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punch man into 100. up where Gentry
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with a spy family. She
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does a spy family smirk.
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meme. Same with a spy family. She does
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so family smirk. It's amazing. Yeah.
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Awesome. Yeah. The hey. Coming
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you from Crunchyroll HQ. It
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feels like forever since done this. this.
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know, I know, Let's take a break. break. pressure. Take a
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break and you gotta control the show? Ah. the show. This
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is is the effect you already know
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where each each bring you interviews
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with amazing people from across
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the world of anime directors, actors,
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artists, and more to
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discuss their work and
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their anime favorites It's
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pop culture. with an anime
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lens. Okay, I'm Okay, I'm excited
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for this one. This week week, we get
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to bring you our conversation with
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Echo Wu. You may not know her
2:18
name. her name. Right now, you will. But
2:20
you'll know know game. But She's
2:22
the it writer and director
2:24
of Gentry writer, and director of Gentry Chau,
2:26
versus looks incredible. looks Looks
2:28
sick. Like I said, I said,
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Netflix, new show one is
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coming out. coming out. Well, it's
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out now, so when you're listening to it,
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just go and watch it, go watch it
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now. watch We got to hear from it now. We
2:41
how she got her first animated show to
2:43
streaming her all of the detailed lore around the
2:45
world. the detailed that she is putting
2:47
into the story. she is putting into the very
2:49
interesting. we talked, yeah. it was a was amazing interview.
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Echo is awesome. She's great. gonna we're gonna have
2:53
to start just doing doing spoiler cast, like we're
2:55
real, for real. What's it the the season will be
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on on Netflix. We'll just have to,
3:00
we'll have to have Echo back so
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we can have a spoiler cast for
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this one. to have echo back so we can
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have a spoiler cast for this out of
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her very being oozes out so cool
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to talk to her it's so cool
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about how much care and
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inspiration was care and to the plate
3:16
with the creation of this
3:18
series play we were just talking
3:20
about this on this show. just you
3:23
like lore show you like to
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dive into you legends and like
3:27
cross and myths like myths like It's
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going to be to be cool you. you.
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So definitely tune I'm your
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host, host, Liam President. And back
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from eating much much sweet
3:38
potato casserole. It's me, Lee
3:40
Murray. Murray. and moving from
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one chair to another chair
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to Alex's level. chair, it's Alex Lovell. And
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we are we are here. see just how
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to see just how powerful
3:50
the effect of anime really is.
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is. Okay, on I know even though
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you on break, even though
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you guys got a Thanksgiving
3:59
episode from us. How'd everybody's holiday go?
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holiday was great. I really did just
4:03
move from one chair to this chair. chair
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to this chair. I sat most of the time. the
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I was just, know, Thanksgiving you just
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been. has just been, the
4:11
food, bro. the food. It's been been so
4:13
chill. so chill. I got to get a a
4:15
lot of rest before like like traveling.
4:17
So it's like, it's just kind of of worry. And
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always so weird for me because
4:22
for me because like in my birthdays
4:24
a couple days after birthday is a couple days
4:26
after. So it's like, birthday party
4:28
office. Yeah. It's always like,
4:30
it's always kind of a, it's a
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coin of phrase for the rest of
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the song used by yeah, it's always
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like it's always kind of He calls it
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a coin a phrase limbo. been
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used by Tom from cultaholic. He
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calls it Crembo limbo So it's
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like the weird time between Thanksgiving a
4:47
bunch of stuff it's just a bunch
4:49
of stuff that's just like swirling
4:51
and you don't know like what
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stores are open What's happening like
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it's yeah, it's weird But then
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outside of that most of my
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Thanksgiving was spent listening to the
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new spent listening to yes, yes, yes. album.
5:03
Oh yes, yes, ruled my life
5:05
for the basically ruled my life for
5:08
the last week. What about you, you,
5:10
Leo? Uh, like my Thanksgiving? It was
5:12
it was pretty chill. I
5:14
mean. hung just hung out,
5:16
you know, with my dog. I
5:18
cooked a full Thanksgiving meal, that was
5:20
fun. fun. said in the group chat,
5:22
chat. Yeah, we meal picks in
5:24
the group chat. meal picks and cheese looked. chat.
5:27
Lee's Mac and cheese mine. I
5:30
would not not mine. it like it was
5:32
yours. It is that. Lee not claim. credit
5:34
full credit in the group chat
5:36
Listen, he's being shy, shy. not.
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I I can't cook like that. Are you crazy? Are I mean,
5:41
I can cook. I mean I can cook not like that. it was
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chill was thing is the thing is like some of
5:45
these like end of your for me are
5:47
getting me are getting as the years go
5:49
on years go think as you get older as
5:51
just like older it's just like yeah it's a just
5:53
I don't want to confront because here's
5:55
the thing like I was lame as
5:57
hell for like I lame as hell for Halloween is my
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my holiday. I barely did anything.
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No, I had like a chill
6:04
Thanksgiving. I need to like go
6:06
crazy for Christmas. I need to
6:08
get the rest of my end
6:10
of the year holidays out because
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that's my favorite stretch of months.
6:14
Of course. You gotta, you gotta
6:16
rent, you gotta rent for Christmas.
6:18
I don't know, it's like we're
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of the age now where we're
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asking for socks for holidays and
6:24
that's practical and that's a sensible
6:26
gift. Yeah, that's just the next
6:28
evolution. Yeah, it's like, oh man,
6:30
I got socks and I don't
6:32
have to do anything. Man, this
6:34
is the best, the best. the
6:36
next evolution for you know you
6:38
know anyone watch arcane that was
6:40
my victor where he's like it's
6:42
the grand evolution sorry that's a
6:45
really bad victor if you've been
6:47
arcade over over the holiday like
6:49
I did you know No, I've
6:51
binged from and it is one
6:53
of the most incredible TV shows
6:55
I've ever. Oh really? Especially like,
6:57
because I know you're pretty like
6:59
horror suspense coded. It's very good.
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So if you got Amazon Prime,
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go ahead and fire it up.
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All right, coming up next is
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our interview with Echo Wu, creator
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Gentry Trial versus the underworld. Stick
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starring Timothy Shalomé as Bob Dylan. Are
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you a freak? Hope so. Inspired by
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the true story. I want to know
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which side he's on. Didn't you? They
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just want me saying I'm blowing in
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the wind for the rest of my
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life. Bobby, what
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do you want to be?
7:51
Whatever it is, they don't
7:53
want me to be. He
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defied everyone. Turn it down!
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Play it loud! To change
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We are so happy to be
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joined today here with Echo Wu,
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the showrunner, writer, and director of
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the brand-new animated series Gentry Chau
8:57
versus the underworld, which is about
8:59
a Chinese-American teen living in small
9:02
Texas town. We can kind of
9:04
relate here as Texas dwellers, who
9:06
must now fight an entire underworld's
9:08
worth of monsters while balancing the
9:10
horrors of high school. Welcome to
9:13
the Anime Effect Echo. We are
9:15
so happy to have you and
9:17
to chat with you. Yay, thank
9:19
you for having me. I'm a
9:22
big fan of this podcast. Oh,
9:24
really? Oh, my God. Come true.
9:26
Yeah. Oh, we have some amazing
9:28
guests and, you know, I'm on
9:30
a country role, like 24-7, so.
9:33
No, yeah, Sam, I'm pretty much
9:35
on crunchy roll at work and
9:37
off work at this point. Online
9:39
and offline. But yeah, that's so
9:42
sweet to hear. We have a
9:44
question that we're dying to hear
9:46
from you, that we like to
9:48
ask all of our guests, of
9:50
course. Since you said you watched
9:53
the podcast, you'll know what's coming.
9:55
We want to know what is
9:57
your gateway anime. So my gateway
9:59
anime, okay, it's a toss. I
10:02
have two during that time period.
10:04
And one, of course, you know,
10:06
is car captor Sakura, like a
10:08
elite, elite, you know, amazing. And
10:10
then the other one I was
10:13
watching was like this early 2000s,
10:15
like Canadian, American, Chinese production of
10:17
The Monkey King. If you remember
10:19
that, I vaguely remember that. All
10:22
right, Nishpole. So niche, it's like
10:24
barely anime, but it was like
10:26
in that anime style, but it
10:28
was very cool and it was
10:30
like the first serialized like epic
10:33
that I saw in an animated
10:35
series, so that was that was
10:37
pretty dope. Dude, that's sick. Yeah,
10:39
we'll have to check that out.
10:42
I'm always getting so many, like,
10:44
good recommendations from asking this question.
10:46
So I'm going to have to,
10:48
I'm going to go look it
10:50
up and then it'll be like,
10:53
memory unlocked, like I feel like
10:55
for some reason it makes me
10:57
think of the monkey's paw. Do
10:59
you know? Okay, so of course,
11:02
we have to start out by
11:04
talking about your new show, Gentry
11:06
Chauverts the underworld. It includes some
11:08
myth and folklore from around the
11:10
world, then it includes China, Africa,
11:13
Korea, and Texas. How did you
11:15
blend so many cultures? How did
11:17
you basically like take this multicultural
11:19
mythology? and blended together in the
11:22
show, but also kind of honoring
11:24
the origins of them as well
11:26
too. Yeah, so I was always
11:28
fascinated when I was growing up
11:30
with my friends and stuff. We
11:33
would talk about mythology and the
11:35
different aspects of like our heritage
11:37
and our ethnicity and stuff. And
11:39
you know, you find that there
11:42
are similarities in like food. you
11:44
know, everyone has a universal version
11:46
of like a dumpling and a
11:48
version of a noodle and stuff.
11:50
And so I found that that
11:53
was very similar in culture and
11:55
in mythology too. Like in Chinese
11:57
mythology and in Korean mythology and
11:59
in Japanese mythology too, there's some
12:02
of a deity living on the
12:04
moon that has to do with
12:06
like an immortal lixir or an
12:08
immortal pet bunny that has to
12:10
deal with like immortality and waves
12:13
and how that all like kind
12:15
of comes to fruition and you'll
12:17
see that across all spans of
12:19
the mythology across Asia too. There's
12:22
always some version of a demon
12:24
or ghost and spirits and the
12:26
underworld and they tend to like,
12:28
you know, like nine-tailed foxes, for
12:30
example, are in multiple different cultures
12:33
and dragon and things like that.
12:35
Yeah, exactly. And so I was
12:37
really interested in kind of molding
12:39
those kinds of things and it
12:41
felt very natural for all of
12:44
those mythologies cannot exist together and
12:46
so it came from there like
12:48
I am the most familiar with
12:50
mythologies that come from anime but
12:53
also in Chinese mythology and so
12:55
there was a lot of crossover
12:57
from that and so I think
12:59
it felt like, okay, if those
13:01
worlds existed in reality, then surely
13:04
like American lore and like South
13:06
American and, you know, African lore,
13:08
they all have to exist. And
13:10
because we were setting it in
13:13
Texas, we're like, okay, what are
13:15
the Texas, like the big Texas
13:17
lures? And we can talk about
13:19
this. Yeah. I mean, our next
13:21
question, you know, like we saw
13:24
big text. If you don't know
13:26
who that is, he's like the
13:28
overlord of the Texas State Fair,
13:30
he stands like super tall and
13:33
looms above the Texas State Fair.
13:35
He basically rules Texas for about
13:37
two months and then goes what?
13:39
Yeah, he tells you if your
13:41
soul is good or not. So
13:44
yeah, I mean, it is so
13:46
interesting because I think when I
13:48
was growing up in Texas, I
13:50
had a lot of things. I
13:53
thought were normal and then I
13:55
went to college out of state
13:57
and people were like oh no
13:59
that's not normal we don't have
14:01
a state pledge after the national
14:04
pledge you know like that you
14:06
know you're like we're the only
14:08
ones that do it that we
14:10
both have to honor the US
14:13
and we have to honor the
14:15
state of Texas. I didn't even
14:17
know Texas had a state pledge.
14:19
Because we like- No, yeah. I
14:21
learned that maybe in the last
14:24
two months or something like that,
14:26
that, you know, like when you
14:28
stand up and do the Pledge
14:30
of Allegiance at the beginning of
14:33
school, they say the Texas Pledge.
14:35
Yeah, crazy. Our eyes roll backwards
14:37
and like our eyes completely float
14:39
like two inches. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:41
And we're like, oh, honoring the
14:44
big text. Part of the pledge
14:46
is the honor of a big
14:48
text. As a Missouri kid, I
14:50
would know nothing about that. So,
14:53
yeah. For a show like this,
14:55
there has to be like a
14:57
lot of research that must go
14:59
into, you know, connecting all of
15:01
these different cultures together. What were
15:04
some of your, your other inspirations
15:06
for this story? You know, you
15:08
talked a little bit about, you
15:10
know, loving like magical girls, like
15:13
card, soccer, did any like magical
15:15
girl anime or any shows you
15:17
watch growing up, inspire any aspects
15:19
of this story? Because animation takes
15:21
so long it's like I had
15:24
a certain level of like influences
15:26
that I had in the beginning
15:28
of the show and as we
15:30
were writing and as we were
15:33
as I was watching other things
15:35
I started adapting like other influences
15:37
on the show so it's kind
15:39
of this like big melting pot
15:41
of of my own interests and
15:44
how that's been expanding and you
15:46
know consumption of that. But yeah
15:48
you mentioned magical girl anime that's
15:50
obviously very evident in the show.
15:53
There's also a bit of like
15:55
love triangle anime like we we
15:57
referenced a lot of final fantasy.
15:59
best, the best, the way they
16:01
handle this like will they want
16:04
they love trying to think was
16:06
there. The show in the show
16:08
Gentry and Kit referenced Naruto while
16:10
they're in the science lab and
16:13
they're like trying to figure out
16:15
what to name the frog and
16:17
so they're like arguing whether she's
16:19
a soccer or an edgy. It's
16:21
really cute. Yeah. And we look
16:24
at, you know, horror a lot
16:26
too. So we've referenced Junji Edo
16:28
quite a bit and we looked
16:30
at traditional like Japanese and 80s,
16:33
you know, Hong Kong horror a
16:35
lot too. So it wasn't just
16:37
above anime, but there's definitely a
16:39
lot of like small nods to
16:41
it. I think at some point
16:44
we have a one punch man
16:46
meme. pop up where Gentry just
16:48
turns into one punch man style
16:50
meme. Same with spy family. She
16:53
does a spy family smirk at
16:55
some point. Amazing. Yeah. That's
16:57
one of my favorite moments. So
16:59
what is it like, you know,
17:01
being able to take all of
17:03
this stuff that you love or
17:05
that you have loved? Like, and
17:07
just putting it into just one,
17:09
I don't want to say it's
17:11
like your masterwork, but putting it
17:13
into just a piece of, you
17:16
know, a medium or an art
17:18
form that you just love. Yeah,
17:20
like melting it all down into this.
17:22
Yeah. it was really stressful because
17:24
it sounds so much easier in
17:26
your head and it feels like
17:28
you know that moment of like
17:30
every like I I keep referencing this
17:32
meme of I think you should
17:34
leave where where he's like and
17:36
then there's gonna be this and
17:38
then all this comes in and
17:40
then we're gonna do this and
17:42
then a close-up shot of this and
17:45
then like that's how it feels
17:47
in my in my head but
17:49
really I think the the first
17:51
time I tried to do it
17:53
was through a playlist like I was
17:55
trying to figure out what's the
17:57
right vibe and what's the right
17:59
tone because what's one thing to
18:01
listen to teen romance you know
18:03
as a playlist or a Washington
18:05
romance? another thing to do horror. And
18:07
it's another thing to do like
18:09
these like big action fight sequences.
18:11
And so the first experiment that
18:13
I did for myself when I
18:15
was trying to meld all those things
18:18
together was to create a playlist
18:20
that. felt like it incorporated all
18:22
of those things. Like I wanted
18:24
the playlist to flow from, you
18:26
know, sappy 80s city pop to kind
18:28
of this high hip hop, like
18:30
high Chinese rap, like fast pace
18:32
Chinese rap, and then I. integrated
18:34
back over to, you know, like
18:36
this really spooky kind of Billy
18:38
Eilish-esque music. And then so doing that
18:41
back and forth, I was like,
18:43
oh, this is really encouraging because
18:45
I think if you can do
18:47
it in a playlist, you can
18:49
kind of do it in a show.
18:51
And because the show... Wow. Yeah,
18:53
and because of the show is
18:55
so heavily influenced by music and
18:57
so much of it is about
18:59
like trying to figure out what
19:01
the soundtrack to a teenager girl's life
19:03
is, that it ended up working
19:05
really well. Like we were able
19:07
to jump back and forth from
19:09
those genres pretty cool and like
19:11
very cleanly, you know. Wow, so you
19:14
basically were vision boarding with music.
19:16
Yeah, vision boarding with music is
19:18
a really great way to put
19:20
it. Like very early on when
19:22
we were storyboarding the show, we
19:24
had a songwriter Brian H. Kim, who
19:26
came on, which isn't very typical
19:28
for shows to have their composers
19:30
come on during pre-production, but Because
19:32
music was so integral into the
19:34
show we had him come on and
19:36
start making demos so that the
19:38
storyboard artists and the editors and
19:40
everyone can Time the song to
19:43
the animatic and that was like
19:45
a really cool process to see
19:47
Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard
19:49
of that kind of processing like
19:51
that that's really unique and I
19:53
think when people watch the show
19:55
they'll see that that kind of
19:57
come out Yeah, I think so. I
19:59
feel like it's funny when you
20:01
were saying that, like the first,
20:03
like two things that kind of
20:05
came to mind was how like,
20:07
integral Scott was, like, as far
20:09
as, having, like, the whole, like, indie
20:12
rock vibe, and then, like, I
20:14
don't know if you guys have
20:16
seen it, but Nick and Nora's
20:18
playlist, like, it kind of, like,
20:20
maybe that kind of vibe as well,
20:22
too, like, like, I like when
20:24
music can be such a, an
20:26
integral part of a production. Like,
20:28
you know, one of my favorite
20:30
games ever is Deaf Jam, Fight
20:32
for New York. Well, Waxman took about
20:34
that later. But that game is
20:36
built off the fact that, you
20:38
know, music is a core part
20:40
of that video game. So, you
20:42
know, having, you said you had your
20:45
your composer come in a pre-production
20:47
to help time and stuff out.
20:49
Like, that's, that sounds incredible, but
20:51
also stressful, but also stressful. Usually
20:53
it is too many cooks and
20:55
there are like of course there were
20:57
ideas we were like that didn't
20:59
work like at one point I
21:01
think Gentry puts on headphones and
21:03
like she listens to her music
21:05
right before she goes into a fight
21:08
and at that point we're like
21:10
oh that's that might be too
21:12
meta like that's a nod that
21:14
we don't need to do like
21:16
that's just a beat that we
21:18
don't need to have like we need
21:20
to make it feel so organic
21:22
that she just like runs into
21:24
battle and everything so I think
21:26
there were ideas that eventually got
21:28
thrown out, but honestly the show was
21:30
so specific. Like I made sure
21:32
that the show felt totally very
21:34
specific in the very beginning, that
21:36
it didn't feel, you know, it
21:38
wouldn't feel like we were just
21:40
like throwing spaghetti at the wall, see
21:43
what sticks. It felt like those
21:45
were really intentional songs that we
21:47
picked and very intentional moments that
21:49
we picked to choreograph to, so
21:51
that was all really awesome. And I
21:53
have to say, because you mentioned
21:55
I think you should leave. Now
21:57
in my mind I'm just thinking
21:59
of a segment based off the
22:01
night the skeletons came to life.
22:03
know that sketch or he's like, that
22:05
was an eye, the skilled just
22:07
came to laugh. From that show,
22:10
anyway. Do you just live on,
22:12
I think you should leave sketches
22:14
like every night before bed? Yeah. And
22:16
also Detroiters, which I think is
22:18
created by the same people. Oh
22:20
my God, I've been watching Detroiters.
22:22
It is so funny. It's so
22:24
funny, but there's so many moments
22:26
where I'm like, the way that they
22:28
do things is like, sometimes I'm
22:30
like, man, I feel so bad
22:32
for this character that they like,
22:34
like the guy that they hit
22:36
with their car. What is the actor
22:39
that plays Ted Lasso? You know
22:41
what I'm talking about? Yes, I
22:43
know, I can't remember his name.
22:45
Is it Jason Sadiq? Is that
22:47
one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they set
22:49
off like a chain of events
22:51
that ruined his life, like hitting
22:53
him with a car, like putting
22:55
a chip bag over his head
22:57
and abandoning him on the side
22:59
of the road. Oh my God, okay.
23:01
I feel like I need to
23:03
watch a show. Yeah. I love
23:05
it so much. So surrounding things
23:07
back, pulling things in. So of
23:09
course, you know, getting a show made,
23:12
that's a monumental thing. It is
23:14
no easy feat. What were the
23:16
biggest challenges you faced when you
23:18
were getting Gentry Chow versus the
23:20
underworld off the ground? And, you
23:22
know, what was the pushback? Like, how
23:24
did you overcome those challenges? Yes,
23:26
I will answer this question in
23:28
a very respectful way and not
23:30
to get in trouble, but I
23:32
think that is, you know, like it,
23:35
so the challenges were that we
23:37
made a very ambitious show, like
23:39
it had all of these characters
23:41
in it, it had all of
23:43
these beautiful backgrounds and designs in
23:45
it, and we had music that we
23:47
wanted to put soundtrack to, like
23:49
needle drop that we wanted to
23:51
include. and we wanted like this
23:53
this this and that you know
23:55
so the reality of it is that
23:57
you at the end of the
23:59
day have to make it all
24:01
work and it has to be
24:03
turned in on time. I didn't
24:05
have like the biggest budget in
24:07
the world for the show like it
24:10
wasn't You know that kind of
24:12
show so I would say that
24:14
like the biggest thing is kind
24:16
of just making sure that we
24:18
it felt very cohesive with with the
24:20
big ambitions that we had, we
24:22
had to scale down certain things
24:24
to make it fit and the
24:26
biggest thing was just like making
24:28
sure that that story worked first,
24:30
I think, like everything else, all the
24:32
flashiness, all of the effects and
24:34
the music and all of that
24:37
is not really going to do
24:39
anything for you if the story
24:41
doesn't come through first. And so we
24:43
were always trying to make sure
24:45
that those characters always really shine,
24:47
you know, there wasn't too overshadowing.
24:49
There was in the very beginning,
24:51
Ed, the main character Ed, who
24:53
was played by Bo and Yang, he
24:55
did such a good job reading
24:57
for his lines and reading for
24:59
his jokes that... you know, everyone
25:01
was like, can we add more
25:03
Bo and Yang lines? Like, can we,
25:06
this nomin is so sad, can
25:08
we add more headlines to that?
25:10
And then it just became like
25:12
the edge show at one point,
25:14
like when we're working on the
25:16
pilot, and so we have to dial
25:18
that back and kind of look
25:20
at the pieces that we had
25:22
and be like, what is the
25:24
most important thing to tell right
25:26
now, like even though it might involve
25:28
darker themes about gender coming back
25:30
to this world, like we need
25:32
to really let that shine and
25:34
let that sit and just trust,
25:36
you know, that it's gonna cook,
25:38
that storyline. So I think that was
25:41
really important to see it through
25:43
and see how the story kind
25:45
of really shines on its own.
25:47
Yeah, and as a creator again,
25:49
like, how do you really advocate for
25:51
yourself in that way? Like, how
25:53
do you, you know, really put
25:55
know like I really think this
25:57
idea is going to work even
25:59
if you know you said like
26:01
the budget had limitations there were other
26:04
pushbacks right how do you you
26:06
know continue to I guess like
26:08
sell your idea this is your
26:10
baby and you still keep as
26:12
much of it as you can but
26:14
you know that like for the
26:16
sake of it you know getting
26:18
on air you have to like
26:20
sacrifice yeah everything is going to
26:22
get trim naturally but yeah I
26:24
mean it really does feel like that
26:26
moment in the king's speech go
26:28
up on a podium and just
26:30
like be like this is why
26:32
I believe in the show and
26:34
there's so many moments where you have
26:37
to do that in front of
26:39
the network and you in front
26:41
of the crew and I'm like
26:43
just rally people together and that's
26:45
not an easy thing to do
26:47
I won't lie like there were times
26:49
where I have to go up
26:51
and be like no this is
26:53
exactly what we want like this
26:55
is you're you're putting too much
26:57
emphasis on the comedy or you're putting
26:59
too much emphasis on like people
27:01
not getting it and they're just
27:04
gonna get it and you just
27:06
you just kind of have to
27:08
put faith in that at the end
27:10
of the day you want to
27:12
make sure it feels really authentic
27:14
and that was my North Star
27:16
like that was like this is
27:18
something that I think is really
27:20
emotional this is something I think is
27:22
and you just want to trust
27:24
your gut in that way. You
27:26
want to make sure that like
27:28
you trust that other people are
27:30
going to like that too. And then
27:33
at the end of the day,
27:35
like they do great. They don't.
27:37
the show still got aired and
27:39
ha ha. We made the thing
27:41
and went out and then like
27:43
the art is for the audience to
27:45
do with what they will. Yeah,
27:47
that's and I feel like that's
27:49
kind of a tough thing to
27:51
deal with too is like once
27:53
you create something and putting out like
27:55
it's it's almost technically not yours
27:57
anymore. So you have to like
27:59
so you have to trust that
28:01
the vision that you had for
28:03
it that you're giving to people
28:05
people people see it the same way.
28:08
a fraction of how you created
28:10
it and they attached to just
28:12
that that fraction of it. Gentry
28:14
trial like you know anime has
28:16
shares a lot of universal themes but
28:18
can also be very fantastical at
28:20
the same time. So you talked
28:22
to you just talked a lot
28:24
about keeping the show as authentic
28:26
as possible but what is it
28:28
like to make sure that this show
28:31
is grounded through all of the
28:33
fantastical like the demon fighting the
28:35
magic the the lure yeah I
28:37
think it so we at the
28:39
very beginning had a saying in the
28:41
writer's room and it was and
28:43
sometimes finding yourself identity is like
28:45
coming face to face with your
28:47
own demons and that's putting a
28:49
theme first and putting a world-building
28:51
element second and the way I mean
28:53
it is by you know saying
28:55
that gentry how her journey is
28:57
that she is trying to find
28:59
her own self-identity. in the very
29:01
beginning we knew that we wanted to
29:04
put that storyline on the back
29:06
of a love triangle on a
29:08
skeleton of a blood triangle and
29:10
that was about making it feel
29:12
like if I was a teenage
29:14
girl and I had these powers I
29:16
don't think I would be like
29:18
Oh yeah, I have all these
29:20
powers and I'm going to show
29:22
everyone who I am now with
29:24
this newfound power. Like I would be
29:26
like, oh no. I did not
29:28
want these powers and now I'm
29:31
going to be like embarrassed by
29:33
them and I'm going to be
29:35
noticed in all the wrong ways
29:37
that I don't want to be noticed
29:39
by. And that's kind of the.
29:41
the emotion of a teenage girl,
29:43
like that's the feeling that I
29:45
wanted us to play with for
29:47
the most part. And so doing that
29:49
uncovered a lot of other things
29:51
like, okay, well, she would want
29:53
to know where those powers come
29:55
from, right? And that dives into
29:57
a theme about family secrets and
29:59
self. in the sense of
30:02
intergenerational trauma and what are the
30:04
traumas that your family is bringing
30:06
on to what are the expectations
30:08
that your family is bringing on
30:10
and making you do and what
30:12
are the expectations of yourself and
30:14
what is the the thing that
30:17
you want to do and so
30:19
that's the constant battle and so
30:21
we again to just throw it
30:23
back to the love triangle line
30:25
that's what the two boys represent
30:27
in the show. One character is
30:29
like this grounded down-to-earth all-American sage-harmer
30:32
boy yeah and then there's this
30:34
other boy who's kind of this
30:36
very alluring like all you know
30:38
seducturous kind of the wild card
30:40
the dark the dark and brooding
30:42
edge lord that says I'm you
30:44
know you without these powers we
30:46
could be perfect like that's your
30:49
dream world so we made sure
30:51
that that felt very real, like
30:53
it's emotions first, it's that storyline
30:55
first of like, this is all
30:57
what's gonna motivate Gentry, and then
30:59
along the way, she's probably gonna
31:01
fight some monsters, you know, like
31:04
that was kind of what we
31:06
thought. one of the benefits of
31:08
animation and one of the cool
31:10
things about animation is how visual
31:12
the storytelling can get. And so
31:14
we took that quite literally and
31:16
we made sure that it felt
31:19
like we were viewing this world
31:21
even though we recognized that it's
31:23
Texas and we recognized like the
31:25
neighborhoods and stuff. We're viewing it
31:27
through Gentry's lens and I mean
31:29
that in a way of like
31:31
as a teenage girl you have
31:34
certain cones of references like anime
31:36
is one of them obviously another
31:38
one is team dramas the other
31:40
one is your Spotify playlist like
31:42
you have so many things that
31:44
you go through your cone of
31:46
reference and you start to integrate
31:49
them so we did that in
31:51
the storytelling visually too like I
31:53
already mentioned the soundscape and the
31:55
track list and the playlist of
31:57
the show is all songs that
31:59
Jennifer would want to listen to
32:01
so we have original music on
32:03
the show but we also have
32:06
these needle drops of like Sizza
32:08
and Vince Staples and New jeans
32:10
like we have that that kind
32:12
of highlights her show like yeah
32:14
highlights her going out going her
32:16
throughout her day but we also
32:18
have like when she meets a
32:21
boy for the very first time
32:23
it's shot like a K drama
32:25
where there's like lots of lights
32:27
and bouquet you know like flaring
32:29
up or when she's about to
32:31
do a cool fight sequence it's
32:33
like this shot like a music
32:36
video where it's like times of
32:38
the beats and everything so that's
32:40
cool There are a lot of
32:42
references that we try to just
32:44
make so authentic to a teenage
32:46
girl into Gentry's experience that I
32:48
think kind of not only showcases
32:51
that in the storytelling, but also
32:53
showcases that in a visual way
32:55
too. Yeah, and when you are
32:57
like a teenager, especially like a
32:59
teenage girl, like that's how life
33:01
actually feels like totally there's so
33:03
many emotions and you know, like,
33:05
yeah, so it's it's super cool
33:08
to like see that play out
33:10
in like the artistic direction like
33:12
you were saying. Yeah, I think
33:14
that you know, we all have
33:16
had that collective experience of like
33:18
being on the back of a
33:20
bus and plugging in your headphones
33:23
and like listening to the song
33:25
and like pretending you're in a
33:27
music video while like the bus
33:29
is driving you home. Yeah. I
33:31
think it's it's literally taking that
33:33
feeling and expanding it into an
33:35
animated series. That's perfect. Yeah, that's
33:38
the elevator pitch right there. Basically.
33:40
This was amazing. We want to
33:42
thank you for joining us today.
33:44
It was so awesome. Once the
33:46
show was off and running, we'll
33:48
have to have you back. Yeah.
33:50
Once I watched the trailer for
33:53
the show, I was like, yeah,
33:55
this is for me. But this
33:57
is also coming from a guy
33:59
that like, that grew up. just
34:01
loving animation like in almost like
34:03
every facet. So I'm like totally
34:05
really really excited to to see
34:08
when new animation enters the space.
34:10
But Gen Tree Child verse the
34:12
underworld is out now on Netflix.
34:14
Please check it out. I
34:16
already said I'm excited to watch it.
34:19
I'm going to watch it. I'm going
34:21
to binge it the first weekend and
34:23
then we will have to have you
34:25
back. Can you give us some plugs
34:27
and let us know, you know, what
34:29
else to watch out for for the
34:32
fans at home? Watch out for, obviously,
34:34
watch the show on December 5th. Preorder
34:36
the vinyl because we're doing a decker's
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going to be a vinyl. Yes, there
34:40
will be a vinyl to make sure
34:42
you pre-order that. And you know what
34:44
like watch all your favorite people on
34:47
the show host endless content from it
34:49
like that's that's really it. Oh and
34:51
I'm in it watch out for that.
34:53
For sure well it was such again
34:55
such a pleasure to have you on
34:57
today we hope to have you on
34:59
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35:02
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36:19
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36:21
going to launch. I just want
36:23
to like dive into it and
36:25
I'll probably have a million more
36:27
questions to ask her because it's
36:30
right of my alley, honestly. I
36:32
love Laura. I've got to the
36:34
point where like when animated shows
36:36
that I really like, I'm like,
36:38
let me not write a thesis
36:40
on this because there's some questions
36:42
that I will just never get
36:44
answered. But that's why our line
36:46
of work is so cool, because
36:48
it's like, oh, I have questions,
36:50
let me chat with the creator.
36:52
Yeah, no big deal. Let me
36:54
ring her off. So I'm super
36:56
excited to watch the show, everybody
36:58
else go do that as well.
37:00
But now, it is time. For
37:02
the recommendations. Recommendations. All right, Charles.
37:04
Charles. Hey Charles. You know Charles.
37:06
Not including stage shows, is there
37:08
a musical anime? Oh, I, this
37:10
is the perfect question for me.
37:12
First of all, because Charles is
37:14
one of my names, so I
37:16
was like, was that right this?
37:18
Was this mean? Was this mean,
37:20
did I do this? Wait, what
37:22
do you mean Charles is one
37:24
of your name? Like your middle
37:26
name? Oh, you know, how names
37:28
work? Yeah. I thought you were
37:30
to sing like aliases. I'm like,
37:32
like, club penguin got a screen
37:34
name, you know. But I think
37:36
I've made it clear on my
37:38
visits that music is very much
37:40
one of my things here and
37:42
outside of here. And I've also
37:44
made it a thing where there's
37:46
a recommendation question I answer it
37:48
with two things because I have
37:51
to cop out. Just how we
37:53
go. In purely like musical terms,
37:55
I would say one piece film
37:57
read is probably the closest you're
37:59
going to get. is so
38:01
good. It's so good. It's like so
38:03
good. Like, yeah. So good to the
38:05
point where I have irresponsibly looked up
38:08
ways to go see Otto on tour.
38:10
Yeah. Because it's so power, power. How
38:12
much money? Yeah, I want to need
38:15
to spend without going dangerously in the
38:17
debt. Yeah. How much of a cruise
38:19
RVs cost? And how can I get
38:22
there? But the other side of this
38:24
that is an anime that is musical,
38:26
the works of Shinitro Watanabe, I mean,
38:29
they just, they hit every time, whether
38:31
it's bebop, whether it's samurai, shampoo, whether
38:33
it's Terran resonance, the genres that are
38:36
covered in all of his works are
38:38
just delightful and you get something new.
38:40
every time and you can rewatch them
38:43
over and over again. You can not
38:45
watch them and just listen to the
38:47
music and be fine. So if that
38:49
is what you're looking for, I would
38:52
highly recommend doing a deep dive into
38:54
the other works of Watanabe for sure,
38:56
which you may not have seen for
38:59
sure. Um, what do I have for
39:01
this one? Afro samurai is, it comes
39:03
to mind, like I talk about the
39:06
show, I talk about the show quite
39:08
a bit. Yeah. But it's very much
39:10
rooted in hip hop culture, more so
39:13
because like the Rizza from Wootankland was
39:15
really involved in making the soundtrack and
39:17
the soundscape for. The Rizzler. No. Sorry.
39:20
I felt the brain rot already. Which
39:22
is, which is, we found out the
39:24
Oxford University word in the ears, brain
39:27
rot. That's awesome. But yeah, Afro samurai,
39:29
like, I think it's like, I know
39:31
I've told the story on the pot
39:33
before, but that was like the first
39:36
anime soundtrack that I like, went and
39:38
like, sought out like it was a
39:40
journey especially because like at that time
39:43
a lot of stores starting to pull
39:45
physical media and I was like I
39:47
have to I have to go find
39:50
this I have to go find this
39:52
and it's probably like still to this
39:54
day one of my favorite soundtracks for
39:57
sure and in another really quick cyberpunk
39:59
edge runners incredible, incredible,
40:01
incredible, incredible sounds right. I mean, just
40:03
the, the, the op with Franz Ferdinand,
40:05
like, says enough, like, it just, like,
40:08
it's amazing. That one's not super music
40:10
coded per se, like, you know, it's
40:12
just got a good soundtrack. It's just
40:14
got a good soundtrack to it that
40:16
really drives the story. Yeah, we actually
40:19
did an interview with Johnny from the
40:21
band Health who had a song on
40:23
in the series and in the game
40:25
right after it was one anime the
40:27
year. I guess it was two years
40:30
ago, where he talks about the journey
40:32
of being a fan of anime to
40:34
being in anime. And it's really cool.
40:36
So check it out on crunch rule
40:38
news. Shame is self-plug. I mean and
40:41
like and I also think I measure
40:43
that by like if the music is
40:45
good enough in a show to where
40:47
I'm like I have to go buy
40:49
the soundtrack like I have to go
40:52
find it like whether CD or vinyl
40:54
like I have to own it physically
40:56
like Edge Runners B-bop Afroso like I
40:58
bought all of those like because the
41:00
music is incredible. So As
41:03
we all know, I
41:05
am a theater kid.
41:07
A long time there
41:09
again. That's a little
41:11
Isaac Menelli moment. But
41:14
okay, so I feel
41:17
a personal attachment to this question
41:19
because I have a large hole
41:21
in my heart the size of
41:23
an anime musical because there aren't
41:25
very many. In fact I couldn't
41:28
really think of any as far
41:30
as like breaking out into song
41:32
like random numbers stuff like that
41:34
I truly can't think of any.
41:36
However the closest you're probably going
41:39
to get and the closest like
41:41
attachment to that genre and style
41:43
that you're going to get and
41:45
have like a good amount of
41:47
content for is idle anime. Yeah.
41:50
Of course. Yeah. Because they typically
41:52
have like maybe one or two
41:54
original songs per episode. I know
41:56
for like Live, they have like
41:58
actual live shows that you can
42:01
go to like concerts and stuff.
42:03
For Oshinoko, season two, it actually
42:05
takes place like the characters are
42:07
actors and they are cast in
42:09
a stage adaptation. Oh wow. So
42:12
you base, but that's, that's not
42:14
a musical though. I think it's
42:16
just like a straight play. So
42:18
that would be my suggestion is
42:20
try to break into some idol
42:23
anime. You know, I think the
42:25
song from Oshinoko was like, one
42:28
of the top performing anime songs
42:30
of the year. Yeah, the biggest
42:32
song in the world. Yeah, it's
42:34
insane. Yeah. And yeah, so check
42:36
that out. I think and there
42:38
are a lot of idol shows,
42:41
not to mention, like, there's a
42:43
lot. Just like. shows that revolve
42:45
around music, like Kayon and Givin
42:47
and, you know, yeah, Bocheter Rock,
42:49
we're like, the characters are creating
42:51
music. I do wish that they
42:54
would lean into like a musical
42:56
thing because like we see the
42:58
success of shows like Hasben Hotel
43:00
that has like this huge cult
43:02
following. That's because I feel like
43:04
the power of animation and the
43:07
power of like theater musicals. like
43:09
one combined they're just like a
43:11
supernova like I feel like they
43:13
it's just such a delicious combination
43:15
like we grew up watching like
43:17
Disney. I think Disney proved that
43:19
formula like to be very very
43:22
very very very very successful even
43:24
to this day like a lot
43:26
of their their animated films you
43:28
know barring a couple are very
43:30
And they're never as fun when
43:32
they're not a musical. Like some
43:35
of them is even like, you're
43:37
like, oh, there's no songs? Oh.
43:39
I'll find a different one. Yeah,
43:41
I'm gonna go watch something else.
43:43
Yeah. That's kind of like, just
43:45
a side-handed. Like, Lee Low and
43:48
Stitch is one of my favorite
43:50
Disney movies like ever. And the
43:52
live action is coming up. I'm
43:54
not about. wrong, it feels wrong.
43:56
Also topical, there's a movie out
43:58
in theaters right now that is
44:01
a musical, that is doing very
44:03
well. Wicked, I haven't seen it
44:05
yet, because I know you're not
44:07
supposed to sing in the theater,
44:09
and I don't know the words,
44:11
but I was going to do
44:13
it anyway. But you're not supposed
44:16
to do that. Alex is going
44:18
to be that guy. He's going
44:20
to be that guy. I couldn't
44:22
shut up about Wicked earlier today.
44:24
I went with a whole group
44:26
of our co-workers to go see
44:29
it. We had, like, uh, Santa
44:31
Mark does like advance ticket nights.
44:33
So we went and saw it
44:35
last week. It was very fun.
44:37
All right, looks like we got
44:39
some additional recommendations to throw at
44:42
you guys. First one is from
44:44
Teresa from our question form. I
44:46
love Kakurio, bed and breakfast for
44:48
spirits. This seems wholesome. Yeah, it
44:50
seems like it'll be relaxing, very
44:52
refreshing. Hopefully it's not something that
44:54
involves truck coon and you get
44:57
to, yeah. I see neckos. Oh
44:59
my god. Next one is from
45:01
David, also via question form. Black
45:03
Clover, sort out online. That time
45:05
I got reincarnated as a slime.
45:07
Michelle Kuttense. So they're
45:10
all peak. And I would agree, to
45:12
a degree. Someone likes an East Akai
45:14
moment as well. Well, I guess we
45:16
did have a debate on whether Sword
45:18
Art Online. And also Black Clover is
45:20
not. Black Clover is not. But slime
45:22
in the showcase, I definitely are. So
45:24
two East Akai buttons, out of four.
45:26
Wait, is it sitting there? I can't
45:28
see it over the left out. Yeah,
45:31
give it a little, yeah. Hard to
45:33
argue with that. Same, same, same. All
45:35
right. Now to
45:37
the second portion of our program,
45:39
it's the mailbag. Open it up.
45:42
Hot and fresh. We got the
45:44
mail, you guys. I thought that
45:46
was gonna be a song. I
45:49
thought you're about to start. There's
45:51
another year. Yeah. I'm still waiting
45:53
for that Invisible Mailman to walk
45:56
in with the bag. Here are
45:58
your letters. I'm not Marco from
46:00
our question form. are you? Who's
46:03
a real Marco? Polo. We've seen
46:05
some sports anime go mainstream that
46:07
follow soccer, basketball, volleyball, etc. What
46:10
sport do you think would be
46:12
a great one to make into
46:14
an anime that could take over?
46:17
Well they already did ping pong
46:19
which to me is so Awesome.
46:21
Yeah. That's so epic. Like, this
46:24
is a perfect time for them
46:26
to remake I Shield 21. That
46:28
was like, yeah. This is the,
46:31
so it's a, it's a football,
46:33
so like, I think, football or
46:35
soccer? American, America, football. So I,
46:38
like, I Shield is amazing. And
46:40
I think it came at a
46:42
time, like, when it got animated
46:45
the first time, one, I believe
46:47
it wasn't finished when the animation
46:49
was going on. But then, I
46:52
think it was also too early, like
46:55
even though we've gotten like slam dunk
46:57
and like Prince of Tennis and stuff
46:59
before that. It just wasn't the right
47:02
time. So I think if I Shield
47:04
came out in the sports anime climate
47:06
that we're in right now, I think
47:08
it would do gangbusters. I would actually
47:11
like to see them kind of dive
47:13
back into some wrestling anime. Like I
47:15
know they've... They've had a couple, like
47:18
Tiger Mass W, like there's there was
47:20
a Tiger Mass series before that too,
47:22
but it's also very niche. And then
47:24
I know the Ultimate Muscle just came
47:27
back, but I still feel like it
47:29
hasn't. There's still like a, there's still
47:31
something not quite there that it hasn't
47:33
like. That hurdle hasn't been jumped yet.
47:36
So those are my two, for sure.
47:38
All comedies, right? All the wrestling anime
47:40
are kind of common. Ultimate Muscle is
47:43
a little more on the comedic side.
47:45
And it's weird because it's like, because
47:47
wrestling at its core is very comedic.
47:49
Right. It has sense of humor, yeah.
47:52
But then at the same time, like
47:54
I feel like it doesn't really match,
47:56
you know, kind of some of the
47:58
serious like plot points with wrestling. And
48:01
it just, yeah, it did okay, but
48:03
I think it also was like, probably
48:05
not as popular state-side, because Tiger Mask
48:08
is a legacy, like, New Japan character,
48:10
and it's like a mask that gets
48:12
passed on to like different wrestlers, and
48:14
they play that character, and that's very
48:17
nuanced. So I think if there was
48:19
something that was a little more. geared
48:21
towards like the American style of wrestling,
48:24
but like maybe have some sensibilities from
48:26
like the other like foreign promotions I
48:28
think that could work Yeah, and it
48:30
would go well with the storytellers that
48:33
that tie into American wrestling where it's
48:35
the pageantry Yeah, exactly the play I
48:37
mean it's kind of Taylor made for
48:39
a show for sure. It is a
48:42
show. wrestling is just soap opera for
48:44
men. So it's like, that's literally where
48:46
we are, not saying it's men and
48:49
only watch it. But like that's how
48:51
it's been described for a really long
48:53
time is that it's soap opera for
48:55
men. So I think it's, I think
48:58
it would be, it would be time
49:00
for like an anime like that to
49:02
come up. I was gonna say curling
49:05
just to troll. Yeah, there's a... One
49:07
is called sweep, one is called orange
49:09
delivery. But so
49:11
yeah, it exists. Maybe something, I don't
49:13
know, what's like a really like crazy
49:15
out there sport? I don't see. Bob
49:18
sledding? It exists, but I don't, what
49:20
does it need to go over the
49:22
edge and get people hypes on curling?
49:24
Yeah. Like I was thinking in no
49:26
slight against Prince of Tennis at all,
49:28
but like I think we're primed for
49:30
another extreme kind of tennis. I think
49:32
so. I think so. I mean even
49:35
like hockey, there's a hockey manga that's
49:37
been going on for about a year
49:39
called Dogs Red. So maybe this is
49:41
kind of the time that you know
49:43
we see kind of like hockey kind
49:45
of make its its way into the
49:47
sports animates like guys. So yeah, I
49:49
think there's a couple options on the
49:52
table there. Like I don't think there's
49:54
really any like weird ones. Give me
49:56
break on the anime. No! Body building
49:58
would be one too. I was just
50:00
going to say, I literally was like,
50:02
I didn't want to interrupt you so
50:04
I quit talking but I was going
50:06
to say, where's the body building one?
50:09
Yeah. There's a... Or like weightlifting. Like
50:11
that would be crazy because that's a
50:13
fun Olympic sport. I don't remember the
50:15
name of the show that's on Netflix,
50:17
but there's like a like a... I
50:19
think it's a Japanese show where it's
50:21
like a... They follow like a group
50:24
of like Japanese bodybuilders like this. It's
50:26
God. I don't remember what it's called,
50:28
but it reminds me of like, Mom
50:30
Psycho, like body improvement. So I think,
50:32
yeah, space for that. I would say
50:34
like professional shooting, but that's pretty much.
50:36
any anime with a weapon like, it's
50:38
all like competitive shooting like impossible shots
50:41
like in and being able to dodge
50:43
bullets and stuff like liquor or streak
50:45
oil. Well, thank you so much for
50:47
writing in I'm not Marco, but if
50:49
you guys want to send us a
50:51
question or comment or recommendation, a couple
50:53
ways you can do it. Spotify. Uh-huh.
50:55
Apple music. The YouTube. The YouTube. And
50:58
then the telegram. Right. A telegram. A
51:00
pigeon. But then also our handy to
51:02
any question form. So it's got dot
51:04
C-R slash anime questions. Again, that is
51:06
GOT.C-R slash anime question. Yes. And not
51:08
the anime effect question. Please. No. It
51:10
will just anime. It will not work
51:12
for you if you put the. Well,
51:15
I think that's. everything for today. This
51:17
is a fun episode. I'm still going
51:19
to be thinking about these sports for
51:21
a while. I know, I'd rack my
51:23
brain with it. Because I know there's
51:25
a sport there that hasn't been done
51:27
that we're missing. And I'm going to
51:29
come on the show when I get
51:32
back in a couple of weeks and
51:34
be like, yes, this one. And then
51:36
everybody's going to just like, we're not
51:38
talking about it. Or even just like
51:40
some experience. Like, I think that's always.
51:42
time for, unfortunately,
51:44
so Lee, why don't
51:47
you take us
51:49
out? you take us brother. yeah,
51:51
brother. you for joining
51:53
us for another
51:55
episode of episode of The Anime
51:57
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