

25:34

think one of the most important things is

25:36

sharing of information. So many

25:38

times I hear we have no idea,

25:41

we didn't know this was happening, and that is happening.

25:43

So there cannot be anything as

25:45

too much information. So please continue doing

25:47

what you're doing, and I hope that you will have me

25:49

back in sharing this. But

25:52

I want to share also that folks that

25:54

would love to know more about our programs, and

25:56

again being in mind that we serve

25:58

what we call mids scaled

26:01

up companies, right looking to go to the

26:03

next level, really helping to have

26:05

these businesses grow perhaps three to

26:07

five years in business, looking

26:10

to scale from about two million in revenues

26:12

to get them to five and twenty

26:14

five million. Our information can

26:16

be found at the MCE Center

26:19

that's m C E C E N

26:21

T e R dot com, or off

26:23

the Morehouse College website which is Morehousecollege

26:27

dot edu. I

26:29

would also say that one of the things that

26:31

we have is part of our organizational

26:33

structure is the Small Business

26:35

Development Center at Morehouse. That

26:38

center provides services, again

26:40

to small businesses looking to scale

26:43

and grow through our

26:45

partnership. We may be a

26:47

touchpoint through our small business executive

26:50

programs, but we then hand off

26:52

to that Small Business Development Center and

26:54

they stay with you through the life of

26:56

your company. So it is about building

26:58

community and really making sure

27:01

that you sustain and grow as

27:03

your company really exists until

27:05

you're ready to perhaps exit or sell

27:07

that company.

27:08

Wow, you're fantastic. Let me just say

27:10

that, honestly, you're fantastic. And the fact

27:13

that I've allowed to interview you on

27:15

my show Money Making Conversations Master Class,

27:17

let me know I've got this platform, this

27:19

podcast hitting in the right direction again.

27:22

You will be coming back on my show because, like

27:24

I said, you shut it down with the good Will

27:26

shower because I didn't know Goodwill did

27:28

that. So I know you got a lot more information you're

27:30

gonna pick back up and tell me about in three months.

27:32

So every three months, let's come back on this show

27:34

and shock the world. You over the

27:37

more House, Okay, thank you,

27:39

associate you you stay in touch

27:41

with me over here. Money Making Conversations Master Class

27:43

again Doctor Tiffany Bussey over the

27:45

more House doing her thing.

27:48

See you next with y'all. Bye bye. This

27:50

has been another edition of Money Making Conversation

27:53

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27:55

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27:57

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