In this week's episode, Ben and Chris discuss the Surton founder story. They've been building Surton for two and a half years and have learned a ton of lessons. They discuss their both unique perspectives as first and second-time founders and share their wisdom gained throughout the process.

Intro and Outro music is https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lazy_Salon/Invisible_Like_Peace/07_Chips_Folly by LAZY SALON and is licensed under https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/