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when we were speaking with their manic
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you know what i mean i
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was bonding with the customization
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yes and once i said it said did have visions
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of visions of levy
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ah the old odometer if you know what i mean
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he looked at me knowingly and any said yeah
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i hear that body
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that didn't happen he said you can go
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oh maybe i was imagining all of that
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yeah i was delirious from the long flight
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that way i wish you had bonded so i
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could have left to their yeah
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anyway so i've got a story for you please
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tell me a thing okay something
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strange started happening
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the neighborhood on know in the desolate
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prairies of the united states
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in the late eighteen hundreds strange
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phenomenon was little
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understood the time but it terrified
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those who would settle that land
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it was known as prayer the madness
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so prairie madness
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seem to come from nowhere and from everywhere
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at the same time on the great plains
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in the mid nineteenth too early twentieth
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century people who are known to be kind
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and patient and otherwise
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genuinely pleasant to be around with
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suddenly change sometimes
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, changes were not small
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sometimes they were very dramatic
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people that were once gentlemen softspoken
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would become violent with rage
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and it would seem to com from
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the planes themselves often
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times prairie madness wouldn't would
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come on subtly manifesting initially
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as like kind of like depression
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or a certain degree of melancholy
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the mormons yeah the more herbs week we
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call it often times that's as far as
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it would gulf but more often than not it
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would spiral downward from there
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and it seemed to be epidemic
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there's plenty of evidence and historical
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accounts and surveys that show
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a rise in cases of mental
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illness in the mid nineteenth into
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the early twentieth century particularly
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in this area in the great plains of the united
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states journalist
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eugene small he wrote in
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the atlantic and eighty ninety three
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quote stories have surfaced of
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formally stable people being
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turned depressed anxious
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irritable and even violent
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by prairie madness and the alarming
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level of madness is occurring is
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occurring new prairie states among farmers
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and their wives
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this is curious i'm interested
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story began to trickle back to the
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east coast of strange goings on
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in the great plains one story was
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a young families or consisting of
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a husband and wife they had three children
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the family left st louis to homestead
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in the great plains great plains eighteen eighties
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and by all accounts they were kind
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god fearing people shortly after
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settling a tract of land
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depression began to city and on both
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the husband and wife soon the husband
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would disappear for days at a types
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and when he'd come back he would be covered with
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wounds often times bleeding
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it was said by those who witness
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this city could be seen
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on his land swinging land acts
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as if selling trees that no longer
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where there aren't mine early
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one morning he murdered his entire
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family with that axe he
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then set the cabin on fire and burned
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himself allies
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the give his and all work and no play cancer
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to way
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the beginning i was as i was reading
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this i was beginning to think exactly that's
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there are many accounts of other extreme
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cases of prairie madness that resulted
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suicide the what was
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the cause of prairie madness there
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was much speculation that it
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had to do with restless spirits
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of indigenous peoples who were displaced
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from their land my first thought would be
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the isolation of moving from
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your friends and family in a saint
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louis to the planes
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were it's just you and
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your say family while you're onto something even
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though some people thought they attributed
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it to a curse of some
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sort now we know prairie madness
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was most likely connected directly
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to the homestead act of eighteen sixty
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two this act would give a person
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one hundred sixty acres of prairie
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land if they could live on it and
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make something out of it within a five
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year period farms of the homestead
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act had to be at least a half mile apart
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however many works much much
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further than that might save get families
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living on a hundred sixty acres of
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land the next farm which
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is a hundred sixty acres could be miles
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away the settlers had to be completely
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self sufficient and they were extremely
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isolated completely cut
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off in many ways you would
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rarely see a neighbor let alone any towns
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towns really were more like oust posts
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that were set up along the
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railroad tracks and each one
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was at least twenty miles apart part
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of it would take more than a day to get
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to the town to market goods
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and most people rarely saw the town's
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frequently usually it was just the
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man who would go to town
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and interestingly the highest
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incidence of prairie madness afflicted
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women so clearly isolation did
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play a big part in in prairie mad
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this directly and also indirectly
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since it was so difficult to get
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to town if a child fell sick
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they frequently died and this added to
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the trauma and the stress
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and the anxiety the living
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on the prayer
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now did you decide to
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do this story because someone said
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said i've been
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in weird since we moved systems
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know but that was strange what was that on twitter
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somebody said they what what was as they said
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the been missing since the beginning and
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is that there is a market change
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in my demeanor since we moved
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to flora that's interesting yeah
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i'm so cat comes to me and says have
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i changed in the past year and i said
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well you're a hell of a lot happier some
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he was sick maybe that has something to do in
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, to the isolation whether contributed
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the harsh weather in the environment of the great
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plains included long cold
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winters often filled with intense
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blizzards and then summer would come
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along and it would be very short
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and hot hot the wintertime the
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great plains would seem even more
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deserted than they did in
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the summer time there were few trees to
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begin with what few plants
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they could see would die in the animals
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would disappear they would go into hibernation
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are just hold up for the winner settlers
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would be stuck in their cabins often
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under several cabins often of snow
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for days at a time so certainly
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all of these things contributed to
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what is called prairie madness
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but now we're learning that there was something
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more the garden center
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is always are just sit it's never
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lupus and it's always are guys who me
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atlantic article from eighty ninety
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three their job their talked
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about talked few moments ago they touched
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on that on that bit quote during
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the winter during the winter the silence
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of death rests on the vast landscape
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in nellie mcclung story
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the neutral fuse a manitoba settler
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rights a poem about the groaning sounds
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of the plane quotes i hate the
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wind with it's evil spite
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in it hates me with the hate is deep and
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hisses and years when i try
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to sleep see a
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paleo anthropologist with
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state university of new york made alex
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diva lee's studies the evolution
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of human hearing evolution of made him wonder
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if there was any truth to the idea
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that the wind on the prairie drove people
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mad i know like in
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and these stories that we've read about
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third yet love pass were as
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they say that the arrangement of
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the mountains lead to a kind
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of swooping when deck created
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a sound right it literally can drive
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you bananas yeah it's at a frequency
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that it's or triggers a psychosis
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in some people same on the plane in i
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thought the exact same thing while his study
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was recently published in historical
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archaeologists and it suggests
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that the eerie soundscape of the great plains
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probably did contribute greatly
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to the rise of mental illness in
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settlers back and that day a
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combination of the deathly silence
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and the howling wind certainly
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did affect them and that's not
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surprising because research in modern
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subjects clearly demonstrates
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that what we hear can exacerbate not
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only sleep stress and mental
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health issues but even cardiovascular
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disease and type two diabetes
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wow cardiovascular disease makes
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sense but
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if we get a yeah ah thank so
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believes was interested to find out the with
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anything unique and special about the prairies
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soundscape at least a prairie
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a bad day and obviously he can't
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jump at a time machine and
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go back to gather that sort of
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data so he collected contemporary
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recordings of the planes in nebraska
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in kansas these recordings
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captured the sounds of the wind
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in the rain and just the natural soundscape
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steve then also recorded
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urban sounds from cities like
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mexico city and barcelona which
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also featured whether sounds like rain
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and so on and so forth but also
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the hum of traffic and pedestrians
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he then said then recordings into a
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computer program that creates visual
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representations of the spectrum of sound
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frequencies that the human ear can
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here and any compared the to
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him this is confusing but interesting
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what he discovered was that all of
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the soundscapes recorded contained
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plenty of different sounds that humans
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would be able to hear naturally but the sounds
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from the city were more diverse there
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were so many sounds and they spread
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sounds evenly across the range of human
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hearing that it produced something
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akin to white noise right
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however the sounds from the prairie a
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little to none of that background
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noise in the sounds the did
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exist and exist sounds the did exist
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coincided with a particular sensitive
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part of the human hearing range that
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the brain recognizes more noticeably
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the said quote the way the
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can describe it is it's very
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quiet and then suddenly you
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hear a noise and then you can't
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stop hearing stop noise you can't
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you anything but the noise
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flake when it comes
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the required but then you discover that there
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is a single cricket you're in your home
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that's exactly right he he said it was
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it something like being in a are
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are extremely quiet library and
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somebody introduces into that library
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a flock of geese now
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yes that's yes that's every
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sound on the prairie every cricket every
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drop of rain every chicken clock
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becomes horribly disdained
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to either stories about dot
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the sensory deprivation chambers
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of rooms that they've designed to stop all
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echoes it's the most perfectly
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acoustically designed room mates
14:19
or that does sound of your blood slowing
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yeah you can hear ya up spending
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too much time in an environment like
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this can start to drive you mad or
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even the smallest sound like you mentioned blood
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coursing through your your veins or or heartbeat
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or even the russell of your clothing
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can be impossible to ignore adrian
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casey li is an auditory brain scientist
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at the university of washington he says quotes
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being adaptive is really for
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survival now if you adapt
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to a low sound environment
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in all of the sudden there's a allowed
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sound coming on of course it's gonna
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give you trouble the idea that
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the great plains are so flat with
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limited vegetation and and certainly
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few buildings in those days the wind
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blowing through certain areas of the great
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plane could have produced unique
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frequencies of sound that could trigger
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psychosis much like the doubtless
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pass that you that you mentioned earlier
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and there's also been speculation more currently
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that the changing soundscapes caused
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by the most recent pandemic due
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to lockdowns and the transition
15:23
to working at home at effects on
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the physical and mental wellbeing of people
15:28
as well you know we call it
15:30
becoming stir crazy or
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crazy cat and see rehab and see that movie
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was ras in the end we don't
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know for sure but it certainly seems likely
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that there was something in the soundscape
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of soundscape great plains in the late eighteenth and
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early nineteenth century that small
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he referred to in now his atlantic
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article from eighty ninety three as silence
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and mcclung referred to it is that hateful
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wind affected the minds of
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minds settlers that were isolated and
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alone on the great plains in those
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days my source information, a fascinating
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article in atlas, obscura, written
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by james gaines, also, wikipedia
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of oddities okay your turn
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yup vocal saw was born
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in france and seventeen at o
22:50
nine he was the tenth
22:53
child of a glove maker now
22:56
he is started out as out as young person
22:58
at wears an interest in mechanics
23:01
and started fixing watches as
23:03
a child which is the coolest thing
23:05
and i think that's one of the reasons why we
23:07
need to encourage boredom
23:09
and children because if
23:11
your kids are busy all the time they're
23:13
never gonna discover that they like
23:15
fixing watches right i would just
23:17
like to come from a long line of gloves
23:19
makers right is that they
23:21
weren't really well off because
23:24
as you can imagine it's hard to support
23:26
a family of like twelve i'm
23:29
glove make when you have to admire
23:31
their style though
23:32
israel yes i win at the
23:34
zoc was a boy he aspired to become
23:37
a clockmaker i'm new unfortunately
23:39
his father died at the age of seven
23:41
not as feather he was seven when his father dead
23:44
be weird if is the other way around and he was
23:46
sent to a monster the for schooling
23:48
zoc family sent him to study under
23:50
the jesuits and later joins
23:52
the order of the menem's in leon
23:54
there are roman catholic religious
23:57
order as friars and
23:59
he
23:59
what will live this can be my
24:02
purpose you know and since he came
24:04
from family without a lot of money it
24:06
made a lot of sense to go ends you
24:08
the religious group where
24:10
he the have then the freedom to
24:13
do he and mechanics and as
24:15
an aside time i see at
24:17
the age of just eighteen
24:19
zoc was given his own workshop
24:22
in leon when a local
24:24
nobleman became his patron and
24:26
set him up to make machines
24:29
so cool right that was
24:31
his art and he found a patron
24:33
for his art of machines which
24:35
is just so neat and us in
24:37
that same year seventeen twenty seven
24:40
there was a visit from at some of
24:42
the governing heads of the
24:44
minutes so this group of friars
24:46
that he wanted to be a part of and as
24:48
he had joined on the highest
24:51
came to visit him and since he
24:53
had this workshop he thought in the
24:55
hidden in his little fanciful kind of ways
24:58
that he would create something for
25:00
their visit he came up with these
25:02
automatic machines that
25:04
would serve or a few
25:07
the friars was okay
25:09
yeah like an automatic yes
25:11
really exactly as he
25:13
also figured it out so that they could clean
25:15
up the table after i mom was finished eating
25:18
that's just the coolest thing i mean can
25:20
i just once again point out this is seventeen
25:23
twenty seven and he's come up with a monistic
25:25
auto matt i'm so similar
25:27
has be despots however
25:30
one of the officials
25:33
declared that see
25:35
interests and creations
25:37
of the were profane
25:41
and ordered that his workshop be
25:43
destroyed profane role
25:45
same the guy created an automatic
25:47
i know ass zoc was disappointed
25:50
as you can imagine am withdrew
25:52
from the order leaving the monks behind
25:54
him why wouldn't she because here's the thing
25:56
is that you're incredibly skilled at
25:59
that brings joy
25:59
the to you and others and
26:02
they're like know
26:02
if profit
26:06
in knocking anyway so
26:09
zoc went to patty n in
26:11
his name's it sounds like it belongs there anyway and
26:14
with so in paris he studied
26:16
medicine and anatomy and
26:18
he was encouraged and supported by the
26:20
priests and finance or samuel
26:22
bernard he was one of the wealthiest man
26:24
in his time also during this time
26:26
shop met claude nicola
26:28
like cat who was a friend surgeon
26:31
who had a knack for sharing his interests
26:33
in science now look had shared
26:35
his interest in biology and anatomy
26:38
and with that zoc heads exists
26:40
renewed and funded
26:42
interest in machinery and ideas
26:45
really started to bubble a few
26:47
years later zoc built the
26:49
flute player it was a lot size
26:52
figure of a shepherd
26:54
that played the flute
26:55
was not a robot it's like
26:57
a robust a robot flutist
27:00
yes i'm trying to come up with some sort of
27:02
jani joke by did nothing's coming
27:04
to me any less the
27:06
a mechanical yawning
27:08
yeah he would build to look like marble
27:11
and then it had it mechanisms for
27:13
every tiny muscles that would be
27:15
involved in the task of playing the flute
27:18
including tongue muscles
27:20
of iran move the air
27:22
from top to bottom
27:24
wow
27:25
the intricate set of pipes and bellows
27:27
any ottomans han could quote unquote
27:30
breeze to control air flow
27:32
through the flute he then had
27:34
a little bit of struggle with the fingers
27:37
a hitting the the holes on the flu which
27:39
i know have names but i did not
27:41
think to look it up held just now
27:44
how he covered the fingers
27:46
with a soft glove like skin
27:49
and i have to think maybe her dad being a glove
27:51
maker a kind of charade india that young
27:53
either way the the autumn upon could
27:55
play twelve different melody
27:57
see if if i had come up
27:59
with this ah on autumn a crime
28:02
that head down working tongue muscles
28:05
and glove like skyn it
28:07
wouldn't be for playing well maybe
28:09
it would be yeah nevermind ah
28:12
just know i would never go outside that sir
28:15
to reset plan
28:16
the early seventeenth thirty eight he presented
28:18
his creation to the academy of
28:20
sciences and they were much
28:22
more excited than those for
28:24
there's were
28:26
the academy judge the machine extremely
28:29
ingenious and praised both the intelligence
28:31
of the creator and his extensive
28:33
knowledge of mechanical parts now
28:36
, there were some musicians who
28:38
pooh poohed it and and of course
28:40
i think the idea was like well it can't
28:42
play like we can play well
28:45
and now it's a machine and
28:47
it's the seventeen hundreds what's wrong
28:49
with you and that they were
28:51
worried they were going to be displaced spray
28:54
flute playing robots said the equivalent
28:56
of the self checkout concerns
28:58
and the real issue
29:00
that they had was that the lips
29:03
couldn't form around the
29:05
flute in the right way and so
29:07
it kind of that shrill yeah
29:09
that eighteenth century robot music
29:11
is a little we'll see how embarrassing
29:16
so
29:18
they were pretty successful and zoc
29:20
decided to build a second automatic
29:23
on this one is a tambourine player
29:25
or while building his own band yes
29:29
but this guy had a reports
29:31
hey of twenty tunes though
29:33
he really is no an anonymous but
29:35
at the time mechanical creatures
29:38
were gaining popularity in europe
29:40
most could be classified as toys
29:43
the things that zoc a vocal
29:45
saw later to be known as jacques
29:48
de vaughn com saw were
29:50
making word nowhere near
29:52
at toys they weren't it anything like
29:54
toys they were mechanical
29:56
masterpieces and people
29:58
it could benefit
29:59
now this is the part of the story that
30:02
we get to that's the story vital
30:04
to the thing that i wanted to talk about us
30:07
is you wanna take a break for a map the airport
30:09
tomorrow fourteen is always prepare
30:11
okay
30:12
when york
30:14
created the death of catering dot i
30:19
love this guy i mean he had
30:21
me at robots loudest but a
30:23
deprecating doc
30:25
this is the moms
30:27
masterpiece the
30:29
gold plated life sized sitting
30:31
duck the digesting
30:34
dot is zoc most
30:36
popular and then sense it was it was
30:39
doc inspired by the carts
30:41
idea that animals function
30:43
a lot like i'm a scene he was
30:45
an incredibly detailed duck he
30:47
sat on an enormous base housing
30:50
the mechanics he was life sized
30:52
and constructed of hundreds of parts
30:55
covered in perforated gold plated
30:57
copper to allow a view of the
30:59
workings inside
31:00
ha
31:02
this dot had over four hundred
31:04
moving parts
31:05
in each weighing
31:07
wow he could slap it's when
31:09
he could drink water
31:12
the eat poets offered to it's
31:14
and then after quote digestion
31:17
poop them out the other end now
31:20
though just creation supposedly
31:22
demonstrated digestion accurately
31:24
the deck actually contained a hidden
31:27
compartment of quote unquote digested
31:29
food so with the duck was
31:31
defecating was not the same as what it a
31:33
yeah that is when i i suspect
31:35
it is much she was a little trickery for
31:38
sure but it's still a got the point across
31:40
he saw how it was happening
31:42
in the engine the outs and all that
31:44
rise yeah
31:45
ah my
31:48
the bread crumbs and green
31:51
dye that will come on out the back and
31:53
looked a lot like that poop snow
31:55
well done so august even
31:58
though dd the digesting it
32:00
may seem like another frivolous piece
32:02
of entertainment for the board wealthy of
32:04
the time the day i just
32:07
in dot that was credited for inventing
32:09
the world's first flexible rubber
32:11
tubing and that actors and
32:13
ducks intestine
32:15
i think of it as the
32:17
of entertainment where the
32:20
elites and the masses yeah
32:22
back in those days i wonder if it
32:24
had the same sort of social impact
32:26
that vcrs did when when
32:28
they were first introduced oh yeah people would
32:31
go over to somebody's house he's got he's
32:33
got one of them poop and docs was
32:35
scored his place watch it well
32:37
then how have come to the same area to
32:39
watch the pooping that because i'm
32:42
there was just the one just one yeah no
32:44
i know it's same speaking wait
32:46
we just bought a vcr it's very exciting
32:48
time in the
32:50
wall top household the mechanical
32:52
that was a smashing success and
32:54
zoc would end up touring europe
32:57
with his creations voltaire
33:00
memorably observed in seventeen
33:03
forty one that without the voice of
33:05
lot more and von call saul
33:07
doc you would have nothing to reminds
33:09
you of the glory of fans
33:12
wow yeah explain take a second
33:15
and absorb that moment he
33:17
apparently zoc at tired very
33:19
quickly of his creations and he sold them
33:21
q a few entrepreneurs from
33:23
leon and seventeen forty
33:26
three and they toured with them
33:28
for nearly a decade showing them throughout
33:30
europe while and apparently
33:32
need quite a pretty penny doing
33:34
some on
33:35
fortunately there were
33:37
several instances that led
33:39
to the destruction of all three
33:42
of these amazing creations
33:44
the dot com burned in a museum
33:46
fire in poland
33:48
in eighteen eighteen
33:49
and both the musical automate hands
33:51
were destroyed the beginning of the nineteenth century
33:54
now after this whole
33:57
flutist tambourine death mon
34:00
the job , to move
34:02
on and thing we we the fifteenth as
34:04
just appointed him as inspector
34:06
of silk manufacture he
34:09
was hoping it to rival the
34:12
english and scottish silk that
34:14
was very popular at the time and
34:16
so he was like well let's get this incredible
34:18
machinist guy on the
34:20
case right and case right did
34:22
shock had several improvements that
34:25
were adopted by the silk industry and
34:28
most importantly one of the labs
34:30
that
34:31
the created i don't know anything about manufacture
34:34
but anyway this it ended up being very
34:36
important to the industry
34:37
i'm so he was a can just sell
34:40
a so skilled in so many different
34:42
ways and
34:44
yeah let's not forget about the flexible rubber
34:46
tubing right
34:47
i think about every time that i have cleaned
34:50
assists tank and how much more difficult
34:52
that would have been without flexible rubber tubing
34:54
amen sister
34:55
thank you i got my information from
34:58
atlas obscura history mesh
35:00
dot
35:01
com research gate a
35:03
p s news and of course with
35:05
a pdf
35:06
i just want to say i want to make it completely
35:09
clear uh-huh any time
35:12
you have a story about a devastating
35:14
robot i'm in yeah
35:17
i thought maybe oh yeah oh yeah yeah
35:19
what's funnier than robots and poop
35:21
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35:23
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35:25
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35:28
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35:54
we just had a wonderful opportunity
35:56
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35:59
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35:59
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36:02
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36:07
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yeah she's so cool she's so
36:17
cool and , also
36:20
recorded the a voice over for
36:22
a national toyota commercial no big
36:24
deal yeah so fancy
36:26
meanwhile i took half a bottle of imodium
36:31
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36:33
didn't finish so i
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