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Welcome to today's edition of The

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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast.

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Welcome back. Everybody's second hour

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of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Sexton Show underway. Now, Well,

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I've been talking a lot about elections. It is decision

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day in Wyoming and

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the Alaska at least primary

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decision day, and Alaska has kind of a weird

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primary. But yeah, Liz

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Cheney's about to get the boots.

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So that's good news. He's gonna get tossed out

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of office here soon. She richly deserves

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it. But there's another

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election process of sorts

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that has occurred that we wanted to bring

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to your attention here. As

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you know, we've been all over the progressive

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prosecutor issue really

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for as long as we've been on air together, because

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this has led to a massive

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increase lib lunatic

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prosecutors who just think, let criminals go

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free. The criminal justice system is racist.

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Just don't even lock people up, don't even

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charge them. One hundred arrests, no big

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deal, must have had a bad day a hundred

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times in a row. It's

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resulted in less safe cities, It's resulted in more

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people being murdered, rape, robbed, assaulted.

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We all see it, we know it. The numbers

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all back it up. And some

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of the worst offenders in the progressive

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prosecutor pantheon are

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the former now DA

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of San Francisco, chess At Boudan, Brag

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Alvin Bragg in New York City, Kim

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Fox in Chicago, and

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Gascone of Los

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Angeles. Now there is a recall effort

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underway, has been a

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recall effort, I have to say, underway

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to get rid of Gascon in Los Angeles, after

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the successful recall effort to

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get rid of Boudan in

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San Francisco, and unfortunately

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the recall effort has hit a little snag clay.

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There's so much going on here. This is so interesting,

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isn't it. To get a recall

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measure on the ballot for the upcoming

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election, you needed to

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have five hundred

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for the partition. This is from the LA Registrar

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County Registrar. Five hundred and sixty

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six thousand, eight hundred and fifty seven signatures.

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Now they had over

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seven hundred thousand

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signatures to recall Gascone,

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but we just find out today

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that only five hundred and twenty thousand

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and fifty signatures were found

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to be valid one hundred and

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ninety five thousand, seven hundred

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and eighty three signatures they

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have said are invalid. Now

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this is I've seen the reasons. There's

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all kinds of stuff, and we can get into some of

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the what the basis is for alleged

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basis for removing these

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signatures may be, but Clay,

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a lot of people are pointed to something right now. It's really

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interesting. What percentage

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of men in ballots in the twenty

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twenty election were rejected

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in Los Angeles County less

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than one percent, basically

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none. What percentage

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of signatures to get this

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Gascon recall recall on

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the ballot were rejected almost

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thirty percent. It's about mathematically

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a sixty x when you add it

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all up. For every one signature

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from a mail in ballot or from a mail in ballot

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in general, for every one that was rejected

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in twenty twenty, sixty signatures

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were rejected in the Gascon effort. I

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have a feeling at best here

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they decided to get a whole lot more strict

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with the rules when it was their

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guy who wanted the strict rules.

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Yeah, and also the

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idea of a written recall

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effort feels really

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antiquated to me in

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a modern era right where you're sitting

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and looking at re signal signature

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and all of these right, we had massive

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issues in Michigan with

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a lot of the people who wanted to be on the ballot

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in Michigan. Now Tudor Dixon ended up being

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the nominee. I spent a lot of time up in

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Michigan and was talking to people about this, But

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they had a bunch of people

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that they thought were going to be leading Republican

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contenders for governor that weren't able

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to get these signatures validated. It

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just seems like it's messy, doesn't it. I

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mean, when you're talking about almost two hundred thousand

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signatures being rejected, you're

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almost to the point now where whatever ballot

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measure you're trying to advocate for needs

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to get twice as many as the minimum

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number in order to feel like you even

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have a chance to get on the ballot itself.

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And getting gascone

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out in LA is

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something that cuts across partisan lines

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in a substantial way, much

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like we saw what happened down in San

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Francisco with CHESSA Houdin, and you didn't mention him,

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but Philadelphia, I mean, we've talked

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a little bit about then, Larry

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Krasner. Philadelphia is

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on pace right now for the deadliest

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and highest level shootings

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that have ever existed in the history of Philadelphia,

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and a lot of it is being pointed at

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Larry Krasner as the reason. And certainly

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if you're listening to us in Los Angeles now,

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I've been fortunate gotten to spend a lot of time in LA

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over the years. I really liked the city of Los Angeles.

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But my goodness, the amount

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of health and safety and danger that

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has changed in the last decade in LA

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is pretty significant. And we haven't talked much about

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it, Buck, but they're having a big mayoral

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election in Los Angeles and

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that's really kind of being divided in many

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ways along political lines, even

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though both of the final

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two, if I remember correctly, are both

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Democrats. One of them was a long time

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Republican developer who is now

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saying, hey, I'm a Democrat as well. Karen Bass

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is on one side. And what's the guy

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who's going to beat Karen Bass? Hopefully? I

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mean, I think he's the more more

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rational and reasonable of the LA

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mayoral candidates, and it would be a big win. And

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he's actually been endorsed by

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a lot of a

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lot of the people who are just fed up

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in Los Angeles with the collapse that they've seen

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there. There's a big point of hypocrisy

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here as well, because in the Gascone

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recall effort. Now Gascone is up

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for reelection in twenty twenty four anyway,

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and it is looking very unlikely

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that he will be reelected

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because even Democrats realize, Look,

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I think I sent you a photo of it this morning.

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Play. I mean, I live in midtown

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Manhattan. I live within

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a stone's throw of Time Square, right in the heart

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of the city, and I walk

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out my front door and there are used

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needles and drug baggies fifty

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feet from the from the front door. I mean, this is

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just what happens when you decriminalize

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open air drug usage. When when all of a sudden,

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shooting up heroin and broad daylight in front of children

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on a crowded street is no big deal.

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You see a lot more of it, right, And when you

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don't prosecute people that

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are gang members

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and have you know, multiple felonies already

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on the record, you don't give them a stiff sentence,

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they end up shooting somebody. And that's what's

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happened in Krasner's Philadelphia. You know,

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there were twelve people who were

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shot Friday night alone in Philadelphia.

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And I know people say, well, some weekends there's you

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know, thirty or forty shot in Chicago.

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Well it's one night, and Philly is a

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fraction the size of Chicago. Philadelphia

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is going to end up having one of the highest murder rates

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in the entire country. And it all

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coincides with Kami

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lunatic Krasner being the

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prosecutor who comes in and just says, prosecuting

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criminals feels racist to me, which,

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by the way, that that sentiment, I would

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argue, is completely insane,

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right, because what you're effectively, what

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you're claiming with all of this, is that the disparate

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impact of prosecution, somehow

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you never take into effect the disparate

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impact on the communities where

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this violence is occurring. You know,

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are you going to side with the

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ninety nine percent of minorities

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who are law abiding or the one percent

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in certain communities who are not law

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abiding? Right? But for Krasner, it's an easy

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decision. He's made that decision and

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this is what we see. We see it. It's spirally

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out of control. Well, let

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me clear this up to LA. May

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or. Race is going to come down to Rick

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Caruso, who is a

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former developer, billionaire and

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former Republican and he's going up

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against Karen vast So that's the decision that La

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is going to have to make. To your point on Philadelphia

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and the allegations Larry Krasner

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would toss out that policing is racist,

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I think you destroy that argument with one

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analogy, and I think it's a good one that I would

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encourage everybody out there. There's my men and women violent

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thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's true. As

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soon as you ask somebody say, okay,

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it's racist here because fifty people

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who are going to being arrested for violent crime or

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black and they only represent twelve percent of the population.

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Whatever it is, say, okay, ninety

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seven percent of the people that are being arrested

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for violent crime in America regularly,

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certainly well over ninety percent in every community.

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You know what they are mail? Is it sexist

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that police are police waging war

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on men by arresting men

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wildly er percentages than

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their percentage of population. If you took

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the left wing view on this the

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the what's the word where

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misogyny is hating women? Andrew? Is it? No?

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Not? It's uh, miss, what's

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the word for hating men? I'm blanking on right

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now. I don't even know it's

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there is a word, and I think

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it's androw something or other. I'm forgetting right

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now. But anyway, if you took

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the left wing argument about criminal justice and race

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to apply it to gender, what you would

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you would you would go through all the same iterations. You'd

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say, there are so many men who are in

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prison u for crimes

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they didn't commit, and women get off

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for murders all the time. This is what

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has often said, right and they would say,

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or miss Andrew, I'm not sure how Miss Andrew was

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like, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, And

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there are so many men who

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are in prison who who are innocent, and beyond

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that, we should just let a lot of men who are murderers

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out of prison, because clearly

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it can't be true that there are more men committing

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murders than women. Therefore, let's

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just empty out the prison population of

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murderers and see what happens.

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That is the argument that the left has engaged in

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just with race instead of gender involved.

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And you know, you see this playing out

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with kras and you see this playing out with Gascombe.

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But just another thing, clay on the process,

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the recall process, and how

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I mean here that they're saying things like I pulled

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this up so I could see exactly the

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reasons they got rid of a

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lot folks. Almost two hundred thousand signatures

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found to be invalid, right not registered.

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Max number of times signed different an

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address, different address,

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thirty two thousand. That's that's

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close to being the margin. You

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know. How you know there were thousands of people who voted

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in the wrong county in Georgia in the twenty twenty

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election and their votes were counted,

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and they don't they don't seem to care. Molly

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Molly hemingway over the Federalists that excellent work

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on this. They just figure, well,

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they basically should count because people's

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votes should count. So we're just going to ignore the rules.

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Notice, the left becomes hyper focused

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on ways to use integrity

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laws about elections or anything else when it's to their advantage,

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and when it's not to their advantage, those

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laws are racist. Yeah,

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and it's systemic racism,

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not just racism, systemic racism. So

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I would ask all of you out there, the next

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time you hear maybe it's your kids, maybe

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it's your grandkids arguing the criminal

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justice system is systemically racist, just

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set them down and say is it also systemically

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sexist? And then walk through

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that argue with them and see

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what their reaction is, because a

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lot of times when people play the systemic

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racism card, they expect because

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there is a fear in your

12:10

racist If you question anything

12:13

that has to do with systemic racism allegations,

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just say, yeah, you know what, In addition to being

12:17

systemically racist, I think

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our criminal justice system is systemically sexist

12:23

because men are overwhelmingly

12:25

going to prison and it's

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not fair. And just see what the reaction

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is. Why are police so sexist?

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Why are they consistently arresting

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men and not arresting women?

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And in order to balance things out in society,

12:40

should we just arrest fewer men for violent

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crimes? Should we just Look,

12:45

it's not fair. Clearly men aren't just committing

12:47

more violent crimes than women, The

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argument goes, so we should just arrest

12:52

fewer men for violent crimes.

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This is the argument laid bare for everybody.

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here shortly I believe by

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oh shortly, as in right this moment.

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Look at that. It's like magic, Clay, I just

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will it into existence. There you go. We

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have Kelly Shabaka with us now. She's running

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for Senate up in the great

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state of Alaska. Kelly, thanks

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for calling and appreciate you making the time. I know it's a big

14:29

day. I'm so happy

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to be with you, and thanks for making time for me.

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So tell us about what everybody, not just

14:36

across the country, but certainly in

14:38

your home state of Alaska's We've got a great Alaska

14:41

audience listening to this.

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What do they need to know about why

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they should go with you as the

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real Republican here over Lisa Murkowski

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as the fake Republican. Maybe I just gave too much

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away, but go ahead. I

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think you just summed it up. But here's

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like three top reasons. Number one, we

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need someone who is going to block all

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those Biden nominees that are harmful

15:04

for Alaska. Instead of having

15:06

a senator who's confirmed nearly all

15:08

the radical nominees, including

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those leftist environmentalists who are

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working to shut down our state and

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pursue the energy annihilating agenda

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that's killing our fossil fuel industry

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and driving up gas prices. Number

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two, we need a senator who

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isn't bought and paid for by dark

15:26

money from DC insiders and

15:28

radical environmentalists and big tech. Instead,

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have a senator who represents our Alaska

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voices and won't be bullied, silenced,

15:35

and controlled by the DC insiders.

15:38

And I'd say number three, we need a

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senator who doesn't say one thing in Alaska

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and do the opposite in DC, and

15:44

instead votes for what's in the best interests of Alaska.

15:47

Like right now, Senator Murkowski says

15:49

she supports our Second Amendment

15:51

interests, but then she goes back

15:53

to DC and works with Joe Biden and the

15:55

Democrats to vote for red flag laws and

15:58

she loses her NRA endorse and

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votes for gun control. Well, we love our guns

16:03

up here. We have to look both ways when we walk out our side,

16:05

our door to see what Grizzly Bear is coming. So

16:07

we need a senator who just talks straight. Claire,

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I told you about the grizzly bears everywhere.

16:12

They really are everywhere. We're talking to Kelly Shabaka.

16:14

She is a candidate for Alaska

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Senate. All right, so explain.

16:19

Buck and I were trying to make sense of this

16:22

ranked choice voting system. And

16:24

obviously we are borderline

16:28

intelligent on this issue, and that's probably an exaggeration.

16:31

We don't really understand it that well. So

16:33

today, is it right that there

16:36

will be four people who advance

16:38

to the general election? And

16:40

if you are people are listening

16:42

to us right now and they are big supporters of yours.

16:45

What's the best way to vote both now

16:48

and in November from a ranked

16:50

choice perspective. I

16:52

can break it all down super simple. Today,

16:55

vote Kelly, and in November vote

16:57

Kelly number one. Leave the rest of your ballot

16:59

blank. Your ballot will not be disqualified,

17:02

you won't lose your vote. And this is what's

17:04

actually happened. Project Veritas

17:06

just exposed undercover videos

17:09

that leaves the Murkowski colluded with her

17:11

campaign staff to deceive

17:13

Alaskans and manipulate this

17:16

change in our election system, so she'd

17:18

have some kind of a limited

17:21

chance of being able to maintain the forty

17:23

one year Murkowski monarchy. They

17:25

hand down our Senate seat like a birthright,

17:28

but it doesn't belong to the Murkowskis.

17:30

It belongs to Alaska. So

17:32

what we're doing is fighting to get our Senate

17:34

seat back in the hands of Alaskans.

17:36

She wouldn't win this primary. If it was a party

17:39

primary, her career would be done today, but

17:41

instead she wants to drag it on to November, and

17:43

I'm confident we're going to retire her. The

17:45

way that we do that is we vote Kelly number

17:47

one in November. If we get fifty percent

17:50

on round one, we win. Otherwise, what happens

17:52

is Number four drops off, Number three drops

17:54

off. Their subsequent votes go

17:56

and get resorted into person one.

17:58

In person two, it'll be head to head between

18:00

me and Lisa Murkowski. But I'll tell you

18:03

I've talked to thousands of Alaskans. Even common

18:05

sense Democrats are supporting us because they

18:07

can't line up with Joe Biden and Lisa Murkowski.

18:10

So I think we're gonna win this. We just have to wait to

18:12

November to do it. Okay, Kelly, that's important

18:14

because a lot of people out there listening to us

18:16

right now are used to Republican primaries

18:18

and Democrat primaries. If you were running

18:21

against Lisa Murkowski today for

18:23

the Republican nomination in Alaska,

18:25

you would trounce her. Right, That's

18:28

absolutely correct. She knows it. I know

18:30

it. The data shows it. That's why she

18:32

had to manipulate a change in the election

18:34

system so she would survive. We're

18:37

speaking to Kelly Shabaka. The

18:39

primary is today in Alaska. She's

18:41

running for Senate there, and

18:43

Kelly, I see, you're a Harvard lograd

18:45

from two thousand and two. Very impressive, by the way,

18:49

the decision by Murkowski

18:51

to vote to impeach Donald

18:54

Trump and to maintain

18:57

that she is a Republican. Who did this? What

18:59

do you think he calculation was? Like? Who

19:01

was she trying to please with that one? What game

19:03

was she playing? So

19:06

when you look at her rhetoric and the thing

19:08

she's done, I think she has a personal vendetta

19:11

against Donald J. Trump, whether he's

19:13

a president or whether he's just a citizen. The

19:16

fact is it's not a constitutional to impeach

19:18

somebody who is no longer holding office as

19:21

president or in any position in the government.

19:24

It's just a personal vendetta for her. But

19:26

Lisa Rakowski can't really hold herself out

19:28

as a Republican when she's voting

19:30

with Chuck Schumer twenty percent more often

19:33

than she votes with Ted Cruz, and when she's voting with Joe

19:35

Biden seventy percent or more of the

19:37

time, she's often that tie breaking

19:39

vote on nominees or on legislation

19:42

for Joe Biden. Just saving Kamala the walkdown

19:44

Pennsylvania Avenue. We all know up

19:46

here in Alaska that she's not a Republican. Our

19:49

Republican party has actually censured her and

19:51

removed her from membership. The only people

19:53

who are still pretending she's a Republican really

19:56

is Mitch McConnell. And we can't figure out

19:58

why because up here in Alaska, she

20:00

looks like a Democrat. She talks like a Democrat,

20:02

she walks like a Democrat. Her campaign is run

20:04

by Democrats and funded by Democrats.

20:07

That makes you, uh, that's right, a Democrat.

20:09

She's wondering, Kelly, that's

20:11

what it is. Sarah Palin's running in a congressional

20:14

race up there. Any thoughts on that one? Just you

20:16

know, she's somebody who really put Alaska

20:19

on the national political maps on years ago,

20:22

any any thoughts at all that

20:24

one's going to be a tight race. So though that's

20:26

to close and finish our vacant congressional

20:29

seat from when our congressman passed

20:31

away earlier this year, and that one's going to be decided

20:33

today. And she has a very

20:35

tight race with another Republican who has been endorsed

20:38

by our Republican party. So we'll

20:40

see what happens up here. They're

20:42

splitting the vote and then there's a Democrat

20:44

in that race, and that's the ring choice election,

20:46

So we're going to see how that plays out today. She's got

20:48

a lot of support, but so does her challenger,

20:51

her Republican challenger. We'll see what happens.

20:53

Kelly. You got a law degree, is Buck just mentioned?

20:56

I do two, and we've

20:58

talked a ton about this more lago

21:00

raid by the FBI. What

21:02

was your reaction when you heard it happened.

21:06

You know something that Buck and I share in common

21:08

is our background in national security.

21:11

I spent over a decade doing oversight

21:13

of THATBI. I come from the watchdog

21:15

world, so not only

21:17

from my pass as a recovering lawyer,

21:20

but my past as doing oversight of the FBI.

21:22

This is very disturbing. We're seeing

21:24

that there's violation of the equal

21:27

treatment of law, and we're seeing a

21:29

concern here. At least we need to ask questions why

21:31

they didn't use least intrusive means,

21:33

that's our Fourth Amendment protection. We

21:35

need to ask why didn't they have just enforced their subpoena

21:38

to ask for documents instead of going in

21:40

with a warrant and invading a home

21:42

and flipping over things and looking in face

21:44

and people's clothes. These are the kind

21:47

of questions we need to ask because it looks

21:49

like a politicization and weaponization of law

21:51

enforcement against political enemies and opponents.

21:53

And you're not doing that against other people

21:55

who are political friends and allies. And

21:58

that's concerning. So it's time for Congress

22:00

to ask some hard questions. It's time to

22:02

hold DJ and FBI officials accountable,

22:05

and there's lots of ways to do that. Kelly,

22:07

good luck today, good luck in November. I'm sure

22:09

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22:11

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22:13

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22:16

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24:04

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24:06

Alex Berenson. Alex, when

24:09

we were having you on last year and you were starting to share

24:11

the data on the COVID shot and the fact

24:13

that it was not going to limit

24:17

the spread or keep people from

24:19

getting COVID, it was considered

24:21

to be unacceptable. The White House

24:23

was furious. And this is

24:25

where I want to start with you. On

24:27

your sub stack. You have a story up.

24:30

You have written documentation that

24:32

the White House, in meetings with Twitter,

24:35

demanded that you no longer

24:37

be able to share your opinions on social

24:41

media because the White House considered it to be disinformation.

24:44

Misinformation however you want to

24:46

classify it for people who don't

24:49

know exactly what happened, what happened and what

24:51

was the impact of that White House activity,

24:55

Well, I think the short answers were I'm

24:57

still I'm still investigating that, I'm still

24:59

finding that out. But what happened

25:01

that you know, that I know for certain

25:03

is that last August, Twitter

25:06

banned me, and they had

25:08

sort of been ratcheting up the pressure on me

25:10

starting in mid July of last year

25:12

July twenty twenty one, I've been a

25:15

pretty popular Twitter user, probably

25:17

one of the more prominent skeptics, first about

25:20

lockdown and

25:22

you know, in school closures and stuff like that in twenty

25:24

twenty, and then raising questions about

25:26

the vaccine I think, you know, and I

25:29

would say it was raising them in a very data driven,

25:32

measured way. But

25:34

they clearly didn't like that. People in the public

25:37

health community didn't like that. Democratic

25:39

politicians didn't like that. Journalists

25:42

didn't like that, and

25:44

so and yet Twitter,

25:46

um, you know, for most of twenty

25:49

twenty and early twenty twenty one told

25:51

me suppecily, we have your back. Basically,

25:53

we know what you're doing, we think it's okay.

25:57

So at some point late

26:00

spring or summer of twenty twenty one,

26:02

that changed, and it changed

26:05

very publicly for me. In July

26:07

of twenty twenty one, they'd banned me or locking

26:09

me out of my account for the first time after

26:12

President Biden said he

26:14

didn't mentioned me, but he said, you know, these social

26:16

media platforms are killing people. So

26:19

that led me to sue Twitter in

26:22

in December twenty

26:24

twenty one, saying, look, you guys stanned

26:26

me in August. That was wrong. I didn't

26:28

do anything wrong. You

26:31

know, you made these representations to me,

26:33

and you're violating your own you know, contract

26:36

with me, and you're violating my First Amendment

26:38

rights. You're acting, you know, on behalf of the state,

26:40

you know, by state and ey federal government. Okay.

26:44

In April of this

26:46

year, a couple months ago, a judge,

26:48

a federal judge in California, said I

26:51

had a viable claim that I had

26:53

proven or at least stated plausively

26:56

that Twitter had indeed violated

26:59

its terms of service US with me. That

27:01

led to settlement negotiations

27:03

between me and Twitter in July,

27:07

a month ago, Twitter put me back

27:09

on the platform and acknowledge that it shouldn't

27:11

have taken me off. So

27:15

that was where we were until a couple

27:17

of days ago. A couple of days ago, I posted

27:19

these documents. And what the documents show is

27:22

that in April of twenty twenty one,

27:25

before I became under public pressure,

27:28

the White House appears

27:30

to have specifically targeted

27:33

me with Twitter. They went

27:35

to they had a meeting at the White House, and

27:37

nobody's suiting the authenticity of these

27:39

documents. And after the meeting, Twitter

27:42

people said to each other internally they

27:44

were very interested in now experiencing They

27:46

wanted to know why he's still on the platform.

27:49

So that gives me a

27:51

viable claim to sue the White House

27:54

and to sue a guy named Andy Flavitt, who

27:56

at the time was the COVID an

27:58

advisor to the COVID response team,

28:00

who has you know, who's sort of been very prominent

28:03

in the Democratic response to COVID, but

28:05

he was working in the White House at that time,

28:07

and he's specifically mentioned in these documents

28:09

and say, look, you guys tried to use the power

28:12

of the schedual government against me.

28:14

Specifically, you leaned on Twitter

28:16

and four months later Twitter banded

28:18

me. So I'm gonna so I need to know how

28:21

that happened. I need to know how you silenced

28:23

me. I have a right, as at first, you know, as an American

28:26

citizen, to the First Amendment to speak,

28:28

to beak publicly. Twitter is

28:30

a very very important platform. You obviously

28:33

knew that you wanted me off what

28:35

happened. So I'm going to sue, you

28:37

know, the White House, and I'm gonna sue Slavitt

28:39

and we'll see what happened. Speaking

28:42

Alex Berenson, he has a sub stack

28:44

which you should all check out. And also

28:47

his book is Pandemia. Alex, I

28:49

didn't I want to ask you about COVID because Clay

28:51

and I have just been First of all, as we know, doctor

28:54

Jill Biden, what was your line cloud

28:56

on Twitter? Not a good enough doctor to avoid COVID?

28:58

You know, think have taken it more serious?

29:01

Would have gotten five shots? This

29:04

with Boor Law and the other the CEO

29:06

of Moderna bemoaning the disposal

29:10

of thirty million shots because

29:12

nobody wants them. It feels like

29:14

the whole thing is collapsing. Is

29:16

there even any good evidence at

29:18

this point to suggest that if someone

29:21

got their booster six months

29:23

ago, let's say they are

29:25

any more protected than anybody

29:28

else. Oh, absolutely

29:30

not. No, six months ago, No against

29:32

omicron. No, you probably

29:34

are in higher risk in infection. Uh.

29:38

You the booster seems to work

29:40

for somewhere between two and six weeks against

29:42

omicron. Uh.

29:45

That's about it. No, here's

29:47

here's the you know. The punchline

29:49

is, Yeah, Maderna is dumping thirty million

29:52

doses. The US government is spending almost

29:54

two billion dollars to buy sixty six million

29:56

boosters from them, and three billion to

29:58

buy another one hundred million boosters

30:01

from Fiser. We are reloading

30:03

with shots that are nobody's gonna want that, we're

30:05

sending five billion dollars off. Can

30:07

I just ask, Alex, is this an even bigger failure

30:10

than a year ago we were having

30:12

you on? And I might add to some considerable

30:15

heat that Clay and I got for this, including

30:17

from other people on the right. I think Alex

30:19

is going too far on the vaccines. I think

30:21

Alex is you know, he's lost it on this one. Even

30:24

some people that were open to you know, your

30:26

initial research. Is this even

30:29

more of a collapse of the vaccine

30:31

biden mandate regime than

30:33

you had anticipated. God,

30:38

I mean, you know, on the one

30:40

hand, yes, On the other hand, people, So there's

30:42

sort of two things happening. Right. Everybody

30:44

knows, right, everybody knows that

30:46

the vaccines don't really work right

30:49

at best, and that's why people won't get We talked about

30:51

this in the past. That's why people are not getting their kids

30:53

vaccinated. That's why vaccine demand

30:55

has collapsed. On the other hand, you

30:57

still have to sort of I mean I don't

31:00

and you don't, but people will still sort

31:02

of throw out. But they do protect against severe

31:04

disease and death, and frankly,

31:07

for that at this point is essentially

31:09

close to nail if you really know what the data

31:11

says. Um so, so,

31:14

I mean, I guess, I guess

31:16

we don't even need to have that fight, though. I guess

31:18

you're right. As long as

31:21

nobody's getting the shots. That's

31:23

that's people knowing

31:25

the truth, whether they want to talk about it or

31:28

not. You know, But Alex,

31:30

I actually think that

31:32

you just mentioned that we're going to spend five billion

31:34

dollars on a lot of boosters that nobody

31:36

wants. And I'm sure

31:38

you've seen the articles about the Maderna executives

31:41

who are buying multimillion dollar estates

31:44

and fancy housing. Certainly

31:46

that's happening at Visor as well. With what

31:48

they're paying these top people. I

31:51

think we do need some sort of recompense

31:54

here. And I know, and this has been something

31:56

that you've talked about and we've hammered on this show.

31:59

Right now, you can't sue over

32:02

anything that go wrong with these

32:04

shots, which should have been terrifying in the

32:06

first place for anybody out there thinking about taking

32:09

them. But shouldn't

32:11

there be some investigations, like if

32:13

the Republicans take the House and maybe the Senate,

32:15

but certainly the House at a minimum, shouldn't

32:18

we have a real investigation into how this money

32:20

got spent the failure, And frankly,

32:22

I think that there should be potentially

32:24

criminal investigations because it seems quite

32:27

clear, and I'm curious if you agree with this. It

32:29

seems quite clear that we were

32:31

fraudulently induced to take

32:33

these shots, and that there has to

32:36

be substantial evidence of fraud

32:38

inside of Maderna and Fizer over

32:41

the fact that these things were not working

32:43

while they were getting people fired for refusing

32:46

to take them, right, I feel like there needs to be

32:48

some consequence other than everybody

32:50

just says, Haha, these don't work, we're not going to take

32:53

them anymore. Well, they're still making billions

32:55

of dollars and people still lost their jobs.

32:58

So look, I mean, we need to

33:00

investigate whether or not there was criminal

33:02

behavior or anything like that. I'm sort

33:05

of not prepared to go there at

33:07

this point. Here's where you have to

33:09

remember last year that this collapse happened

33:11

extremely fast, the collapse of vaccine

33:14

efficacy. Okay, these vaccines were

33:16

only invented in the

33:18

spring of twenty twenty. They were

33:20

only put into people's arms beginning in

33:22

the summer of twenty twenty. By

33:24

November, it was suddenly they were a miracle.

33:27

Okay, So the companies were only a

33:29

few weeks or months, a couple

33:31

months and most ahead of everybody

33:33

else. The reason that I know, the

33:35

reason that like I, you

33:38

know, was so loud in sounding

33:40

the alarm in the spring

33:43

of twenty twenty wasn't that I knew something

33:45

was wrong. Is that I knew that the data wasn't

33:47

there to support what the companies

33:49

were saying. But it wasn't just the companies, it was the public

33:52

health authorities, and then over the summer

33:54

it became clear that efficacy was

33:57

going to collapse much faster than

33:59

people thought, and became clear out of data,

34:01

because of data out of Israel. The

34:04

crime here, I mean, and crime is sort of

34:06

the wrong word, but let's say crime. The

34:08

crime here isn't what

34:11

we know. It's that we don't know what we

34:13

don't know. And the companies haven't

34:15

been forced to collect the data properly. They

34:17

haven't been forced. So there's

34:19

a study that came out a couple of days ago showing

34:23

that the vaccine seemed to have some heart impact

34:25

on a lot of teenagers.

34:27

Okay, out of Thailand. Now we

34:29

already knew that myo Kardiitisan chartdis

34:32

are risk for young people who get these

34:34

shots. Okay, this

34:37

study wasn't that big, It wasn't

34:39

definitive, but you know, it adds to the

34:41

questions about whether or not any

34:43

teenager or any young adults should be getting the shots.

34:47

That's good. Why was

34:49

this done, you know, you know, out of a time

34:51

military hospital. Why wasn't

34:53

Maturner required to do this last year? Why

34:56

didn't the NIH do this itself last

34:58

year. Why why are we spending a billion

35:01

dollars plus on long COVID, which, which

35:03

I will continue to insist at the end of my

35:05

days, is basically non existent. And

35:08

you know it's it's it's yet another

35:10

sort of like made up syndrome

35:13

looking for insurance dollars and

35:16

drug company dollars. I mean, yeah, and sympathy

35:18

online. By the way, people love to talk about, oh, my

35:20

long COVID, and then they get all the comments about I'll

35:22

be brave push through your long COVID, as in,

35:24

you know you're a little depressed m alex

35:27

before I let you go. Lastly,

35:29

but why why don't we why didn't we

35:31

spend the money to figure out about myralkroditis?

35:34

Yeah, we don't want any answers here. I mean, you know Fauci's

35:36

is going around dressed like a hipster talking about

35:38

the Faucci effect. I mean, anybody who still believes

35:40

that guy is anything works

35:42

anything other than the worst public health

35:45

official in the history I think of the modern

35:47

world, is out of their minds. But

35:49

I did want to ask you quickly because you alluded to this

35:51

and I saw some study out of Iceland. I don't know if

35:53

it's you know, real deal. I know you read all

35:56

the studies that suggests negative

35:58

efficacy, as in, there

36:00

is a concern that you could be more

36:03

likely to contract a strain

36:05

of COVID based on if

36:07

you've gotten X number of shots. Is

36:09

where are we on that? Is there a real data

36:11

to support negative efficacy? I've

36:14

read the other some study, it's real, it's good. It's a national

36:16

level study from a rich country that a

36:18

smart scientists. Yeah, what that says is

36:21

if you were infected and then vaccinated, you

36:23

have a better chance of getting COVID than if you're infected

36:25

and did not get vaccinated. I

36:28

mean, it's really amazing how bad

36:31

the vaccines are turning out to be. But

36:33

this is what happens when you rush

36:36

a technology that basically didn't exist

36:38

and put it in a billion people after

36:41

a couple of months of research. It's a

36:43

bad idea and we would have been lucky,

36:46

very lucky if none of this had happened.

36:48

Instead, we're just getting what you would expect.

36:50

And by one last thing, I know, I got to go. I

36:52

know you guys are sure on time. The all cosmortality

36:55

numbers are bad. They are bad all

36:57

over the world. In the MR and a countryes. What I mean

36:59

is for months now in the UK,

37:02

in Australia, in Germany and a lot of countries

37:05

that collect data better than we do, they're

37:07

seeing a rise in overall death

37:09

counts, not a huge rise, but a five

37:12

ten percent rise in non COVID

37:14

deaths. That that is strikingly

37:16

correlated to the you know,

37:18

to the mass vaccination care and and

37:20

alex isn't that also even

37:23

younger people right like eighteen

37:26

to forty nine, you're seeing some of the highest

37:28

increases in you know, sort of unexplained

37:30

death relative to expectations.

37:33

So that's gotten thrown around a lot because

37:35

there's this one insurance company, uh,

37:37

you know, Executi. If we talked about that, it's

37:39

not actually clear to me that that's true. Although actually

37:42

in the next few minutes I'm going to have a subspect

37:44

that people are gonna that's gonna strike people

37:46

about some data out of New Zealand.

37:49

Um. So, so look,

37:52

older people die it much much higher rates than

37:54

younger people, so you can see it more clearly

37:56

and there's less statistical noise. But

37:58

when you when you look around the world, this

38:00

is something that we should be talking about

38:03

that but how are the public health parties going to admit

38:05

this? If it's a problem, that's how

38:07

do they admit? Hey, you know, maybe we

38:09

caused a five percent increase in overall death

38:11

worldwide. Man,

38:14

go check out Alex's substack. Everybody subscribed

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38:19

Alex. You know we'll have you back soon. Thanks so much.

38:22

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results have come out in the

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of North Florida. One of the polls

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not particularly surprising. Florida

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Governor RHN de Santis up seven points

40:00

on Nicky Freed, up eight

40:02

points on Charlie Christ.

40:04

Democrats still have to pick. They're

40:07

running uh their nominee

40:10

and the Democrats when they do, by the way, you're

40:12

going to see that Desantist number go up

40:14

a couple of points. Just when we know who the Democrat

40:16

nominee is. I think it'll be Charlie Christ.

40:19

He seems to be kind of running away with

40:21

it in many water running in

40:24

Florida for the last hundred years from what I can understand.

40:26

Here's here's a good example of this. Buck

40:29

two different poles in Florida today,

40:32

and I'm looking at real clear politics. I

40:34

love looking at polls. I'm a nerd. They post

40:37

these new every day. In Saint

40:39

Petersburg they did a pole Saint

40:42

Pete poles, Charlie Christ up

40:44

thirty two points over Nicky Freed

40:47

in the Democrat

40:49

shot. Okay, in the University

40:51

of North Florida pole, Nicky

40:53

Freed up four points. They came

40:56

out the same day, a thirty

40:58

six point poll old difference

41:01

and a difference in who would win. So

41:04

that's kind of hard to explain. And it brings

41:06

me to this. We've been talking a lot

41:09

about the Senate. Which

41:11

one do you think? Which one do you think is right? I mean, I'm

41:13

not following. I've never looked at a poll before.

41:15

Between the two of them, the assumption

41:17

has been that Freed is the Agricultural

41:20

Commissioner and she's to make a lot of noise. I think

41:22

people realize she's a little um off.

41:25

And then there's uh, you know,

41:27

old man Chris, who's just been around forever.

41:29

Yeah, I think Chris is probably going to be the nominee.

41:32

Yeah, but the fact that we got thirty six point

41:35

difference ties me in here. They've

41:38

got Rubio down to Val Demmings

41:40

in the Senate race. Now, I do not

41:42

believe this is accurate, but you're probably going

41:44

to see this start to ricochet around

41:46

because Democrats want to sell the idea

41:49

that they have tremendous momentum. Right, they're

41:51

trying to sell this idea joementum Joe

41:53

Biden passed the House

41:56

and the Senate bill. They're trying to sell

41:58

the idea that he's on the comeback trail. And

42:01

so I guarantee you that this Pole

42:03

is going to get a lot of attention. Val Demmings.

42:05

They have her up four points

42:08

over Rubio. University of

42:10

North Florida Pole. Now, the

42:12

reason why I want to share with you, I don't want to run from

42:14

it because the Senate is

42:17

folks, It's gonna be tough. I

42:19

look, doctor Oz. Did you see the doctor

42:22

Oz commercial where

42:24

he goes in the campaign thing where he goes

42:26

in and talk about the price of things, and

42:29

he's asking about what he needs

42:31

to buy for his crew. Detay,

42:33

I mean it's like he should go in there and

42:35

ask if they have any great poupon.

42:37

This was not not good,

42:40

right, I mean the team here, you guys saw it, right, doctor

42:43

doctor Oz. I know you talked to him last week

42:45

when I was out. Yeah, we had him on. He

42:47

was great on the show. Well yeah, look,

42:49

he's super compelling. He's been crazy

42:51

successful in media. But as

42:54

his campaign is going here, Clay,

42:57

if some people are starting to say he's down almost

42:59

double digits defended, looks

43:02

like he doesn't, you know, look shaky and

43:05

he's not an old guy. He just looks shaky. He had a serious

43:07

health event recently. Yeah, he had a stroke.

43:09

And Fetterman cannot speak and

43:12

doctor Oz has challenged him to five

43:14

different debates. I don't think that Fetterman

43:16

is going to be able to debate. And I think

43:18

it's gonna be even more aggressive

43:21

in Pennsylvania trying to hide

43:23

him than they did with Joe Biden in

43:25

the twenty presidential

43:28

election, except Fetterman is even

43:30

in worse shape than Biden was, so Pennsylvania

43:32

is going to be a mess. We've got a big battle

43:35

going on in Wisconsin.

43:37

Georgia certainly we know about, and

43:40

Nevada. Hopefully New Hampshire can end up being

43:42

competitive. They're picking a nominee here soon and

43:46

and then Arizona. But if

43:48

you have been out there and you've been of the belief,

43:50

hey, there's a huge red wave coming, we

43:53

don't really need to worry about it too much. I don't

43:55

need to get active. I don't need to speak out

43:58

in the Senate in particular, that

44:00

is not necessarily going to be the case.

44:03

You need to be as aggressive as you can. We're speaking

44:05

to with this show, millions

44:07

of voters across the

44:09

country. We're speaking

44:11

to conservative and Republican

44:14

activists, people that are doing a lot of grassroots

44:16

organizing, people that are

44:19

fired up and try to create a

44:21

ground swell of support for the right candidates,

44:24

whether it's for the school board all the way up to Senate seats.

44:26

In this election, this

44:28

is not the time to coast. This

44:30

is when you know you're kicking

44:33

hard at the end of the race. This is when it's a

44:35

time to absolutely hit the afterburner

44:38

because it's looking pretty good. For Jade

44:40

events in Ohio. But it's not

44:42

a sure thing. It's very

44:44

tight. I think he's gonna be all

44:46

right, but La Salt, I think he's gonna

44:48

win in Nevada, but that one's gonna

44:50

be close. Blake Masters strong

44:53

candidate Steep Harald Decline against

44:55

Mark Kelly, the incumbent, and then you get

44:57

into Herschel v

45:00

Van Jones in Georgia and

45:02

arna Os versus Feederman in Pennsylvania.

45:05

Those are tough ones, man, those are Reverend

45:08

Warnock has been a has

45:12

been a poor candidate who managed

45:14

to win once. And we'll

45:16

see what We'll see what ends up happening

45:18

in that next one. And so

45:21

this is going to be a real

45:23

challenge to see exactly what's going

45:25

to happen there. And um,

45:28

I just I don't think you can

45:30

overrate how competitive

45:33

a bunch of these are going to be. And look this,

45:35

this this Rubio versus Val Dimmings

45:37

raced down in Florida is gonna get

45:39

trumpeted. So I just want you to hear from us

45:42

as these polls are coming out. We're gonna try to keep

45:44

you apprize of everything. And that's why

45:46

I think it's so important to stay focused on this, and

45:49

I look, I think, I know it's a Republican

45:51

seat, but not really up in Alaska. That's the

45:53

problem. You know, you know, you

45:55

win some, you lose some with Murkowski

45:57

on the Republican side, which is why I think Shamba

46:00

would be It really would

46:02

be almost like a Republican

46:04

pickup if she can win that seat, because

46:06

you can count so much more on her for

46:09

judicial nominees. You're talking about this, the

46:11

House goes to Republicans likely,

46:14

everyone thinks, so off your election. Okay,

46:17

great, that slows down the Biden

46:19

agenda for sure, and that's

46:21

a good thing, but it doesn't stop

46:24

it. And if you have a Supreme Court vacancy

46:26

or even just federal circuit

46:28

courts, that will be Oh, they will stack

46:31

these circuit courts with the

46:33

most activist left wing lunatics they

46:35

possibly can, and

46:38

they'll they'll put in more of these nominees

46:41

to head the federal agencies to

46:44

use those the fourth branch of government, the

46:46

federal agencies, to push Biden agenda

46:48

items. So a senators there,

46:50

it's obviously to say it's important as

46:52

an understatement, and it's obvious, but it's

46:56

not looking like it did a couple months ago where

46:59

you know, we're talking about the Red Wave, the Annihilation

47:01

play in May and June.

47:03

Yeah, Democrats, we knew

47:05

they had a bag of tricks and they're reaching deep

47:07

into it. Well. And look, the

47:10

other thing is if they control the Senate. I

47:13

hate to say it, but you never know. Clarence Thomas

47:15

seventy four years old. Buck, You've

47:18

got John Roberts. I mean he's coming up on

47:20

sixty eight. Alito is seventy

47:22

two, going on seventy three. There

47:24

are a lot of people out there. When

47:26

you get into your seventies, we

47:28

know this just happens. Unfortunately, people

47:31

can have unexpected health related issues.

47:33

And this is a real

47:35

issue in terms of being able

47:38

to be a check on the Biden administration

47:41

and their agenda. And it's

47:43

not going to be a cakewalk.

47:46

People need to be super active and aware

47:48

of how much of a battle this is going to be in

47:51

many parts of the country. One

47:53

can I ask you a question before we we're gonna go to break,

47:55

maybe if you want to come back to it, we can. That's

47:57

what we call it teas in the business. Is

48:00

it better for pure bare knuckle

48:03

political purposes if they're going

48:05

to indict Trump. Do

48:07

they want to do it before

48:10

this midterm election or

48:12

after to see how the chips

48:14

may fall on the midterm without poking

48:17

the bear further. Do you want to take that because

48:19

yeah, we'll talk about it. Ask me. I'm curious.

48:22

Yeah, I think the timing on the idea of

48:24

an indictment, if it were going to come before

48:26

or after the midterms, is a really interesting

48:28

one. We'll talk about it in a minute. We come back in

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