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#559: A Camera Named Pot Roast

Released Thursday, 20th July 2023
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i think that sums it up doesn't it

1:56

yeah that's been our day so far pretty much

1:58

it yeah the

3:59

different side to Mark.

4:02

His wife, Excelli, on the other hand,

4:04

was remembered as a vivacious and caring

4:07

woman. She was a loving mother and

4:09

a dedicated wife. Their relationship,

4:12

like many, had its shares of ups

4:14

and downs. Some reports suggested

4:16

their marriage was fraught with tension and

4:18

the arguments between them were not uncommon.

4:21

However, to most outsiders, they

4:24

seemed like any other couple just navigating

4:26

the ebb and flow of marital life. So

4:28

it was the summer of 1999. And normally a serene atmosphere

4:31

falls

4:33

on to Barry, but it was shattered

4:36

when Excelli disappeared without

4:38

a trace. This

4:39

vibrant, caring woman was

4:41

suddenly gone and her absence

4:43

was felt deeply within the close-knit community.

4:46

Mark reported his wife's

4:48

disappearance, claiming that they had

4:51

a big fight at home, a

4:53

heated argument. According to Mark, she had stormed out of

4:55

the house on that fateful night

5:04

in August and did not return home

5:06

and hadn't since. She left behind

5:09

her car, her personal belongings,

5:12

and most notably their young son. Mark

5:15

said that the marital spat had

5:17

escalated and that had led

5:19

Excelli to leave looking for some space

5:21

to kind of clear her head. Yet to those who

5:24

knew her, especially as a devoted mother,

5:26

the idea of her leaving behind her child

5:28

for an extended period seemed a little

5:31

out of her character. The

5:33

inconsistencies between Excelli's

5:36

known behavior and the circumstances of

5:38

her disappearance, of course, according

5:40

to her husband, raised some eyebrows. Furthermore,

5:43

there was no evidence to suggest that she

5:46

had planned on leaving. All of her personal

5:48

items were there, her car remained at the

5:50

home, there were no significant

5:52

withdrawals from the bank account. So

5:54

to the authorities,

5:56

Mark's account of Excelli's

5:58

sudden departure began to change.

5:59

appear less like a wife taking

6:02

a break after a marital dispute

6:04

and more like a crafted narrative designed

6:06

to explain her abrupt absence.

6:09

Was his story just that she went for

6:11

a walk and didn't come back or

6:13

was he saying that

6:14

she took off? He was saying

6:16

she took off. Oh okay. But with no

6:18

signs of her and the inconsistencies that

6:21

began creeping into Mark's story, the investigation

6:23

began to shift and the spotlight

6:26

started to turn onto Mark himself.

6:28

As the investigation progressed, investigators

6:32

noticed inconsistencies in Mark's statements.

6:34

He was unable to provide a clear

6:36

and consistent timeline of events

6:38

leading up to Xcelie's disappearance.

6:41

Now this is something you're really good at when we're watching

6:43

Forensic Files.

6:44

Aw thanks.

6:46

You follow the timeline meticulously.

6:49

Oh yeah, she said that but then how

6:51

did the spray paint end up there? I remember

6:54

that episode. These

6:57

inconsistencies coupled with the mounting

6:59

circumstantial evidence started

7:01

to paint Mark, not as a worried husband,

7:04

but a suspect in his wife's

7:06

disappearance. Another thing that further

7:09

raised investigators' suspicions

7:11

was Mark's personal life. Post-Xcelie's

7:15

disappearance. Rather swift turn of

7:17

events, surprisingly Mark began

7:19

a romantic relationship with a new woman

7:22

shortly after his wife went missing.

7:24

Well that's not of course a definitive

7:26

sign of guilt. Of course not. His

7:29

actions were seen as unusual for

7:31

a man whose wife was supposedly

7:33

just missing.

7:34

Right, it wasn't that if the

7:36

narrative is she's still out there

7:39

and you were with someone else.

7:42

Suspicious. It wasn't long

7:45

before police began to connect the dots.

7:47

At the time of her disappearance, Mark, here's

7:50

where it gets weird, Freaks.

7:52

Mark had arranged and overseen

7:55

a funeral for an 89-year-old

7:57

woman named Marjorie Hutchinson.

8:00

and it was a closed casket service.

8:03

Mm-hmm. A detail that would later

8:05

raise some suspicions and questions

8:08

by investigators. Following

8:10

a hunch that the evidence gathered

8:12

so far, the police theorized that Mark

8:14

had exploited the situation to hide

8:16

Exelie's body. In a shocking act

8:19

of sacrilege, authorities believed that

8:21

Mark had placed Exelie's body in the same

8:23

casket as Marjorie Hutchinson, and

8:26

then had buried them together.

8:28

Oof. Now,

8:30

if that was true,

8:32

this desecration would turn the solemn

8:34

resting place of a person who

8:36

was innocent of all crimes into a crime

8:39

scene itself, and the sacred act of burial

8:42

into a means of concealing a murder.

8:44

Can you imagine being that family, too, and

8:46

you get a phone call and it's like, oh, hey. So...

8:52

Yeah, here's the thing. And

8:54

that's what happened. They called the family. Regarding

8:56

Marjorie, rest in peace, she

8:59

can't because we

9:01

have some digging to do. Yeah. There

9:04

might be somebody lying on top of her

9:06

or under her. We're not sure yet. Backed

9:09

by a court order, the police preceded

9:11

the grim task of exhuming Marjorie

9:14

Hutchinson's casket. As reported

9:16

by the Orlando Sentinel, this process

9:18

was handled with the utmost care

9:20

and reverence.

9:21

Conducted by a team of forensic experts and

9:24

seasoned investigators who understood

9:26

the weight of their duty.

9:29

On that somber day in September, they

9:31

delicately unearthed the casket,

9:34

the air heavy with anticipation. The

9:37

casket, its serenity disturbed,

9:39

was gradually brought to the surface. Every

9:42

detail was meticulously observed.

9:45

Every movement

9:47

cautiously performed. They were aware

9:49

that each step was as critical as the evidence

9:51

it might expose. So they get

9:53

the casket to the surface, and

9:55

they take it to a secure location,

9:58

and

9:59

they opened it.

10:00

As they expected, they found the remains of

10:02

Marjorie Hutchinson.

10:04

But there was also a second body, Exilie

10:08

Villella. Their hypothesis,

10:11

as shocking as it was, had proven to be accurate.

10:14

Now, did this guy just not perform

10:16

a lot of burials? Because

10:19

how did they know that it was Marjorie's

10:21

grave? It was the timing of

10:23

Marjorie's funeral. Got it. It was a closed

10:25

casket affair. So their hypothesis

10:28

was correct. Exilie's body was

10:31

concealed within the same casket as Marjorie,

10:33

buried deep within the Earth. This

10:35

act left even the most seasoned

10:38

investigators stunned. The tragedy

10:40

of Exilie's disappearance had morphed into

10:43

not only a murder case, but also

10:45

a tale of profound desecration

10:48

and deception.

10:49

I guess if you're willing

10:51

to kill someone, you know, pop in their

10:53

body in with someone else, really isn't that big of

10:55

a deal. No.

10:57

And the fact that he had access

10:59

to all of the things to make that

11:01

happen, it's not surprising

11:03

that investigators started to look at,

11:06

let me see if we have any closed casket

11:08

funerals at about the same time period.

11:11

Right.

11:12

But the discovery of her body marked just the beginning

11:14

of a new intricate phase, the autopsy,

11:17

as reported by the Orlando Sentinel,

11:20

the medical examiner's office faced the

11:22

daunting task of piecing together the circumstances

11:25

of her death from a silent narrative that

11:27

her body offered. Is that

11:28

too flowery? Did you get like

11:31

a thesaurus recently? I got a thesaurus. I did. I

11:33

got a thesaurus. What's

11:36

another word for thesaurus?

11:39

Is there another

11:39

word for this? Wordbook. Synonym

11:43

book. The autopsy report

11:46

was as revealing as

11:48

it was chilling. The medical

11:50

examiner determined that she

11:52

had been the victim of a violent attack, suffering

11:55

fatal stab wounds in her back.

11:56

Oh my gosh. It's

11:59

brutal finding cut through any.

11:59

lingering hope that her death might have been an accident

12:02

and he just overreacted. Yeah. The

12:04

report indicated that the stab wound

12:06

was inflicted with a significant

12:09

amount of force, severing one of Exelie's

12:11

ribs. In fact, this finding,

12:13

of course, suggests a level of anger and

12:16

intent that's consistent more with a personal

12:18

attack as opposed to

12:20

just sort of, you know, a

12:23

random attack. It also

12:25

sadly revealed that Exelie was

12:27

pregnant.

12:28

Oh. At the time of her death,

12:31

heartbreaking revelation.

12:33

The combination of these findings, along

12:36

with the circumstances surrounding Exelie's

12:38

disappearance and the subsequent discovery

12:40

of her body, pointed to,

12:43

well, an accusatory finger to Mark, obviously.

12:45

Yeah. His inconsistent narratives

12:48

and the swift start of a new relationship

12:51

and, of course, all of the evidence and the

12:53

timing of Marjorie Hutchinson's

12:55

funeral. It added up.

12:56

So it was he had a new lady

12:58

in mind and then found out that she was, his

13:01

wife was pregnant. Is that what happened? It's

13:04

unclear what the exact motive was. It

13:06

could have been a combination of all those things. The

13:08

one thing that he did say to authorities

13:11

was that he wanted a divorce

13:14

and didn't want to pay for it.

13:16

Oh, wow. So I guess one

13:18

could theorize that he had

13:20

this other relationship going. He

13:23

wanted out of that relationship, but he knew

13:25

it was going to cost his ass. That's just

13:27

speculation on my part. So

13:29

armed with this damning evidence, they arrested

13:32

Mark on October 1st, 1999. He

13:35

was charged with first-degree murder

13:37

in what now has become a very morbid

13:39

tale of love betrayal. And it's

13:42

a disturbing misuse of trust. His

13:45

trial began later in 2000,

13:46

in the year 2000. The

13:49

narrative that emerged with all

13:51

of the evidence presented to convincing

13:53

a case. Everything was too consistent, too compelling.

13:56

All of the evidence pointed to a guilty

13:59

verdict.

13:59

imagine this trial was closely watched

14:02

at the time the jury found Mark

14:04

guilty of first-degree murder. The once

14:06

trusted funeral director was now a convicted

14:09

murderer. His horrifying

14:11

actions casting a shadow on a little

14:13

community that we love to bury us is

14:16

a nice little town. I

14:17

can't imagine it took the jury long either

14:19

because no wow it did not.

14:22

It reached its anticipated conclusion

14:24

in late 2000 after deliberating the

14:26

mound of evidence the jury made up of men

14:28

and women from the community. Well

14:31

they found him guilty of first-degree murder and

14:34

he was sentenced to

14:37

life in prison with no possibility

14:39

of parole. In the end it's

14:41

a fitting punishment for a man who had not only taken

14:44

a life but had desecrated the

14:46

solemn rituals of death. His actions

14:49

had transformed a place of respect

14:51

and remembrance into a crime scene causing

14:54

a ripple of pain through the community that

14:56

they'd struggle to forget. My sources

14:59

the Orlando Sentinel they covered this

15:02

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15:04

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been listening for a long time and catching up

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on the latest episodes. This is the first time

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I've sent in an email but the shadow people

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topic really struck a chord with me.

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When I was a child, my grandmother performed

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a quote, exorcism on my

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addict, addicted to most

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back in her head and she was speaking

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gibberish. My father's body

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was trembling from I'm assuming

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the exorcism. I was told to get

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a glass of water for him after it was done.

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I was coming back in to the hallway

19:26

and I saw a figure that stood

19:28

to the top of the ceiling. It had

19:31

to duck because it was so tall.

19:33

Oh my God. It had what looked like

19:35

armor on horns from his shoulders

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and on his head. Its feet

19:40

were backwards and its face was

19:42

distorted with what looked like a human face

19:45

with its skin removed and only muscles

19:47

were exposed. The figure turns

19:50

to me, put its hand up in a shushing

19:52

gestured smile. And

19:55

proceeded to walk back into my

19:57

father's room. I screamed

20:00

and yelled that someone was in the house. Fast

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forward a few years, I developed severe

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sleep paralysis when I would have sleep

20:07

paralysis almost every night for a year

20:09

or two. That figure was the same

20:11

figure that would show up every

20:13

time. Smiling and

20:15

giggling while moving around my room

20:18

where I couldn't move, but watch in

20:20

horror as this thing had free

20:22

rein to do what it wanted.

20:24

It calmed down for a few years

20:26

after that.

20:28

And then sometime in my teens, one

20:30

night was extremely bad. The

20:32

figure came up to my bed from my

20:35

feet. I could feel its hands as

20:37

it climbed up my bed toward my face.

20:39

Oh my God. I can still see its

20:41

face and horrible smile in my

20:44

head as I write this.

20:45

It proceeded to laugh

20:48

and rub its hand on my face like a mother

20:50

would its child.

20:52

I still remember that it smelled of

20:54

decay. It's hot breath smelled

20:56

of rotten eggs and the breath was

20:58

as hot as if it was coming from an open

21:00

oven door. I think

21:02

you did an episode on sleep paralysis but

21:05

I can't remember if I listened to it or not.

21:07

But the shadow people struck a chord with me and

21:09

gave me shivers and I'm still shivering

21:11

writing this.

21:12

I'm currently 32 and I'm

21:14

still scared of that thing even to this day.

21:17

Well, yeah. There are more memories

21:19

of this thing but I don't wanna take too much

21:21

of your time. Thanks for everything that you

21:23

two do and the deep dives

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and the weird disturbing facts that you bring

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That

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seems like a weird pastime. The TV,

24:03

silly. But in fact, homes

24:05

all along the village's main street,

24:08

the Via Mare, were experiencing

24:11

really strange events. Air conditioners

24:14

burst into flames. Kitchen

24:16

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Did the state puff marshmallow man

24:23

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Only Zu. It's a Sanskrit. I'm

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I know, you did a great job. Thanks. On

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December 23rd, 2003, the New

24:47

York Times reported about the series

24:49

of puzzling electrical shorts. Unexplained

24:52

fires and smoky outbursts

24:54

drove 17 families from their

24:57

Canito, Italy homes when they

24:59

were set ablaze. Wow. Canito

25:01

was a village and civil parish on

25:03

the Italian municipality of

25:06

Coronia in Sicily. These

25:08

fires were unique because they seemed

25:11

to ignite spontaneously

25:14

without any apparent source of ignition.

25:16

The phenomenon captured international

25:18

attention

25:20

and led to various theories and investigations.

25:22

Certainly unusual behavior for a major

25:25

appliance. At the time, some

25:27

villagers speculated that the fires

25:29

were caused by supernatural or

25:32

paranormal forces. Others believed

25:34

it was a result of extraterrestrial activity

25:37

or electromagnetic interference.

25:40

And why wouldn't they? At least one

25:43

resident claimed he saw his unplugged

25:46

air conditioner cord start to fizzle

25:49

and burst into flames.

25:50

Okay, okay, yeah, ghosts.

25:52

And as the days went on, it seemed to get

25:55

worse. Fires were starting spontaneously.

25:58

Kitchen appliances shorted.

25:59

computers, electric

26:02

door locks were rattling, cell

26:04

phones would ring when no one was calling,

26:07

even in cars, door locks and

26:09

windows were up and down and

26:12

up and down.

26:12

What the hell? Now, more grounded

26:15

theories suggested that the fires were

26:17

caused by a combination of factors

26:19

including electrical malfunctions, possibly

26:22

some sort of methane gas emission

26:25

and possibly arson. But the largely

26:28

Roman Catholic population was pretty

26:30

sure something else was going on. Mr.

26:32

Pizzino, quoted in the New York Times,

26:35

said, "...whoever believes in the good

26:37

believes in the bad. I'm Catholic.

26:40

I believe in the devil and I don't know why

26:42

the devil is here."

26:43

Why would the devil show up

26:45

in Italy and mess with people's car

26:47

locks? Mostly he was just starting fires.

26:50

I see. Well, okay. Maybe the fire

26:52

park, but I don't get it with a door

26:54

lock thing. Well, then you could carjack

26:56

someone or steal their change. Okay.

27:00

Or their bag full of

27:02

makeup and camera named pot roast.

27:04

That was your personal

27:06

experience. It was. It was a sad

27:09

time. I love the fact that you named your camera

27:11

pot roast. Sad

27:13

that the pot roast got stolen,

27:15

but... Pot

27:16

roast was returned though. Oh, that's

27:18

right. Yeah. In my bag

27:20

with my makeup that had been used and

27:23

a handful of loose blueberries. It was

27:25

a very weird time.

27:26

I had

27:29

forgotten about the details involved

27:31

in that case. I was wearing heels.

27:33

Otherwise, I know for sure I would have caught

27:35

that guy. Anyway, what

27:37

made the situation... Wait, wait, stop for just

27:40

a minute though. Let's go back to the camera

27:42

named pot roast. This reminds

27:44

me of the names that you give your animals

27:46

on Stardew Valley.

27:48

Yeah.

27:52

Let's talk about some of the names of the creatures on

27:54

your farm in Stardew Valley. I have

27:57

several animals and a lot of them have really...

28:00

nice name. So I'm not sure I have a cow named 1877

28:02

Cars for Kids. I have a chicken named

28:07

Doorknob.

28:08

I like that. Thank you. I have a pig named

28:11

Fart. Is it any wonder I love this woman?

28:14

Is it any wonder? Anyway, back to

28:16

your story, sorry.

28:17

What made the situation intriguing was

28:19

the persistence and frequency of

28:21

the fires, despite the efforts

28:24

to prevent them. There were more

28:26

reports of appliances like washing machines

28:28

and refrigerators bursting into flames

28:31

even when disconnected from power

28:33

sources. The

28:35

fires also affected furniture and

28:37

other objects, including a room full

28:39

of wedding gifts. This led

28:42

to the evacuation of some residents

28:44

and the deployment of experts to investigate

28:46

what was going on. A telecom

28:49

expert brought in told the press

28:51

that electrical wires that spontaneously

28:53

combust would have telltale markings

28:56

at their cores. Upon his own investigation

28:58

though, he claimed that the wires weren't damaged

29:00

due to a malfunction. Hmm.

29:02

Multiple scientific investigations

29:05

were conducted involving experts

29:07

in engineering, physics, and other

29:09

fields. Mayor Pedro Spinato,

29:12

together with Italy's Federal Emergency

29:14

Management Agency, evacuated the

29:16

residence to a hotel in a neighboring village,

29:19

the city of Palermo, paid to keep

29:21

the residents housed and fed. As

29:23

a practical matter, the scientists

29:26

took notes, they mapped, the strange occurrences,

29:28

they used Geiger counters and interviewed

29:31

witnesses, and collectively

29:33

the suggestion was an abnormal

29:36

increase in the electrical field. But

29:39

what was the source? The

29:43

first three months of 2004, residents reported 92 fires. It was

29:45

so dire that the

29:48

country's

29:51

electrical company cut power to

29:53

the village. This would, according to

29:55

some, allow officials time to regroup

29:58

and clean up while getting to the bottom.

29:59

of this, but it didn't stop the fires.

30:03

This is where the honorary president of

30:05

the International Association of Exorcists

30:08

comes in to the story.

30:09

I didn't realize there was such an organization.

30:13

The Guardian reported that that

30:15

man claimed there was only one explanation

30:18

for the fires.

30:19

The priests of the parish ought today

30:22

to go and bless all the houses that

30:24

have witnessed paranormal phenomena because

30:27

that is what they are.

30:28

Clearly something mysterious is going on

30:30

here, but in this case I wouldn't

30:33

jump immediately to the devil.

30:35

Now he said what is happening is

30:37

what normally happens when

30:39

the devil enters the lives of those who let

30:41

him in.

30:41

My mind goes more to

30:44

secret government experiments causing

30:47

huge surges in electromagnetic

30:49

energy.

30:50

That is one of the leading

30:53

theories that it did have to do with

30:55

government experiments.

30:56

Excellent. Yeah. I love it when I'm right.

30:59

Some residents though claimed that there was a connection

31:01

between the fires and the train schedule.

31:04

There's a train that goes from Palermo to

31:06

Messina and it goes through this

31:08

little village and the tracks run

31:11

behind the town's only road and residents

31:13

said that when the train roared past

31:16

the fires became more frequent.

31:17

So the fires lined up with the train

31:20

schedule? Can I tell you

31:22

how satisfying that is

31:24

to me? I bet it is.

31:26

Oh. However, despite extensive

31:28

efforts, no definitive explanation

31:30

was found for the fires of Canito di

31:33

Corona. One possible explanation

31:36

is that the intense pressure beneath the

31:38

crust of this volcanic region

31:40

of Sicily led to underground

31:43

movements releasing electrical energy

31:45

that eventually reached the village. According

31:48

to scientists, when these highly charged

31:50

ions interacted with manmade electronic

31:52

devices, sparks might have been generated,

31:55

particularly

31:56

due to the village's proximity

31:58

to transmission lines.

33:59

the village and on March 5th, 2015

34:03

Giuseppe Pizzino, the son

34:05

of Nino Pizzino, was

34:07

taken into custody.

34:08

No! Yeah, his

34:10

father was also the subject of investigation

34:13

regarding their involvement in starting

34:15

the fires. What?

34:17

Investigators concluded that the Pizzino's were

34:20

deliberately setting the fires in order to obtain

34:22

government assistance. Now it's worth noting

34:24

that Giuseppe was never arrested or charged

34:27

for the initial fires

34:29

that started in 2003. So do you think that this was

34:31

kind of a

34:33

copycat thing? I do.

34:36

Yeah, well they saw that they could get government

34:38

assistance. Yep. And then the fires

34:40

stopped and they stopped getting government assistance.

34:42

Yep. Might as well start them fires up again.

34:45

Since the cause of those fires remains

34:47

officially unknown, they are still labeled

34:49

as unexplained. And

34:51

it's been years now. Yeah. Wow.

34:54

Yeah. Great stuff, sweetie. Oh,

34:56

thank you. I really appreciate

34:58

you. I get my information from all that's

35:00

interesting, the Telegraph, and

35:02

the New York Times.

35:04

Well, as we record this, it

35:07

is Saturday the 15th. Tomorrow

35:11

we head from Cuenca, I mean from

35:13

Guayaquil to Cuenca, which is up

35:15

in the Andes, and that's the last

35:18

leg of our trip. It's going to be so exciting

35:20

to kind of unpack all of these suitcases.

35:22

Everything we have is in storage or

35:25

in five suitcases that we brought.

35:27

And I, because of some

35:29

weird things that happened in our last days

35:31

in our apartment, I was not able to

35:33

help pack these suitcases. So

35:36

really, I have no idea what I brought

35:38

to Ecuador.

35:39

Well, I did most of the packing

35:41

because of, like you said, the unforeseen

35:43

circumstances. That again

35:45

is another story that we will tell. We'll

35:47

update you on everything coming up in the next episode

35:50

or two. Some of it you're just not going

35:52

to freaking believe. Anyway,

35:55

look forward to that and we'll see you next time.

35:57

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35:57

for being on this journey with us and

35:59

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