When Elio and I last teamed up for the Patreon exclusive episode about Stannis (which you can check out by pledging 10$ a month, which also unlooks other special episodes!), Elio mentioned that he’d like to talk about Cersei next. So naturally, I followed up on this, and today we’re going to dive deep into the weeds and talk all about the greatest queen of them all, at least in her imagination.

The discussion boils down a lot to the question of nature vs. nurture. Is Cersei just this really evil, really bad person? Or was she made that way? Going from that foundation, we talk about her marriage with Robert and the deep question of who was more toxic, we talk about Westerosi patriarchy in general, we talk about Tywin’s parental abilities or lack thereof and of course how this all needs to be put in perspective through Westerosi-tinted glasses.

However, that’s not all, of course. We also have an extended conversation about how Cersei was changed from the books to the show, how she raises her kids and what differences she makes between Joffrey and Tommen.

We close this off by discussing what’s in store for Cersei come “The Winds of Winter”.

By the way, not only can you find this episode on Patreon as well, but if you pledged one or more dollar a month, you get access to a lot of bonus content and, most importantly, got to listen to this episode a week earlier. Just in case you’re thinking about pledging and needed an additional reason, y’know?

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