This week’s TF is a little different. Okay, a lot different. This week we don’t have a Match Day 10 wrap, but we do have something that feels urgent after this past weekend’s slate: a look at what’s ailing FC Bayern München, currently in third place.

Matt gets Joshua Kloke, FC Bayern writer for The Athletic, on the line and they go at it for the better part of an hour, trying to get at what’s gone wrong for the club. After a week full of misadventure off the pitch (Rafinha’s crude costume, Lisa Müller-gate, Football Leaks) and on it (another indifferent outing, this time a draw against SC Freiburg), the discussion feels urgent. Produced by Aidan Rantoul.

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