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Hi Numerologist community, thank you once again for joining me for another episode of the Numerologist Podcast. In this episode, we’re joined by wellness and self-love coach, Nati Valderrama. In this episode, we’ll explore the art of self-love and shifting your mindset. Here, Nati will equip the tools to move into a place of self-acceptance and manifest the best version of you. Listen below or on your favorite platform…     Here’s what we discuss: Nati’s journey to self-love How to adopt a more self-loving mindset How to manifest your ideal life How to clear self-sabotaging thoughts Show Links Your Free Numerology Report –  Visit Nati’s website: Follow Nati on Instagram: Your Special Podcast Gift: As a thank you for joining us here on the Numerologist Podcast, we’re giving you access to a very special video report which delves into the deepest levels of your numerology chart to help you understand who you are. Get Your FREE Numerology Video Report Here:  http:/   Full Transcript Announcer: Welcome to the Numerologist Podcast, where we bring you a very special guest every single week to help guide you on your spiritual journey. Live with abundance and inspire your soul. Rose: Hi Numerologist community, and welcome back to another episode of the Numerologist Podcast with me Rose. Now, today’s guest is Nati Valderrama, a health and wellness coach, passionate about helping people live happier and healthier lives. She’s the author of Get In My Belly a Healthy Sweet Ebook as well as 101 Simple Healthy Recipes. As a budding astrologer, Nati has taken a plunge this year, to blend this esoteric art with her coaching to delve into clients’ natal charts, and help them become more self-aware. And it’s a fitting addition as self-awareness is her overall coaching goal. Now please join me in welcoming, Nati. Hey Nati. Nati Valderrama: Hey Rose. Rose: Welcome to the podcast. Nati Valderrama: Thank you so much. I’m very excited to be here. Rose: We are too. Now, Nati in the intro there, I just mentioned that you are a health and wellness coach, but I find that all coaches have their own unique take on what that actually means. So, can you tell us what being a health and wellness coach actually means for you? Nati Valderrama: Yeah, so I started health coaching over a year ago, and when I started it was more focused on health, about nutrition, I had my eBooks, as you mentioned, but with time I’ve been changing that and adapting it a bit. Adding more like a well… What do you call it? A holistic point of view into it, more about wellness, more about self-care, the way that you talk to yourself. And I’ve been changing and adapting into now what I call self love coaching. So, it started more as a, this is what you should eat kind of thing, or let’s get you better nutrition-wise, but now it’s more, what works for you? What doesn’t work for you? How do you treat yourself? How do you talk to yourself? What practices do you have? What are your habits? So that’s where I’m heading at right now. And as you said with astrology, it’s been super great because of the whole self awareness part of it. What I really want for my clients is for them to know themselves and to love themselves at the end of the coaching program. Ideally. Rose: Yeah, absolutely. And it’s funny you say that your journey and the path you’re on is evolving, because when you started like you say, it was a lot about nutrition because you were on a bit of a body acceptance journey and loving the skin you’re in yourself, weren’t you? So, can you tell us a bit about your journey to self-acceptance that way? Nati Valderrama: Yeah, so it started in 2014. That’s how I started my whole journey and how I found my passion. I was really in a point where I was hating my body, I disliked myself generally. And I found this program, BBG, you probably know of her, of Kayla Itsines. She this personal trainer in Australia. And I saw pictures of her clients of before and afters and I was like, “I got to do that.” So, I started and I had a really impressive three months transformation. And it was so impressive that some of my friends were like, “You should start an Instagram, you should share it. You should share your pictures, your progress pictures.” And I was like, “Okay, fine, let’s do this.” And one day after posting my pictures, Kayla Itsines reposted them and I had 4,000 followers in one day. And that’s how I started my journey on Instagram. So, it basically just went up from there, some days I would have 9,000 new followers, and it was all very much just progress pictures and pictures of what I was eating. And it was very much fitness in that time. But as time progressed and I started relaxing more and not eating so strictly, it took a little turn towards something different, towards something more integral and something more holistic. And I was already looking for what I wanted to do with my life. I studied advertising and that wasn’t really what I wanted to work in. I didn’t want to work for a big company or anything. I wanted to work for myself. So, I traveled to Australia. I lived there for a year and there I met a health coach. And I saw her lifestyle and I saw the way that she was helping people. And I was like, “That’s what I want to do.” I was already helping people on Instagram. I was giving people free advice, but I didn’t have anything really to back it up. So, that’s why I ended up studying health coaching in the Institute of Integrative Nutrition in New York. It’s called IIN. And that’s what led me to where I am right now. But yeah, it’s definitely had its ups and downs. I mean, I lost a lot of weight then I gained a lot of weight back. And then I was like, “How do I find that middle point where I’m happy with my body despite the outer appearance?” So, it started very much like, “I want to be fit and I want to love my body.” But it was like, “I will love my body once I reach a certain goal.” And then it got to a point where it was like, I was so skinny that there was no more weight to lose but I was still stuck on the physical, I guess. And then it went changing into something more internal, and how I felt about myself, and went through BBG and then weights and then yoga, and yoga really changes it for me because it became a integral mind, body and soul kind of thing instead of just a physical thing. So, that’s how I got to where I am right now. Rose: Absolutely. So, let’s actually talk about self-love as a whole, because it sounds you went on a journey to find self-love but you didn’t really realize what that looked like until you arrived at a certain destination. So, what is self-love? Nati Valderrama: Well, I’ve been thinking about that a lot these past few months. How do you define self-love? And I think the way that I would define it, is a journey towards your higher self. So, when you think about your higher self, you think about it like that seat from which you can see yourself better. And it’s a journey as I mentioned, so it’s never like, “Uh, I reached self love. I love myself now. End of story.” It’s something that you need to continue doing. So, when I think about self love, I think about it like an umbrella term, and then there’s all these small things that you integrate into it. So like the way that you care for yourself, your self care, your self-compassion, your self-fulfillment, your self-confidence, all of these things play a role in the bigger umbrella of what self-love is. So, it might be different for everyone, but I do believe that it has to do with creating healthy habits, speaking to yourself in a kind and gentle way, and really taking care of your mind, body and soul in one way or another. So that’s where my coaching comes in. So, when I started as I mentioned, it was more like, “Let’s find ways that you can take better care of your body. Eat better and do more exercise.” And that was the initial promise of my coaching was, I’m going to get you to have these habits that will help you be healthier. But I think it goes beyond that where it’s, what habits are you including in your life that really pull you towards being that higher self. When you are trying to manifest that ideal life for yourself, it’s usually a life where you love yourself and you feel confident and you feel happy and you feel fulfilled. So, the whole point of the self-love journey is to really start loving yourself every step of the way, because you realize that self-love is not a destination that you get to. It is a decision that you’re making day in and day out through your actions. Rose: And just on that day in, day out, repeated action type thing. Have you got any quick and simple tips or exercises that people can do to adopt a more self-loving mindset? Nati Valderrama: Well, there’s many things, but I think two of the things that have really helped me lately, have been my gratitude practice and my habit tracking. So, I have a Bullet Journal. Let me just show you. So, I don’t know if you’ve heard about bullet journaling, but basically you have a journal and you fill it in the way that you want and the way that it works for you, but one of the things that I’ve been doing has been a habit tracking practice. So, every day I track different things in my little journal. So, for example, the blue is the yoga. So I have all of my yoga, like I did yoga basically every day in June, July as well. Then the purple is how many times I drank. So, I have other things. So how much I’m reading, how much TV I’m watching, things like that. So, I started tracking things that I wanted to add and things that I wanted to not have so much of. So for me seeing, oh yeah, I’ve been doing a lot of yoga. Cool. But then with the reading also cool, but with the drinking it’s like, “Oh, I’ve been drinking a bit too much.” So just being more aware of the habits that I have in my life and how they’re affecting me. So for me, usually the days that I’ve been drinking a lot, I see the next day I didn’t read, or I didn’t do yoga because I was hung over. So things like that. The habit tracker has been a really good addition into my daily practice so that I can really be intentional about what I’m doing, the habits that I’m adding or trying to remove from my life. And then the gratitude practice is just, I write down three things that I’m grateful for every day. So, at first when I started it was super hard. I was like, “Okay, I’m grateful for my home. I’m grateful for my health.” But then it just becomes like, “Oh, I’m grateful for the sunshine that’s beaming through my window. I’m grateful for…” I don’t know, just the smallest things just become so much bigger. And then you realize the small things are the big things. And for me during quarantine, it’s really helped me just to see the magic in the little things. And that for me has been one of the… those are the foundations of my self-love practices, it’s just putting in this active work throughout every day, because this is something I do daily. Where I’m just reflecting on my day, reflecting on my life and seeing what energies I’m putting out and what energies I’m receiving. That’s how I use my Bullet Journal anyway. And those are some things that I add to my daily life. And that really give me value. Rose: Absolutely. Now, I just want to let our listeners know if they’re listening on the podcast, they can head over to YouTube just to check out that Bullet Journal because it was really beautiful and it inspires me to do my own to be honest. So, watch this pace, I may have my own Bullet Journal very shortly. Now, what I’d really like to get your thoughts on, because obviously, when you started losing weight and started your journey, you started posting on Instagram. Is there some danger with people posting things like that on Instagram for their mindset? And obviously this is becoming more and more of a self-love movement going on there, but I’d really just like to get your thoughts on Instagram as a self-love tool overall. Nati Valderrama: Yes. So, when I started, I mean, I was getting so much external validation, and looking back on it now, it was like, “Wow.” That might’ve really harmed me in a way, because I was just posting these pictures where I was skinnier and skinnier, fitter and fitter and more and more people would congratulate me on it. So, then when I started gaining weight, I started losing followers, and that really affected me. And it took me a while to get used to it. And now I’m at a point I’ve lost hundreds and thousands of followers, but I’m at a point where it’s like, “Okay, whoever’s here really wants to see the content that I’m putting out and sees the value in the work that I’m doing.” So, it’s been a whole process of being okay with that. The other day I saw this quote on Instagram that says, “External validation is like a drug, internal validation is like a daily vitamin.” And that for me was like, “Whoa, exactly.” Rose: That gave me chills. Nati Valderrama: So for me, it’s been really important to use all of these internal validation practices that I can rely on. And yeah, sometimes I’ll get a little bit of external validation and I’ll put a post that does really well. And I have all these comments and people are congratulating me, or people are reaching out to me and saying they want coaching. And all of that feels great, but if I don’t have an internal validation practice, then it all just becomes super flimsy, and then I become addicted to the, okay, I need more likes, I need more posts. So, I’ve been through that journey and it’s been rough, before I would try to post once a day or twice a day even and it was just this constant receiving validation. And it really helped me to build my self-confidence, but it got to a point where since I was depending on it, my self-confidence was very fragile. So now, I feel I’m at a point where I don’t depend on it. It’s a good addition. I like those likes. I like those connections that I’m making, but it’s not something that I’m actively trying to work for every day. I’m working for other things and that’s just an added bonus. Rose: And it’s a bit of a backwards step sometimes as well, because we do have this body positivity movement, but it’s still about that external gratification and external appreciation, right? Nati Valderrama: Mm-hmm (affirmative). For sure. I mean, for me with the Instagram, since it started so much with me and bikini pictures, and me and these progress pictures, now you see my profile, if you were to see my first pictures and the last ones, now I don’t really post that many pictures of me in bikini or anything like that. It’s more of just pictures of my face or a quote or whatever with a deeper caption, and those captions definitely don’t get the same… people don’t like it or follow it so much when it’s not just the girl in a bikini. So, it’s like, where’s the balance between being someone who’s super body positive, but who also wants to talk about other things like, yes, body positivity is one of my pillars or whatever, but still it’s not something I want to be talking about all day long. When you’re talking about how body positive you are all day long, it’s like, “Hmm, are you really? What is there?” So, there’s that fine line and it’s like, “Yes, I want to talk about this, but I don’t want it to be my whole thing at all times.” Rose: Are there any myths or misconceptions about self-love? Nati Valderrama: I guess one of the myths might be that it’s narcissistic. While I was doing my research on how to phrase self-love. I saw a lot of websites saying, “Yeah, self-love can be narcissistic if you blah, blah, blah.” And I was like, “No, self-love is not narcissistic if you’re taking the right approach.” So, I guess it depends on what you mean by self-love, some people might be yeah, conceited, but I don’t think people who are conceited are practicing self-love. Some people are obsessed with power, but that doesn’t mean that’s because they love themselves, maybe it’s from a lack of love. So, I think it really depends on how you’re defining self-love or who the person who is promoting self-love is. If that makes sense. Rose: Yeah, absolutely. Now, we did get a few questions from our community. So, I’m just going to ask you a few of those as well. So, the first one, and I think this is a really nice question. Is self-love tough? And I personally think self-love is actually tough love. It goes way beyond just treating yourself. It includes catering and tending to your self-sabotaging habits too, what do you think? Nati Valderrama: For sure. It’s not easy. I mean, it’s not all rainbows and butterflies definitely. It’s not like, “Oh, I love myself. Life is wonderful.” It’s more than that. It’s like, “Oh, I can really be a bitch sometimes. Okay. Why am I acting this way? Oh, I’m being super jealous.” I think it’s about recognizing and being conscious of yourself, that’s part of it, that’s self-awareness. Being aware of your lights and your shadows and that’s not always easy. If you’re just aware of your light, yeah, that’s amazing. Oh my God, I’m amazing. But if you’re also focusing on the more negative aspects of your personality, of the way you treat people, that can be a bit harder. And also dealing with all of your past traumas, that can also be included in self-love, whatever it is that you’re doing to further love yourself and take care of yourself. But in order to do that, it’s hard, the same is like going to therapy. Going to therapy you will get better ideally, but no one says it’s going to be easy throughout the process because you’re going to learn some things about yourself that maybe you’ve been shutting away from, you haven’t really accessed or looked at directly. Rose: Yap, absolutely. And on that too, we’re talking about and looking at the shadow side and the negative traits, so I put in air quotes. Is it difficult for people to sometimes identify the parts of their personality or who they are, that are self-sabotaging? That are blocking them from reaching that self-love goal? Nati Valderrama: Yeah, for sure. I mean, I think sometimes it’s so subtle. For example, I had a coaching call today. And she would say all these words like, “Ah, I should do this. I should do that. Yeah. I’m going to try.” And I just kept repeating back to her the amount of times that she used the word should or try, and I was like, “This isn’t helping you. Who is telling you that you should be doing this?” And she’s like, “Oh, it’s self-induced pressure.” Okay. And what are you getting out of this? Guilt, shame, and it took us under this whole other level, and i was like, “Okay, why are we using these words? What are these words producing for us?” And I think so many of us have it so ingrained in the way that we think we don’t even question it. When we say, “I should do this” Or, “Oh yeah, I should do that.” And you can even think that it’s positive, but it’s still got that level of heaviness. So, I think people sometimes are not even aware of these things that they’re carrying and, sorry, I forgot your question. I think I went on a tangent. Rose: No, I was just talking about how people can identify, is it difficult for people to sometimes identify the parts that are blocking them from achieving the self-love goal? Nati Valderrama: Oh, yeah. For sure. And I think that’s why it helps to have a coach or someone who mirrors it back to you because you can be talking, or you can be saying all of this to maybe a friend and they’re like, “Yeah, it’s true.” And you can just stay in that surface level. But I think a coach is a great mirror because it’s like, “Wait, I hear you saying this and this and this, let’s explore that.” And then it’s like, “Okay. I had never realized that I have this blocking me.” For example, with astrology, as you mentioned, I’ve been doing natal chart readings. And it’s a great compliment to my coaching calls because then we see very clearly on the chart like, “Oh, here it says you have a lot of earth on your chart. And that’s maybe why you’re such a perfectionist. And maybe why you’ve been putting all this pressure on yourself.” And your chart says it like this is a truth about you, and there it’s easier to confront it. And it’s like, “Oh, it’s not just me self-sabotaging. It’s just the way that I’m made. And now I need to… Okay, now that I’ve opened my eyes and seeing this truth about myself, how do I deal with it? How would I go forward with it?” So yes, in conclusion it is hard for people to see that. And I think it’s always good to have someone who can reflect it back to you in some way. Rose: And I think what you just said there about natal charts is so on point, there’s a lot that can be said for reasoning. People sometimes need a reason that they are this way or they’re not this way. And it can be really hard to accept if there’s not a higher reason, right? With the natal chart, it’s there in black and white of, these are your challenges and these are your positive traits or whatever your advantage is. So, it’s really nice that you’ve added that into your practice and into your coaching. Do you find that the way you’re doing things is different or it’s just complimentary towards what you’re already doing? Nati Valderrama: It’s definitely complimentary. My coaching pretty much remains the same, I usually do six sections minimum. So, usually after the third session, I’m like, “Okay, I think we’re ready. Let’s read the chart.” So I schedule another session in between, and then it helps us unlock some certain things that were not letting us move forward. So it’s like, “Oh, this is what I’ve been telling you. You complain a lot.” Or whatever. Okay. It’s written here. And then in the coaching it’s like, “Okay, we’re moving forward with this knowledge that we’ve now acquired about yourself.” Without them actually having to say it to me. So that’s also really cool because it’s like I’ll see… For example, I had a client that complained a lot. And she would always be complaining and then she’d be like, “Oh, I’m sorry. I just complained a lot. That’s just the way I am. I can’t help it.” And then we saw her chart and yes, her chart showed that very clearly. And it was like, “Okay, so this is the truth about you. How are we going to move forward from this?” And now that we have this knowledge and it’s not just an excuse, it’s in my chart, but it’s like, “How do we work on it so that we can integrate more of that bright side or whatever you want to call it, the more positive aspects of your chart?” So, yeah, it’s a good little compliment. And now I’ve also been adding it just for additional people who don’t want coaching, but just want their natal chart read. I do a few different sessions depending on what they want to touch on. If it’s just a general introduction to people for people who don’t really know anything about astrology, I give them a mini 20 minute lesson and then we go into their chart, and then I offer other ones where we can go a little bit deeper and talk about their destiny and their karma and the way that they work and what their career looks like and all of that, which I’ve been finding fascinating. I’ve been learning so much and then sharing it with others it’s also helped me learn more. So, for me it’s just been amazing as a self-awareness tool for myself and to be able to provide that for others as well. Rose: And I think again, what you just said there about people using, oh, this is in my chart. So it’s an excuse to let you off the hook. I think one of those things is, within your natal chart, it not only tells you what your challenges are, but it also gives you an opening to deal with them too. So, I think- Nati Valderrama: Yeah, it’s not just like, “Okay, that’s it. I’m done. This is my natal chart.” No, it’s like, “Okay, there are things I can work on here. What am I going to walk on?” Rose: Absolutely. Now, I just want you to just talk about self-love in relation to forgiveness, because we did have a few questions from our audience about, how do I forgive myself? What is self-love and forgiveness? Are they working together? So, what are your thoughts on forgiving yourself? Nati Valderrama: So, for me- Rose: It’s quite specific I think. Nati Valderrama: Yeah, it is. So I read this book, The Four Agreements, have you read it? Rose: No. Nati Valderrama: The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz. It’s an amazing book and it’s super simple, super short, but one of the agreements is always do your best. And for me, I mean The Four Agreements has really changed my life and I’ve integrated all of them, but that one, the always do your best has really changed it for me because when I know that I’m always doing my best, even if it wasn’t the best for someone else, I know that that was my best at that time. And that’s okay. I don’t know, for example, one day I won’t be as productive as I want to be. I’ll start beating myself up and I’ll start feeling like, “Oh, why didn’t you do the three things you had on your list? It wasn’t that hard.” And I start just, “This is very negative behavior.” But then it’s like, “Wait, I did my best for today. It was a low energy day and I did my best and I still did this and this and this. Okay, cool.” As you can see for me, it’s always about productivity, so now i need to be productive. But I think as long as you know that what you’ve done is your best. And it depends on the forgiveness, is it for giving someone else? Or is it giving yourself? But when it comes to forgiving yourself, I think just knowing that you did your best at any given moment, it’s like, “Okay, therefore I release it because it’s in the past now. And I can’t really do anything about it anymore.” And then when it comes to forgiving others, it also I think, comes to forgiving yourself. Unless it’s something that you can talk about. I don’t know. Say you have a problem with your sister, and you are holding a grudge, and you are finding it hard to forgive her. You’re finding it hard to forgive yourself for not forgiving her. So, it comes to a few options like, “Okay, are you going to talk to her about it? Yes. Okay. I’m going to talk to her about it. When you talk to her, are you going to blame her for what happened? Or are you just going to say, I forgive you.” I think it’s a complicated topic that we can go deeper on. But I think with the self-forgiveness, it just comes to that decision of like, “Okay, what role do I want to play here…” I think this is a question that’s too hard for me to explain actually. Rose: That’s okay. Nati Valderrama: I went into this whole loop. Rose: No, I think you explained it perfectly because what it brought to my mind was, we constantly putting dirt on ourselves all day, every day. Oh, I should have done this. And it takes me back to that client you were talking about, I should have done this. Those micro thoughts in your mind, those are the things that you need to forgive yourself for as well. There might be an overarching big picture that you want to forgive yourself for and move forward, but you’re so right, it’s thinking about the small things in your life that you’re putting on yourself that you just need to let go and say, “You know what? There’s no should. It’s a word that puts negative connotations on the effort you’ve put in already.” Nati Valderrama: Yeah, no, it’s such a big baggage. The word should, I’ve been working on that for the past four years. Just trying not to use the word should, trying. I’m also trying not to use the word try. But the word should really has such a negative weight to it. And it’s something that you put on yourself, no one is telling you should. And if there’s someone telling you, you should do this, that person also needs to work on it because it’s like, “What do you get out of telling people, you should be doing this. You should be doing that.” It’s just that judgment, and that nothing is okay, because you should be doing something better in [inaudible 00:28:06]. Let’s not use that word guys. Rose: It’s funny you bring that up. I actually was talking to a friend the other day and she smokes and I said, “Oh, you should stop smoking.” And she said, “That’s such a dirty word.” And it made me check myself and go, “Oh…” There’s such power in language, about the language we give to other people, and we tell ourselves, right? Nati Valderrama: Yeah. For sure. No, and with the smoking thing I feel that because I have friends who smoke and I’m like, “Why are you smoking? You’re doing this and it’s terrible for your health.” But I think they’ve heard it so many times. Somebody telling them like, “Oh, you should stop smoking.” It’s not going to make them, “Oh, you know what? Maybe I should.” And then they don’t know, it’s never like that. It’s more like, “Hmm. Okay. So, why do you smoke? What does it produce for you?” And maybe going a little bit deeper. Because we think we’re trying to help others when we tell them like, “You should stop smoking.” But really we’re just making them feel worse about something that they probably don’t feel very proud of anyway. Rose: Yeah, absolutely. Now, I just want to come back to the whole self-love thing, come a bit self-full circle. So, one of the questions that we got was about healing self-love. So, what would you say to those people who feel they have potentially loved themselves once, and it’s gone away and they don’t know how to get that back. They don’t know how to heal it and heal by self-esteem? Nati Valderrama: I think one good way to start is to have some pleasure practice in your life. So, whether that’s dancing in your undies around the house. Well, maybe that’s not the best example because people who hate themselves or who don’t really love themselves, that’s usually related to somebody, their body in general. So, I think it’s just like for me, I dance, whenever I’m feeling low I put on some music that I love and dance or sing, and that already gives me these endorphins, and it makes me feel really good about myself. So, things like that, I’ve always been adding into my life and they always add up to me feeling a little bit better about myself and feeling a little bit more present in my body. And another thing that I’ve been working on with my clients is the self-compassion. So, I think it starts with checking the way that you’re speaking to yourself, and thinking, would I tell a friend? Would I say this to a friend? So for example, you wake up and you’re like, “You’re a failure.” And it’s like, “Would you ever say to a friend you’re a failure?” And if you wouldn’t, then check why are you speaking to yourself that way. You wake up and you’re like, “Oh, I’m so fat. These clothes don’t fit anymore.” It’s like, “Would you ever tell a friend you’re so fat your clothes don’t fit… ?” I mean, maybe some people would, but check yourself if you’re doing that. But for me that has been a really powerful practice, in like when I look at myself in the mirror and a negative thought pops up or when I’m just working and a negative thought comes up about like, “You’re not being productive enough.” Or whatever. It’s always like, “Wait, I am doing my best first of all, and second, I would never say this to a friend. I would never treat them the way that I am.” Unconsciously you repeat treating myself all day long. So, I think that’s a really good exercise to have, to just start taking that step back and being like, “Wait, would I ever say this to a friend? Probably not. I should be a little bit kinder to myself.” And I think that helps in the long run. And I know that self-healing is a long journey. Self-love is a long journey. And I think it’s just about integrating these daily practices that take you one step closer. So it’s not about that all or nothing. It’s like, “I loved myself so much and I’m never going to love myself again.” It’s like, “No. How can I love myself a little bit better today? What one thing can I do for myself today?” And I think when you take it like those baby steps and it becomes less of this monumental challenge of reaching self-love and it’s just like, “Okay, I can do this for myself today, pat in the back, I did it.” Rose: I think that’s a really nice way to end the podcast Nati. I’m just thinking about those small steps, but breaking it down, every journey starts with a single step, right? So, take those small steps, do something small for yourself today and you can be on your way. So, thank you Nati for being on the podcast, and we’ll put the links to your website and those kinds of things in the show notes, but just so people can hear it. Can you just tell people your website address? Nati Valderrama: Yeah. It’s, and the Instagram is also Nati Valderrama altogether. Rose: Excellent. All right. Thank you so much for joining me. Nati Valderrama: Thank you Rose. Have a lovely day. Announcer: Thank you for listening to the Numerologist Podcast. If you loved it, make sure you subscribe and don’t forget to check the show notes for an extra special free gift.   The post Episode #28: Unlock the Magic of Self-Love with Nati Valderrama appeared first on
Hi Numerologist community, thank you once again for joining me for another episode of the Numerologist Podcast. In this episode, we’re joined again by our resident numerology expert, Roy Kirkland! Throughout this special episode, we are diving deeper into the world of Numerology with the Pinnacle Numbers. What will you discover about your divine path? Stay tuned to find out. So, without further ado, let’s welcome back Roy! Listen below or on your favorite platform…     Here’s what we discuss: What are the Pinnacle Numbers Why it’s so important to know what your Pinnacle Numbers are How the Pinnacle Numbers are calculated What the Pinnacle Numbers will reveal about your unique path Show Links Your Free Numerology Report – Your Special Podcast Gift: As a thank you for joining us here on the Numerologist Podcast, we’re giving you access to a very special video report which delves into the deepest levels of your numerology chart to help you understand who you are. Get Your FREE Numerology Video Report Here:  http:/   Full Transcript Announcer: Welcome to the Numerologist podcast, where we bring you a very special guest every single week to help guide you on your spiritual journey, live with abundance and inspire your soul. Rose: Hi, Numerologist community. Welcome back to another episode of the Numerologist podcast. So happy to have you with us once again. Now today, we have Roy with us again and we’re going to be talking about another numerology topic. Rose: And this one is kind of a bit of a lead on from what we spoke about with Roy last time. So, last time, we talked about the life cycle numbers. And this time, we’re going to be talking about the Pinnacle numbers. Rose: So, firstly, welcome. Roy: Hi. Rose: I actually think I just got that wrong. So, it’s not Pinnacle numbers, right? It’s the Pinnacle. Roy: Yeah, it’s the Pinnacles. I don’t know why they chose the name that they chose when these were discovered back in the early 20th century, but it’s a good, appropriate name, because the pinnacle is like a height, like the top of the thing. Roy: Actually, the technical definite definition of a pinnacle are those pointed spires that sit on the top of columns of like churches and universities. You know how very often one will be built with four towers, the pinnacle is the thing that goes on top of the tower. Rose: Yeah. Roy: Yeah, the very highest point. And that’s sort of supposed to be an idea but the pinnacle so like. In other words, they’re sort of like the high point of that period of time. You see the number that expresses that period of time best. And I like using the Pinnacles, even though they don’t explain what they are or what they’re about that much in the numerology books. They just tell you how to calculate them and say this number is this and that number is that. Roy: But actually, when you think your way through, they become very effective system of working with numerology because they use the entire Life Path, the whole set of numbers and they bridge from one to another. And they also have very distinct qualities that are important to everybody. Roy: But first, before we start talking about all of that about what they are and what they offer us, I want to talk about the calculation. The calculation is really simple, really simple. What you do is that you take the Life Path number and reduce it to a single digit. Roy: In other words, if you have an 11 Life Path, then it becomes a two. If you have a 22 lifepath, it becomes a four. There’s a reason for producing them like this that way because the way you get the first Pinnacle, the time of the first Pinnacle, is that you subtract that from 36. Roy: So, say for instance, you have a person whose Life Path of eight. You subtract the eight from 36 and you come up with … I was waiting for your answer. Twenty eight. Rose: I’m sorry. It’s rather early in the morning here and my math skills are the best [inaudible 00:03:41]. Roy: I know what you mean. I know what you mean. I wake up having sort of a geometric hypnogogic images because of the stuff I study. I like watching a sacred geometry hallucination. Then I realized, hey, this isn’t a dream. I’m waking up. Anyway- Rose: More on that a different day I think Roy: So, what you do is that you take the 36, which is four cycles of nine in a person’s life. You remove the Life Path number from it. So, if a person has a Life Path number of five, that means the first Pinnacle ends at 31, at age 31, because 36 minus five is 31. Roy: Then the next Pinnacle goes for nine years and the Pinnacle following that one goes for nine more years. And after that, we’re into the last Pinnacle, which lasts for the rest of the lifetime. Roy: Now, one thing to notice that people with lower Life Path numbers take longer to reach the second Pinnacle than those with the larger Life Path numbers like eight, nine, so on and so forth. And that’s just simply the mechanics of the system. In other words, if a person has a Life Path number of two, and that applies to 11s and 22s as well, for Life Path numbers like two, you’re only subtracting two from the 36, which means they don’t get to the second Pinnacle until age 34. As opposed to someone who has a Life Path number of nine. You subtract the nine from the 36 and they start theirs at 27. Roy: And the reason is kind of because of the experience of people with these different Life Paths. A person with one, for instance, a one Life Path struggles a lot and works really hard to achieve what they want to achieve. And sometimes they’ll change their mind about what it is they want to achieve in their life. And then by the time they get to 35, they begin to settle in, as long as one isn’t the second Pinnacle, which could be [inaudible 00:06:17]. But it’s like this is the way we work the ages. Roy: So, now we have all four ages set. The first Pinnacle is the Life Path taken away from 36. The second and third Life Paths and nine numbers each and the last one goes for the rest of the lifetime. Roy: Now, let’s talk about the names next. I was going to talk about the different numbers first. But let’s talk about their names first. Okay? Rose: Yeah. Roy: Well, the first Pinnacle … I think I’m going to bundle these two together. I’m feeling a little adventurous. So, the first Pinnacle is called the Pinnacle of Attainment. This is exactly the same number as the achievement number reduced to a number between one and nine. Now, first we’ve reduced the month, day and year numbers so that each one is a number between one and nine. Roy: The first Pinnacle value is found by adding together the month and day, which is the same result as the achievement number. Now, it’s also possible to do this in such a way that you’ll get an 11. Well, that 11 can remain as the number. It’s just a little bit more advanced method of interpretation. But the achievement number is the number we’re going to be discussing next week. Roy: It’s one of the most important numbers in the chart because it tells us about the experiences of the younger years up to usually in the late teens or 20s, in which a person gains most of their experience in life. The achievement number stays around for the whole life, but the actual experiences one has under that first Pinnacle are the experiences that build their character and personality. Roy: Now, let’s say a person has an achievement number of five like they were born on March the 2nd or March the 11th, somebody escapes that. Rose: Yeah. No, that’s made good memory. Roy: The five is one in which a young person has a lot of life experience when they’re young. They experience more than a lot of people except for maybe nines, during their early years, teenage years, so on and so forth. And it’s perfectly the way we describe the first Pinnacle, perfectly the way we describe the first Pinnacle. So, when you see the name written as Pinnacle of Attainment, it’s the attainment of that personality, the development of the various complexes and fears and hopes and so on and so forth, that a person settles into adult life with. Roy: All right. And like I said, it’s very interesting, but the people with the earlier achievement numbers tend to come to the end of their first Pinnacles later in life and that’s very interesting because it’ll show you someone who has an achievement number of one, for instance, like they were born on September the 1st or something like that really hasn’t decided what it is they really want to do with themselves until they get to age 35 and get used to all the things that happened under the achievement number. It’s quite an interesting thing. Roy: And I know it from experience with people of all numbers that this is one that really, really, it’s a take it to the bank prediction, sitting doing a reading with someone. Roy: Now, the second Pinnacle is the sum of the day and the year numbers. So, for instance, a person born in 1982 has a year a number of … Well, 1982 is like a one, so this would be your number of one. All right, the way I get that is that I think fast and usually group them into two number groups. The first one is 19, that’s the one and eight is nine, and two makes it 11, two. So, a person born in 1982 has a year number of one. Roy: So, if we go back to our date and we add the birthday number to this number, to the one, then we come up with the number of the second Pinnacle. This is called the Pinnacle of Obligation, and represents a period of nine years, in which the person is busy of their career trying to make it, climb the ladder to success. If you’re working in the corporate world, it’s one thing. If you’re in business for themselves, they’re doing stuff like construction, contracting or something like that. This is where they’re proving themselves to their customers, to the world, to their clients, and so on and so forth. Roy: This is when an artist or musician usually has the greatest successes. If they left that long, there’s that curse of rock and roll thing that seems to have terminated a lot of popular artists in the 1960s or early ’70s or something, like Jim Morrison and Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin. And then they call that … and even Bruce Lee died, I think he was 33 years old, 32 or 33 years old. But like all these people were dying back in those days. And of course, the conspiracy theorists made it into a thing of like, if you’re really successful or having a really good career, then your life won’t last very long. Roy: But at any rate, the second Pinnacle is the value of the day and the year. We bring them down into their reduced form and add them together. And this tells the story of that very productive period of life in which a person is more or less obligated to prove themselves or fulfill their obligations to society. And that age depends on the nine years that start from the beginning of the second Pinnacle. So, in other words, if the person’s achievement number was a two and they started at 34, this would be from 34 to 43. You see what I mean? Nine years. Roy: Now, third Pinnacle is the sum of the first two Pinnacle values and last for another nine years. This is called the Pinnacle of Foundation. Some numerologists consider this the most important of the four Pinnacles because this is where you build the foundation for the rest of your life. Roy: In other words, this is when people have really gotten serious in putting all their energy into building a nest egg for the future, for the retirement. Maybe they have children who were coming of age during this time, and they start to have grandchildren, to build out the family, to extend it outwards, or they decide to move from an apartment from living in the city into building a home in the suburbs. Roy: All these sorts of things are what happens if a person has been a valiant knight all this period of time. It’s in the third Pinnacle that he becomes the king and sets up his legacy or dynasty or whatever. That’s the kind of thing that the third Pinnacle is about. It’s called the Pinnacle of Foundation. Now, let’s say a person had a one achievement number and they had the two year number. What we’re looking for is that the three, I think I used in the example for the person born in 1982 was one birthday number. Roy: Let’s just say for example’s sake that the numbers are one and two we’re adding together, that would mean that the third Pinnacle would be a three. In other words, the first Pinnacle value is the value of the achievement number. The second Pinnacle value is the sum of the birthday number and the year number, the birth year number. And so, the third Pinnacle value is the combination of these two. Roy: And the first pentacle value is the sum of the number that we haven’t used yet, the two numbers that we haven’t used in the sum yet from the Life Path, and that’s the month number and the year number. And this is called the Pinnacle … And boy do I hate this name. It’s called the Pinnacle of Retrospection. I don’t like the name because nobody uses that word. And when they do use it, they immediately think they use it as if it meant the same thing as hindsight. Roy: For instance, Life Path cycle, they call it the harvest cycle. That’s a good name for it because it accumulates all the benefits and joys and sorrows, et cetera from the first two cycles. Well, in this one, you’re doing the same thing. You’re going to be doing the same thing. In other words, this is the accumulation and the sorting out of your life experience. You’re not going backwards to do it. It’s just what happens during that time in a person’s life experience. Roy: Now, when you say retrospection, to me it’s always like, well, in retrospect, I would say that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, which is fine if you’re going over your life lessons. But you talk to somebody’s grandpa and ask him when was the last time they would sat down and went over their life lessons. What are you talking about? It’s just a poor choice of words. But I guess it fit for those people back in the late Victorian and Edwardian era of the early 20th century. Maybe it meant more to them and we should change it at some point in the future. Roy: And at any rate, so we have these four Pinnacles and we have an idea of those meanings of what the names are for them. But let’s just put it like this. In the first Pinnacle, you build up the character, the personality that you bring to adult life. The second period, you work to fulfill the obligations of the role that you have chosen in adult life. The third Pinnacle, you build the foundation for the rest of your life. And then the fourth Pinnacle, you live the rest of your life. Roy: And this is exactly what the Pinnacles are and they’re so easy to calculate. I usually do them mentally, but before I did them mentally, I used to do them on paper napkins in a restaurant or a piece of the back of a receipt or something that I happened to have in my wallet if the person didn’t happen to be carrying a notebook, because they’re so easy to remember. Roy: How do you put it, month and day and then the day and year, and then the sum of those two and then the month and year. Boom, that’s it. Those are the Pinnacles. Well, I hope I haven’t confused you too much. Rose: No, I think that little summary was actually quite good because as you’ve been talking, I’ve been frantically scrolling down my numbers and having a look at those things as well. Roy: Yeah. Rose: So, when we first started talking about this, you mentioned that you had some tricks and tips that you could help us understand our Pinnacles better. Can we talk about them now? Roy: Okay. Yeah, sure. Let’s see. Let me think for a second about how to break these down. But at any rate, the best way to go about interpreting these is to really think about what they’re doing. We should take a look at some of the things like this. If one of the Pinnacles agrees with the Life Path number, that period of life is going to be very steady. The ups and downs will be like hills instead of mountains. Troubles will be easy to solve, unless the things that you consciously accept it is your fate. Roy: In other words, a lot of it has to do with the attitude. The Life Path is the vibration that you’re most familiar with and the one you work with the most in your life. So, if you’ve got a good grip and handle on what that is, what opportunities that offers you and what your opportunities usually work out for you the easiest, then one that’s a Pinnacle that’s in agreement with the Life Path will be very easy. Roy: And sometimes, this doesn’t even mean that it has to be the same number of the Life Path. Sometimes it can mean that it’s a number that just agrees with the Life Path by nature, what I called a friend or a frenemy. That number, like for instance, if a person has a Life Path number of eight, or let’s use a better example. Say a person has the Life Path number of seven and they get a Pinnacle of three. Three is the best number for seven because it forces them outside of themselves. Roy: Sevens tend to withdraw and live a life that’s kind of private, worst case scenario and they become loners. The guys you see wearing the black jeans and hoodies and sitting in the corner by themselves. That’s the worst case scenario of a seven. Roy: But the three brings them out. The three makes them more social and it’s a very good number. So, it’s considered a very agreeable number to seven. So, if the person is having a three Pinnacle and their Life Path is seven, then this is going to be a very smooth period. Things will sort of balance out. And if you look at it, a lot of these numbers, something that a lot of people don’t know is that if you look at the numbers from one to nine, five isn’t exactly the middle and you almost always are in agreement with the numbers that are on the same distance from either side. Roy: In other words, in one direction from the five, we have six and then seven. And from the other direction, we have four and then three and they match really well, just like six and four match really well. But these agreements, like I said, I’ve got a whole talk about that called friends and frenemies that we’re going to be doing about how a standard compatibility is like an illusion. And this is really about what is important for each of the numbers. But that’s for the future. This is now. Roy: All right. Now, one of the Pinnacles agrees with your birthday number. You’ll find it easy to focus on and act on what’s important for success in whatever you’re doing during that time. Opportunities will come to help you build your inner strength. So, let’s say a person has a birthday number of four and the third Pinnacle happens to be a four, or happens to be a six, then that would turn out to be a very powerful Pinnacle for them because when a four gets focused on something, they won’t let go. They will do it until it’s done. Roy: And since the third Pinnacle is building up for the future, is creating the future, then that four will end up having exactly what they want, as long as they’re willing to put in the effort. You see what I mean? Roy: So, this is the four in the sixth period and that’s a good trick to use, the Pinnacle that agrees with the birthday number. In fact, if it’s even the same as the birthday number, it’ll tend to be easier than when it comes as a double number in other places. Because sometimes the double numbers mean too much of that particular energy. Like in the personal gears, it’s very common to see something happen like a person finds out they’re a four. Roy: And you mentioned, well, this is a four-person year, and they say, “Oh, yeah, that was like the worst year of my life.” You’ll find that that happens a lot. And it’s simply because it’s too much of that one number. You know what I mean? Roy: But with the Pinnacles, it’s a little bit different because these Pinnacles are like opportunities. And if a person is focused on capitalizing on the opportunities, then it turns out to be one of the best years ever. In other words, the opportunities just come more one right after another. And they’re not in short succession, that they make things difficult for them. You see what I mean? Rose: Absolutely. Roy: Now, yeah. If one of them agrees with the soul urge or the heart’s desire, which I think is the most important of the main numbers and it is, in my opinion, opportunities will present themselves that can move you forward toward fulfilling your deepest desires, which is a big subject in itself because most people don’t even know what they want, what their deepest desires are. Roy: I mean, they know what people expected of them and they know what will make them look cool or feel cool in the eyes of others, or what society is presented to them as being their best option to live a happy life and so on. But this may or may not be the same as the desires that the soul urge wants to fulfill. You see. That’s why they call it that. Roy: That’s also why they call it the heart’s desire because it’s something that’s really deep within and we’ll talk more about that when we’re doing name numbers. But if one of the Pinnacles agrees with the soul urge, just put a big, huge green light on there and work toward finding out what your true desires are. Roy: And there’s even an easy exercise for that. Make a list of things that you want and things that you really, really, really want. I don’t mean things like a box of toothpicks. I mean things that you really, really want in life. And you just go through the list and when you write it out, you’ll start getting the feeling like a wait a minute, this isn’t really that important. Oh, wait a minute, I can go get one of those next time I’m at the store. This isn’t a shopping list. You know what I mean? Roy: So, once you’ve come to the place where you’ve got a list like that, that you really believe to be something that’s a true heart’s desire, a really deep desire, and these can be things as well as things like … Well, it needs to be specific. I mean, if you just say, “I want love.” That’s kind of general. It’s like you want to be specific about do you want a solid relationship? Do you want to have a candy bar that they just made called the love bar? What is it that you mean by that? What do you mean by that? Roy: But anyway, and you start working with this little list and you can laminate it or put it in a little booklet or something like that or something that you carry with you that sturdy and you look at it every chance you get, go through that list every chance you get. And the trick to making it work right is you don’t tell anybody about the list or what you’re doing with it. In other words, it’s like joining the fight club. Don’t tell anyone about the fight club. Rose: I love that analogy. Roy: Yeah. But at any rate, it comes from an old book from the 1930s, a little pamphlet on success by a guy who was one of the most successful salesman in America. And you can use this technique to help yourself look for those deep desires that you have within you, what you want to be, the person you imagine yourself as in the future. Is that really who you want to be in the future? Or do you want it to be something completely different. Roy: And of course, be realistic about it. I mean, at my age, and even though I’m in fairly good physical condition, I’m not going to win the Boston Marathon or become a mass astronaut or something like that. Roy: But it’s about being realistic about who you are and what you want to do. Well anyway, let’s move on. Let’s get another one of these, because I’ll be going over that subject in great depth when we get to the soul urge. Okay? Rose: Yup. Roy: Now, if one of the Pinnacles agrees with your expression number, then your choices and decisions about what you want in the future or where you want the future to go will generally be correct. And I don’t mean choices and decisions about what kind of hamburger you want. I mean, things like you’re looking for a car and you see this really neat little two-seater that looks just perfect for you. Oh, this is just what I want. Roy: And then all of a sudden, your spouse comes home and says, “Guess what. We got a job right next door to the most beautiful national park in the whole country and blah, blah, blah.” And you realize, like, oh boy, I should have bought an SUV. That won’t happen if you have a Pinnacle that agrees exactly with your expression number. Roy: So, say for instance, your expression is three. If you get a three Pinnacle, most of the big decisions you make during that period of time, and even some of the small ones, you might find yourself suddenly obsessed to go out and buy a parka and find out that the next year, somebody invites you to a ski vacation, and it’ll be the first time you’ve ever wanted. Roy: Things like that happen with these agreements of pulling the numbers, okay? If one of the Pinnacles agrees with the major life challenge, it’s going to be an intense period. But if you work hard to achieve the objective that the challenge represents, then you will uplift all the numbers in your chart. And when I say uplift the numbers, I think I’ve mentioned this before when we talked about the life challenges, the uplift is that all the numbers carry both negative and positive characteristics. So, use that one language. Roy: The default is to tend to go towards negative characteristics because those are generally the easiest for human beings to work with. All right. And a lot of people uplift their chart by doing things like meditation, spiritual retreats, yoga, tai chi, all these kinds of things that imply the growth of wisdom and so on and so forth, that imply a closer connection with the soul urge. You see. Roy: But the challenges, that’s what nature gives us to balance the chart, to balance the whole chart. In other words, by overcoming the challenge, you uplift all the numbers in your chart so that you’re getting more of the positive qualities of those numbers. And the negative ones seem to start fading away. Roy: And this even has to do with things like depression and may even have to do with allergies and so on. I’ve heard miraculous stories about people spontaneously overcoming allergies because they got in touch with their inner selves and loss of fear of something, which is what this allergy was expressing in the physical life. But at any rate, that’s another subject. Roy: Now, during the second and third Pinnacles, the fifth year after the Pinnacle begins is likely to bring a pivotal kind of event or some kind of major change, depending on the number of the Pinnacles. In other words, if you’re having a six Pinnacle, in your third year, the third Pinnacle has number six as it’s a value, then the fifth year of those nine years is likely to bring something like a major change of residence, or the purchase of a home or something of that nature, something having to do with the domestic life takes a radical turn of events. Roy: And this is especially true, if the number of the Pinnacles happens to be the same as the person year number that’s active then during that fifth year. That one’s a little complicated. So, let me go over it again. Roy: When we have nine years, five is in the center and five represents change anyway. So, it often means a change of direction of the way that number is working. It doesn’t matter which one of the Pinnacles it is. It’s the year that we’re talking about, the fifth year. Now, if the fifth year, looking at it from personal years, happens to be the same number as the Pinnacle, then you can be almost guaranteed you’re going to get that kind of turn around. Roy: In other words, if the fifth year of the cycle of the nine years happens to be at six in the case before, you can predict that the person’s going to move by home, something’s going to happen to radically change the environment in which they live. You can take that prediction to the back it will happen. Roy: And one thing to know about the Pinnacles is that whereas we gauge the Life Path cycles by the person years which begin at the beginning of the calendar year, the Pinnacles change on the birthday. So, in other words, if you’re coming to the end of your first Pinnacle, it won’t be a January the 1st of your X year, it’ll be your so and so birthday. Roy: In other words, a person that has five that has five as the Life Path, they will go into their second Pinnacle on their 31st birthday. You see what I mean? They always change on the birthday. That’s why they work so well together with the name numbers who the dynamic alphabet changes on the birthdays year at the same time. So, we get a good way of saying how the Pinnacles and the name numbers fit together. The way of doing that with the Life Path cycles, it’s a little bit contrived. But with the Pinnacle, it works beautifully. Roy: Third Pinnacle lays the foundation for the remainder of the life. As I said before, this is really important. Never forget that. A lot of people think that there are … How do you put it, that all of the Pinnacles are of the same importance, but if you look at the first, the first being the character building, the development of the various issues that people carry with them, being the creation of the personality and character and the fact that there are 16 achievement numbers and not just nine and this sort of thing is what shows the variance in these Pinnacles and the achievement number can be the same on any Life Path. Roy: But that third Pinnacle, the one that is the month and year numbers added together is the one that lays the foundation for the remainder of the life. And if a person is born with a high number, like say for instance, nine, their first Pinnacle is over at age 27, then we have two more nine years, which would be 36 and 45. At 45 years old, they’re going into this last period, which means that between 36 and 45, they’re going to be laying the foundation for what happens from 45 for the rest of their lifetime. Roy: Maybe in the future when we’re half-machine and half-human, you’ll have to stretch that out a little bit because we’ll live for 200 years, unless we have termination dates built into our implants. Rose: Oh, well, it’ll definitely have to have a kill switch, right? Roy: Like in those sci-fi movies. Rose: Yeah. Roy: Oh, I just saw one recently that was really good about that, about how people were trading off years. They had figured out a way to hack the system that were trading years. So, if you wanted somebody to do your really big favor, instead of paying them off a bunch of money, you paid some extra years on to their lifetime. Rose: Oh gosh. It’s all good when you’ve got a lot of years ahead of you. But anyway, that is definitely a story for another day. Roy: Yeah. Well, that’s why this is so important. This third period is so important. You see what I mean? Rose: Yes. Roy: And so, the third period is so important. So, it’s like the first period is so important, that will build your personality. The first builds your personality, the third builds your future. Rose: Okay. So, I’ve got all of my critical numbers written down now. So, can we talk about what do they mean? Let’s talk about the numbers themselves and how they manifest through the Pinnacles. What do each one of my Pinnacle numbers mean for me? Roy: Well, you mean yours specifically? Rose: No. Roy: Just in general? Rose: Just in general, but I’m going to apply everything you say to my own. Roy: Well, the easiest way to do this, of course, when you’re analyzing Pinnacles and personal years, it’s really important to look at them within the context of like the Life Path number, what the achievement number is, what the Life Path cycles that they’re formed under or about in order to get some background information. And without doing that, it really doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to talk about specifics of each of the four Pinnacles or how these numbers work out in each of the four Pinnacles. Roy: But what I did was that I made up a little list of the nine numbers. And the most general way you can express their nature during any of the four pinnacles, for instance, one means individualism, this is when the person is in the process of creating themselves through their interaction with the world around them. And that’s going to be what happens, whether the person is eight or 80, how it’ll work the same way in all the pinnacles. Roy: And also achievement. In other words, the person is driven to achieve something whatever it is, whether they want to become the best finger painter in kindergarten, or whether they’re competing for the top salesman of the year at a major corporation. It’s this idea of achievement that’s like a driving force for them if they have a Pinnacle with the number one. Roy: Two, generally has to do with cooperation and alliances. We know from the nature of two that it’s the teamwork number, the team players number, and so on and so forth. And very often, it’s about building up alliances and this is especially important in that third pillar when you’re working toward the future, because if you have a two number, the people that you befriend and surround yourself with are the people that you’ll probably be with for a very long period of time, well into the future. So, choose wisely is all I have to say. Roy: Third one is about self-expression. It’s also said to be pleasant number. In other words, three Pinnacle is generally considered to be pleasant, but they also say it’s about self-expression. In other words, this is when a person really is not so much a determination, but the opportunity to express oneself really means something during this period of time. Roy: Generally, it’s an enjoyable period though. And that’s where a lot of the self-expression comes in. A person who’s not a rock star or something like that will probably be spending more time with their friends and ranting about what goes on at work or people in the news or whatever people rant about nowadays and so on and so forth. Roy: Four, the four has to do with organization, with getting oneself organized with accomplishing things. And when I say accomplishment what I mean is that four is a number that wants to get stuff done. Maybe a little stubborn during that period of time or a little frustrated with people trying to interfere with their processes and so on. But if four is a Pinnacle number, it’s definitely this urge to accomplish something that’s driving it, driving that desire or that project or hobby or whatever it is they find themselves doing. It’s also about organization. Roy: This organization is something that’s very useful for them both at work and at home. I don’t mean that the person all of a sudden gets a case of OCD. But I do mean that the person thinks about making life better by simplifying what goes on around them. And that’s the drive to simplify, to organize, to make things solid, having things in the right place, and so on and so forth. Roy: Five, now, this is the Pinnacle of change in freedom. Now, freedom is a funny kind of thing because it carries a lot of responsibility with it. A person can be responsible with the freedom they have or they can be irresponsible and become what’s the word, commitment-phobic, and so on and so forth. They don’t want to stick with anything because it starts interfering with what they perceive to be their freedom. But the only real freedom comes from, how do I put it, self-discipline. Roy: And the reason I say that is because self-discipline leads to freedom from worry, freedom from the fear of the unexpected, and so on and so forth. Because you know what to do, you know what you’re capable of, and so on and so forth because you’ve trained yourself in that way. And this is an opportunity that five can bring, as well as change. And of course, every change brings some kind of opportunity with it. And once a person knows how to look within that change and find the opportunity and drag it out of there, then it certainly does fulfill the promise of this Pinnacle or the opportunity of this Pinnacle. Roy: So, five can be among the best of all Pinnacle, as long as a person has the discipline to stay on the path that they have chosen and to accept their own adaptability, the adaptability that’s given to them during a five Pinnacle. Four sometimes have a difficult time. People who have say, for instance, a Life Path four or achievement number four, when they go into that second Pinnacle, if it’s a five, they have some degree of trouble because they want things to stay as they are. Roy: And they’ll try to force this sense of change and freedom to adapt to them instead of adapting to the changes around them. And that can be very difficult for some people, especially people in businesses that aren’t keeping up with the times. Let’s think of it that way. Or businesses who are too far ahead of the times and won’t compromise and scale their work back a little bit. You see. This is for insoluble five Pinnacle. It can be challenging. All right. Roy: Six has to do with duties, responsibility and success to a great degree. Six is a very powerful number in terms of success because it tends to bring opportunities from other people. It also gives a strong sense of responsibility. A person will usually live up to their word and do what they’re supposed to, and sometimes not do what they’re not supposed to because they’re sympathetic to what the person who asked them to do it. But generally, that’s what this has to do with one’s life duties and responsibility. Roy: A six coming in that third Pinnacle is like a blessing from above. Because if the person has been a fairly good at living their life in terms of living to achieve what they want out of life, what their long-term plans are, if they come with a six and the third period, it will definitely group them in a foundational mode. In other words, they know they’re building towards the future and they won’t stop. Roy: The seven has to do with wisdom and knowledge. Now, I often take this example when I’m talking about seven to people who are thinking that the seven, oh, the spiritual number, this is the magic number. Seven can be part of anyone’s life. Some of the best athletes, some of the best musicians, and some of the best lawyers in the world are sevens. And the reason is because seven is the bridge between the everyday realm and the hidden realm. And the person seems to have that kind of blessing as long as they know how to tune into it. Roy: So, there’s wisdom and knowledge connected with the seven This knowledge is like the knowledge of breakthrough knowledge and discoveries and talent for invention or creating new ad slogans or something like that. So, the period of seven can be very beautiful for anyone, unless they take that period of seven and try to use it to run the rat race out there and climb the corporate ladder and stuff like that. This is a period where miracle is more likely to happen. Roy: I often associate seven with being the number of the role of success. Outside of being the number of [inaudible 00:51:01] switch basically designed to work on the basis of moral authority that has been derived through human history and experience and religion, and so on and so forth. This is law. Law really is the natural law. Roy: Eight has to do with material achievements and accomplishment. Now, this material success doesn’t just mean a whole lot of money. It means comfort. It means security. It means establishing yourself in a way that your authority has risen to a great height, okay. It also means sharing this with someone else. In other words, the person with … I think it was Napoleon Hill that made a big point in his books like Think And Grow Rich, and so on and so forth, that nobody is really successful without their work, their products, their knowledge, something like that being shared with other people. Roy: A successful company is a person who hires a lot of employees and treats them well. In other words, they become responsible for a lot of lives. But there are also a lot of people who thank that person because he’s given them a good job or she’s given them an opportunity to take care of all the responsibilities. This is what material success is. Material success is the success of … Somebody once said, happiness is getting what you want, but success is wanting what you get. Roy: In other words, a person who’s grateful for their lives because it’s exactly what nurtures them and what takes care of them is a person who has nothing to complain about, that’s eight. That’s how the eight can work. Of course, it has to do with money too, because money is a part of that. I mean, let’s face it, this is the world. The world is expensive. But at any rate, the nine often has to do with greatness because the nine is the biggest of the nine numbers and it encompasses all the characteristics of all the other numbers. Roy: And you find nines who accidentally achieve some kind of greatness in their lives or unknown for something really big and important that affects the lives of a lot of people. You also find a lot of nines who aspire to that greatness. But by using certain types of means, they end up in trouble for it. Roy: I think there was a lion in Harry Potter, the one that tells Harry, he mentioned something about someone achieving great things. And he didn’t mean good things necessarily, but great. In other words, it wasn’t a big deal what they did, whether they did good or bad. And also nine is the number of completion. So, it means that the person is pretty much focused on who they are, what they are. They’ve completed themselves and they like to bring into things that doesn’t mean that there are killer, but it does mean that they’re the kind of person who comes in and finishes the job. Roy: The completion of a product, for instance, is when it goes out to market when you let it go out to market and then it has its effect on the world and brings huge returns that it does, according to the kind of effect that you put out into the world. So, it’s also a number of completion. Roy: Now, all of these are things that will definitely be themes underlying any of the four Pinnacles. As far as the more accurate analysis of these Pinnacles are concern, the various things can modify, as I mentioned before, like Life Path cycles, Life Path itself and the achievement number. For instance, a person can have an achievement number of 33. Roy: When we use it for the calculations, we reduce it to six, but that 33 must be considered in looking at the Pinnacles. You see what I mean. And not just be considered as a six but be considered as a 33, the person who’s the teacher, who’s willing to sacrifice anything in order to do the right thing, and so on and so forth. Roy: So, we have people born on dates like March 30th, April 29th, and so on that get this 33 achievement number. And it’s a tough path. But it’s important to know that these numbers 33, 22, and even karmic numbers like 14 and 16, will affect the way that Pinnacle operates. You see what I mean? Roy: Like the 16 for instance is a seven. But if it carries that karmic number 16, that means that if one of their Pinnacles is a seven, they will tend to want to look behind the curtain and see what’s going on under the surface of life, but they may not do it. Their experience may have taught them to be more practical in their outlook and in their way of doing things. Roy: So, what ends up happening is that that seven automatically carries a meaning of you need to cultivate your intuition. And this is definitely 100% given if a person has that particular achievement number and the seven Pinnacle comes along. And I mean, I’ve seen hundreds of examples of the way these things work out. But these basic guidelines for the Pinnacles are something that can be followed. Roy: In other words, this is the starting point from the bottom. In other words, when you’re picking the Pinnacles, you’re sort of picking your shoes. But you want to make sure that they go with the rest of the outfit. Rose: Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Roy: Yeah. Rose: Absolutely. There is so much to learn about the Pinnacles and I think we might need to wrap up now because we’ve been talking about this for a little while. But where can we get more information about what they might bring in working with other aspects of the chart? Roy: Well, I think that the best thing to do is to get a numerology chart test because those of us who work for are doing the best to bring you the most clear and accurate interpretations that we can possibly do. And sources for other consistent and accurate writings are hard to find. And we can always refer you to some of the rare odd books that have some good stuff in them at some point in the future. But I think these are really important. Roy: And the best place to get information about the Pinnacles is to take these basic ideas and go over what the previous Pinnacle was like and what you learn from it, what you experienced during those times and trying to associate those experiences with the theme. You’ll see certain stuff in there and from other things you know about the numbers, you can pick it up. Roy: In other words, I think that there is no better teacher of numerology than one’s life experiences. So, as a matter of fact, I’ve used life experience to correct people’s horoscope when their birth time is inaccurate and it’s a lot of people, believe me. But they’re pretty much the same way. Roy: The Pinnacles I believe are like the foundation and the structure of the chart, of the Life Path chart and they’re about the experiences that come your way as opposed to your responses and effects. Those mostly come from the name numbers. And the Pinnacles are much close to Earth so to speak than the experiences we get from the Life Path cycles and so on. So, that makes them easier to work with. Roy: And you want to talk about interpretation Pinnacles, these can be divided down into yearly Pinnacles, four Pinnacles per year or four Pinnacles a month or four Pinnacles a day even. But that’s a little bit of a different subject. Rose: Yeah. Roy: I think we need to close up. Rose: Yeah, I think I would be constantly doing calculations if I was doing it four Pinnacles a day. It is funny to know that your life is kind of … You can break them up into these four different sections, right? Roy: Yeah. It makes for a good system of categorizing opportunities, I guess you could say. In other words, each of these numbers is an opportunity. Each of the numbers on the Life Path, all of the numbers come from the birthday are all opportunities. Roy: In other words, a five comes. This might give you the opportunity to do something you’ve never done before. Is it a good opportunity? Is it a bad number opportunity? Is it something that you really need in life? Those kind of things can be answered by the name numbers, by the soul urge and the personality number because they’re the ones who determine what your real goals are, and so on and so forth. Roy: So, they sort of work together from deep within and from outside in the world. They sort of work together to meet up and make up different possibilities in your life because they’re all potentials. It’s never fate. It’s never the kind of thing where the gods have decreed that you live this way and it’s proven by that’s the best way people could explain it back in those days, but we understand what they are now. These are opportunities, just like your DNA is not an opportunity but living in a house with a gym in it is an opportunity to get the best out of that DNA with some resistance, and so on and so forth. Rose: Absolutely. All right. Well, thank you again, Roy. We’re going to wrap up there. And I just want to make sure our numerologist community knows that they can head over to to read our blog and read a whole range of other articles and information about numerology. I’ll actually put some links in the show notes to some blogs there that you might find interesting that are related to this. Rose: And also, make sure you subscribe to this podcast if you’re enjoying it. Subscribing helps us reach more people with this podcast, which is always trying to do really. So, thank you once again, Roy. And we’ll be speaking next time about the achievement number, which I’m really excited about. Roy: Yeah, yeah. It’s like my favorite number. Yeah, okay. All right. Well, I’ll be happy to talk to you then, two weeks, same time, same channel. Rose: Absolutely. Roy: Yeah. Announcer: Thank you for listening to the Numerologist podcast. If you loved it, make sure you subscribe and don’t forget to check the show notes for an extra special free gift.     The post Episode #27: The Pinnacle Numbers Explained with Roy Kirkland appeared first on
Hi Numerologist community, thank you once again for joining me for another episode of the Numerologist Podcast. In this episode, we’re joined by Stella Wilde. Now, Stella is a self-confessed word conjurer, tarot illuminator, cosmic interpreter and dream manifester. As an intuitive adviser, Stella is on a mission to help her clients awaken, align and advance. From her YouTube channel, to her one-on-one soul sessions, Stella combines tarot with astrology to provide her audience with intuitive guidance from the Universe. Tune into this special episode to discover how you can manifest your dreams and live the life you’ve always wanted! Listen below or on your favorite platform…     Here’s what we discuss: How to empower yourself and follow your dreams Stella’s YouTube journey How the Law of Attraction worked for Stella (&how it can work for you too!) How Tarot and Astrology can illuminate the path ahead! Show Links Your Free Numerology Report – Visit Stella’s Website: Visit Stella’s YouTube Channel HERE Check Out Stella’s book – 2020 and You: Horoscopes for All Zodiac Signs Your Special Podcast Gift: As a thank you for joining us here on the Numerologist Podcast, we’re giving you access to a very special video report which delves into the deepest levels of your numerology chart to help you understand who you are. Get Your FREE Numerology Video Report Here:  http:/     Full Transcript Announcer: Welcome to The Numerologist Podcast, where we bring you a very special guest every single week to help guide you on your spiritual journey. Live with abundance and inspire your soul. Rose: Hi, Numerologist fans. Welcome to another episode of The Numerologist Podcast with me Rose. In today’s podcast, we are talking to Stella Wilde. Now, Stella is a self-confessed word conjurer, tarot illuminator, cosmic interpreter and dream manifester. As an intuitive adviser, Stella is on a mission to help her clients awaken, align and advance. From her YouTube channel, to her one-on-one soul sessions, Stella combines tarot with astrology to provide her audience with intuitive insights from the universe. Please join me in welcoming Stella. Hi, Stella. Welcome to the podcast. Stella: Hi Rose. Thanks for having me. Rose: Thank you so much for joining us. So you are a lady of many talents. You’ve got very many things that you’ve kind of described yourself. So I’m just going to read these out that I found on your bio. So you’re a word conjurer, a tarot illuminator, cosmic interpreter, and dream manifester. So can you tell me what those descriptions mean to you and how they sum up who you are? Stella: Sure. You can tell that a poet wrote that, right? Because I do have an MFA in poetry, so words and word choice are very important to me. So I was trying to find a way to describe myself that felt just little more soul aligned. So yeah, word conjurer because words are really important and they create spells, right? Every word is a spell, if you think about it. Right? Dream manifester; I’d like to encourage people to follow their dreams, follow their hearts. So I like to be very encouraging in that way. And tarot illuminator; yes, bringing out the many layers of the tarot. Absolutely. And what was the other one? Cosmic. Cosmic. [crosstalk 00:02:13]. Rose: There was cosmic interpreter. Stella: Cosmic interpreter, that’s a fancy way of saying I follow the stars and interpret them for you as an astrologer. Rose: So let’s break it down a bit. So that sort of you in your bio. What is it that you do? Stella: Wow. [crosstalk 00:02:34]. Oh my gosh. I’m somebody who helps people empower themselves and follow their dreams. And the tools I use are astrology and tarot. So primarily, I mean, I’m interested in a lot of other things as well; creative writing, law of attraction principles, lots of different things, but that’s… Really, I mean, if I had to kind of just boil it down into something a little more basic, I would call myself an empowerment coach. Really. Rose: Perfect. Now you did just mentioned, you use those two different methods of divination. You use tarot and astrology. Can you tell me how those two work together and why do you think it’s important to use those two things together? Stella: Sure. I first would like to address this idea of divination though, because it’s a little bit of a tricky word. For me it’s about really accessing your own divine energies. And that’s why I say in my videos on my channel that, “Use the energy, don’t let it use you.” These are energies you can work with. I do not want people to feel like this is what is written. You have free will. You can make a choice to use that energy, however it fits your life. I want people to feel empowered. Not just passive victims of, “Oh, the cards say this therefore…” So that’s where I come from too, when I do my astrology and my tarot, because they are tools for insight and illumination to help us figure out some of our talents. Of course, some of our areas where we need further development and how can we use both of those to really illumine our path and show us a way forward. But I really feel it’s up to the individual. I can show you certain things in a chart, and then I can do a tarot reading and show you how those two energies are connecting, but then it’s up to you to say, “Okay, yeah, that energy is coming up. I’m going to be dealing with that for a year, based on the transit in my chart.” And then, “Okay, here’s a potential happening in the reading. How can I merge those two together for myself and find my way forward?” Rose: Absolutely. Now, in terms of astrology, you have got a few different things up your sleeve. You launched… What was your astrology book called? It’s the One Year Ahead Astrology Book. Oh, you’ve got to write that. There you go. Stella: Right here. It’s right here. Rose: So can you tell me a bit about that? Stella: Yeah. It’s 2020 and You. I’ve always wanted to write a horoscope column, which I have been doing on my website for about a year and a half now. And I’ve always wanted to write about astrology, like much more in depth. And I thought, “Well, what better way to do that than to do a 2020 year ahead book?” Because I already knew that this year was going to be kind of crazy. So this is like, “Let me just go for it. Let’s start with the hardest year, astrologically speaking, and just go for it.” So yeah, I wrote it in about two months. And of course they’ll publish it on Amazon and I can’t wait to do the one for 2021. And I basically organized the book through the major aspects for the year ahead. So it’s not just like a chapter on this sign, a chapter on that sign. It’s really the meat, because there are so many things going on this year. [crosstalk 00:06:02]. Rose: It’s so funny when I talk to astrologers, they say, “We always knew there was something that had happened this year. We just couldn’t quite put off in [inaudible 00:06:12]. Can you tell me about how it felt when you writing this book? What was the energy telling you? Stella: Well, the theme for the year, I called it the year of radical reinvention, because it’s like, this energy does not play. This is longterm transformational energy, and it’s like… I was just writing and thinking… Because I also know how it hits my own chart. So I was like, “Oh God”, but I just felt like it really was a point of no return. That there would be a point of no return for people, and that there were going to have to be a lot of hard decisions, but not just one fork in the road, multiple forks in the road, as the energy played out over the year. And that it would be really a lot of calling out of inauthentic stuff. This energy, yes, is challenging but, I mean in my opinion, it’s helpful. In that we’ve had to face a lot of things that we’re just not aligned with, and the change process for that and letting it go, yes, it’s not easy but it’s also a gift. Rose: Absolutely. I’m sure our podcast listeners are sick of me saying this, but it’s all about perspective, right? Stella: Yes. Absolutely. And I always try… I mean, I’m an Aries, right? And I got Jupiter, very prominently in my chart. I’m always looking at the optimistic glass is half full. That’s just how I am, so. Rose: I’m going to go off on a bit of a tangent here, but let’s talk about… You mentioned, you looked at the year, but then you looked at the year in terms of your chart as well. How important is it for people to not just look at the energies in a general sense, but also look inside and within their own chart? Stella: Well, you mean as if somebody writing a horoscope or just [crosstalk 00:08:09]. Rose: Oh no. No, for example, I’m a Pisces and my chart is all over the place. How would it be important for me to look into my own personal chart when I’m looking at the energies of this year? Not necessarily me writing it but me navigating it. Stella: Right, absolutely. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, because that’s the thing, right? You can watch or listen… Read a horoscope, watch a video whatever, on your sun sign, but it’s not going to give you the whole picture as if you actually looked at your chart and knew, “Oh, guess what? My sun is at 20 degrees Pisces”, which is, maybe would put you around March 9th, 10th, 11th birthday. And you’re going to get hammered by Neptune right now. It’s over your sun, but you wouldn’t that unless you knew what was going on with the energies right now, and where your personal planets are. Rose: Yep. Stella: Yes. Rose: That was good intuition, by the way. My birthday is March 11th. Stella: Oh, I must be psychic. Rose: Well, let’s talk about that. Do you have psychic ability? Do you have [inaudible 00:09:18]? Stella: Yes. Rose: So how do you define yourself there? Or do you define yourself? I suppose that’s a better question. Stella: Yeah. I prefer the term intuitive, but… And I do have mediumistic capabilities, but I don’t advertise that either. I don’t label myself as that because in my own practice, I’m very ethical and very honest, it’s inconsistent. So I will not say, I am a medium. Sometimes I can really tap into it and other times, I can’t, in terms of people who’ve passed on. But that is kind of a little niche but not a talent that I have. But yes, I have a lot of… If you look at somebody’s chart, you can see where their intuitive abilities may be indicated, “Stronger intuit…” We all have intuition, but stronger intuitive capabilities are indicated in a natal chart. And I have several signatures of that in my chart. So yes. Rose: It’s not just your chart. It’s that you have spirituality in your blood. Can you tell me about your background and how you sort of came to this life of spirituality? Stella: I’ve just always been a little different. I used to joke that a UFO dropped me on my parents’ doorstep because I always felt kind of out of sync with everybody else for several reasons. And yeah, so I’ve just always been interested in poetry, literature, music, and… You know, my family, I love them dearly, but they have a much more, shall we say, pragmatic background. And since I was a kid, I was always interested in all of those types of things. I think I have strong past life connections to monastic life and things like that. I really feel that very deeply, but yeah, I mean, I worked in a church for a time as well, in the 90s. Yeah, I worked for a congregational church, so I’ve always felt called to that kind of spiritual contemplate of life. I have a life path number seven. So it’s… Yeah. Rose: Did I read that it was your great grandma who used to read [inaudible 00:11:40]? Stella: Yes, she did. I never got to meet her unfortunately, but yes, she apparently used to do that and had quite a following in her Long Island neighborhood. Yes. She was the original Long Island mystic medium, whatever. Rose: Oh, that’s funny. Isn’t it? I know you [crosstalk 00:11:58]. Stella: I knew you’d say that. [crosstalk 00:12:01] And my mother would teach… My mother was a Pisces and she was very very intuitive. And she would say as a little girl, she would just kind of sit on the sidelines and watch her grandma do these things and it was fascinating, so. Rose: Yeah, absolutely. So at what point did you say, “Okay, this is who I am. This is the direction in life I’m taking and this is the business I want to build for myself”? Stella: The business… It’s interesting. I’ve always wanted to work for myself, so that was like a given. And I’ve always had kind of little different side entrepreneurial things, ever since… Long time ago. But in terms of turning this into a business, I only did it very recently. I had what I like to call a very long apprenticeship for various reasons, but… Yeah. So, I mean, I’ve been like a [inaudible 00:12:57]… This has been part of my life for so long. It’s really just this is who I am. I was doing astrology charts by hand when I was 12. It was just like something that I I’ve always been interested in. And yeah, it was in… Let’s see, when was it? 2018, I started from the business perspective, but I’ve been doing readings for 30 years. I just… [crosstalk 00:13:25]. Rose: Sorry to cut you off. What made you go take things onto YouTube and do the readings on YouTube? Stella: Well, YouTube is where it’s at. And my Mars and Leo loves to entertain. So natural medium for me. I love video and it’s fun. And so it’s a good way to connect with people. Rose: Absolutely. And you know, I find a lot of people that I talk to, love to get on YouTube, and they’ve just started YouTube for doing their own readings and practicing and those kinds of things. And they build this amazing following, which is great. It’s a great community of people you can connect with from all over the world, which is amazing. Stella: Yes, yes. I am a great YouTube fan. Yeah, I love it. Rose: Absolutely. Now, talking of community, we did actually get a few questions from our audience of our community, which I’d like to just ask you. There are quite a lot, so we’ll see how many we get through. Stella: Okay. Rose: So the first question is about soulmates and how to manifest a soulmate? Stella: How to manifest a soulmate. A twin flame or a soulmate? Rose: Well, this one’s specifically soulmate, but we can talk about both. Stella: Okay. Well, first of all, I have problems with labels and I really have problems with those labels, honestly, because how about like how to manifest someone who is going to help you grow personally and teach you some things about yourself? How about just that? I mean, but you know… [inaudible 00:15:08] my gold, I’ve been around the block, I’m like, “Soulmate.” [Inaudible 00:15:10]. Right? I’m rolling my eyes. But no, I think it’s great. I feel like first of all, there’s several different manifestation techniques you can use, depending on what you’re drawn to. But I find, the thing that works the best, whether you’re trying to manifest love, money, success, whatever, is scripting, is journaling, is writing it down as if it has already happened, and being extremely grateful for the fact that it’s already happened. Rose: All right. So the next question is, “How did the law of attraction work for you in your life?” Stella: Oh my gosh, this is my favorite story to tell. Rose: Oh good. Stella: I’m telling you. I wrote a blog post about this as well, which you can read on my blog. It’s amazing how this thing works. So like I said, I’m a writer. I mean, I have two advanced degrees in writing, like that is my go to. Other people, they do other things. That’s fine. So back in the summer of 2014, I was really in just a bad place with my then full-time job, and I was feeling disgusted, et cetera. As many of us can get at one point or another in our lives, and I was just writing every morning. I want to write and I want to travel, every morning. So six months later, I got a call from an old friend and I had had a dream about him the night before. And he called me about four days later. I hadn’t heard from him in like, I don’t know, four years or something. I had this dream that I was with him. I was talking to him, whatever. He calls me and he said, “Hey, I have this business proposition for you. We need somebody to come to Istanbul and do some writing and we’ll pay your expenses.” And I was in Istanbul two and a half months later. Rose: Wow. Stella: Yeah. So it works. Rose: That was powerful. Stella: It works. But I had it in my mind that I was going to Paris because that’s one of my favorite places. I thought, “Oh, somehow…” Like that would manifest somehow, but the universe had a different plan for me because I kept it open enough that the desire was just, “I want to write and travel.” The trip I ended up taking was magnificent, better than anything I could’ve imagined so. Rose: That’s incredible. And it shows that when it’s time… You know, and when you sort of put it out there to the universe, it gives you something in a way that you may not necessarily have asked for specifically. And like you said, you kept it open, which is really a really good tip, I think. Stella: Yeah. Well, I think it’s good to know what you want and be somewhat specific. It was really just… I mean, honestly at that point because I just wanted out of that job, I would have probably gone anywhere. [inaudible 00:17:56] I mean, it was open in that sense, yes, but I think we need to leave room for magic to enter our lives. Even when sometimes I work with clients, I try to gently introduce that idea because sometimes… I mean, I have Mercury and Taurus, so I get it. We can get so stubbornly fixated on one thing. But what if it’s something better? Leave room for that. Rose: Absolutely. You don’t know what you don’t know, do you? Stella: Yeah. Rose: Yeah. All right. What next? We’re going back to tarot now. This is a question about tarot for beginners. “For someone just starting with reading tarot cards, where should they begin? What’s the first step to learning how to read tarot cards?” Stella: Well, practice every day. And I would say get yourself a good book, but I’m old school, I like books. Okay. Yes, you can find a lot of stuff on the internet, but have a book that you really like. My first book was… It’s Nancy Garen’s book, trying to remember the exact title of it. It’s G-A-R-E-N, Nancy Garen. Awesome, awesome book that… I mean, you should see the book, it’s like black on the side of it, thumbing through it. I still have it from the early 90s thumbing through it. And I did reading, after reading, after reading for myself, and just kept looking things up and then just starting to play with it. The other thing too, I would say is, for people just starting out, instead of trying to get overwhelmed and learn like the celtic cross, just pull a card a day. Maybe you can do that. Pull three cards. Learn how to work with managing your own wishful thinking. It’s very important and recording and seeing patterns too, when you ask certain questions and what cards come up, if they come up, what energies come up again and again, and paying attention to that. Managing your own wishful thinking and practice. Practice with real people. I mean, tell them, “Hey, I’m practicing. I’m new at this.” And just have fun. I mean, have fun with it, but also look at it as, I feel one of the best ways is that, it is a story. It is a story and a good reader makes a story. Makes the connections out of the patterns and the imagery. So anybody can sit there and say, “Oh, this means this.” Anybody can do that. But if you really want to do this to deepen the practice for yourself, to read for other people, it’s about making the connections. And telling and seeing the threads of the story. Rose: And it’s interesting you said, “Manage your own wishful thinking” as well, because I think a lot of people set out and think, “I’m going to learn tarot today.” You just mentioned, you’ve got a book since the 90s and it’s had so much use. Like you still using it today, I’m assuming. It’s that lifelong thing, isn’t it? You don’t just learn it now. It’s constantly an evolution. Stella: Right. I mean, like I said, I had a very long apprenticeship. For various reasons, because of things in my personal life and I was doing other things with writing and teaching and all of that. But I think it’s important to allow yourself to be an apprentice and I think that’s a really good point to emphasize. I mean, you don’t maybe have to do it for 25 years the way I did as being an apprentice, but yeah, definitely allow yourself time to learn and grow. Because it is a lot, but of course, the more you do it and the more you practice, the more you read, the more you study, you get better and better at it and really trusting your own intuition. And really learning it for yourself. While it’s great to watch other readers, I mean, don’t get me wrong. It’s great. But find your own style, find your own way of understanding the energies also. Don’t be copycat, copying other people, what they’re doing. Find your unique voice. Same thing with writing, right? The same concept. Rose: It’s actually funny you say that because I went to… There’s a psychic expo on down the road last week. And I went to a tarot reader last week. I haven’t been actively learning tarot or anything like that, but I do obviously get the content coming in from the tarot experts every week from Numerologist. This is something that I’d like to put to you, because the tarot reader, she brought out these cards and the way she read them isn’t necessarily… I may not be an expert, at all. The way she read them, wasn’t necessarily the way that I would read them. So the reading that she gave me didn’t resonate, but the reading I gave myself did. What would you say about that? Stella: Right. And see, this is what’s interesting, right? Just like how, when we read a poem by a certain poet, “Oh, we get it. We love it.” Blah, blah, blah. We read another poem by another poet, and you’re like, “What? What was that?” So it’s the same thing, but I would say the bottom line with that especially is, take what resonated for you. Those cards did come out in that reading for a reason for you. And yes, maybe it was for you to kind of get your own message out of it, not maybe what she was saying. So it’s always checking your own intuitive barometer with your own feeling with that. But then of course it is a fine line between that and wishful thinking sometimes. So it’s kind of like you have to just be brutally honest with yourself and be like, “All right, was I just kind of wanting to hear what I wanted to hear? Was there maybe a tiny kernel truth in what she said? Can I just [inaudible 00:23:47] or no?” Rose: And I think the thing as well with that is… It’s what we were talking about just before. About the universe giving you something in a way that you didn’t necessarily expected. So who knows what my next 12 months might look like? It might be absolutely spot on. Stella: But I think the other thing too is, you know too when the energy itself doesn’t feel right. I mean, that’s another thing too. I think we’ve all had experiences like that. I know I have, where yeah, you get to read it and you just feel like there’s a layer of like slimy goo on you. You just feel like something, like, “What was that?” So, yeah. Rose: Okay. Now I just want to talk about tarot misconceptions, because I think one of them we just talked about was the fact that you can’t just learn tarot like that. Are there any other misconceptions that you kind of come across from time to time? Stella: Well, one of the things that really bothers me is when people just dismiss it out of hand or label it, you know I hate labels. Label it as evil or something. Taro, of course, was invented many many hundreds of years ago. And then, of course, modified by various people along the way but the Rider Waite, in particular, I mean, has its basis in Christian symbols. And so for you to say, it’s anti-Christian, not you personally, but for someone to say it’s anti-Christian or it’s evil, it’s the devil. Well, Arthur Waite, I mean, he was coming at it from a very spiritual perspective and in fact, ended up breaking with the Golden Dawn over what he was doing with the tarot because Yates and all those people were much more into more of the occult stuff and Waite was going in a much more spiritual Christian direction. So that’s one thing that really annoys me. That is a misconception. Rose: Yeah, absolutely. And that’s an interesting thing to say. And I have said this a few times. Again, I feel like my listeners might think I’m a bit of a broken record, but it’s one of those things that hopefully like everything spirituality is becoming a bit more mainstream and a bit more widely accepted, because you know, a lot of my friends now have tarot decks and they have oracle cards and those kinds of things. And I think 10 years ago, that would be extremely… You wouldn’t be putting that on social media. You wouldn’t be outwardly saying that, “I read tarot” and all those kinds of things, because it was seen as woo woo and a bit out there, but it’s becoming a bit more mainstream. Do you find that too? Stella: Yes, because I am a little bit older than you, Rose. I do remember the 70s when yeah… I mean, you could go to the local Five and Dime, which is where I used to go in my neighborhood and buy like Linda Goodman’s Sun Signs and Sydney Omarr’s Astrology Book for the Year Ahead, all that kind of stuff. I don’t know what happened in the 80s and 90s, but all of a sudden, there was this something, I don’t know, stigma, whatever, but it’s so refreshing to see the resurgence of astrology and tarot and oracle cards and all these opportunities for people to really empower themselves with these tools and learn more about themselves and what makes them tick and they can actualize their gifts and their soul purpose. So yeah. Rose: Absolutely. All right. I’m just going to have a look at some of the questions that we got, “What are the yes/no reading in tarot?” Stella: I guess if people are asking, “Okay. I want to know, is this going to happen or not?” And you just pull and whatever the card is. So if it’s something upside down, it’s probably a no, depending on what the card is, but, you know… Rose: Yeah. Stella: [crosstalk 00:27:41] a yes. It might be a yes with conditions, if the card is upright and depending on what it is, so. Rose: So that’s a very difficult question, isn’t it? Because we’ve just talked about the fact that tarot is not definitive. It’s all about perspective. It’s about the way you read it. So it’s not a yes or no type of practice. Right? Stella: Right. Because what if the answer was the death card upright? Well, yes, but you’re going to have to make a big change. Are you willing to do that? “Well, no.” Okay. Then your answer is no. Because it’s always comes down to the individual. You need to empower yourself. That is so important. Never give your power away to a reader, to an astrologer, to anybody. It always comes back to you. But by that being said, be open minded enough to listen to the information and take your guidance from it. You’re always the final yes or no. Rose: I probably should have asked this question at the very start, but the question is, “What if manifestation? Can you explain it for beginners?” Stella: Manifestation for beginners? Well, you have a desire and you ask, believe and receive. And you do the alignment work to bring that situation or thing or whatever it is, into being. There’s a lot that goes into it. Rose: Absolutely. I think a perfect example of that was you writing every day, “I want to write, I want to travel”, and it coming to fruition. So what are some easy techniques then for beginners to start manifesting their desires and their dreams? Stella: Oh definitely. Well, two, I swear by are; is my little morning practice, and you don’t have to do it every morning. I don’t do it every morning. Most mornings I do. I keep a journal. So I just write down what the hell is going on. And then… Just to get it out, whatever’s bothering me. Don’t leave stuff stuck inside of you. Get it out because that energy in there doesn’t help your alignment or your manifestation. And then keep a manifestation journal dated. You can imagine… You can do all sorts of things. You can have the gratitude practice, “I am so happy and grateful now that so-and-so has happened.” Whatever it is. “I am someone who is blah, blah, blah.” Like if you’re trying to manifest a certain aspect, “I am someone who is 10 pounds lighter.” Whatever it is. I’m manifesting that one. You can write letters to the universe, co-creating with you, “Dear universe, thank you for co-creating with me, this brand new opportunity to do blah, blah, blah.” Again, That it’s already happened. Date them, consistently do them, and as Neville Goddard says, “The vision will arrive at its own appointed hour.” That’s my favorite quote. Do your work, keep the faith. And that’s the thing; people don’t have patience in general. In our quick society, like Instagram. No, it’s not like an Instagram moment. It takes time for things to manifest, but they will if you keep the faith, hold the vision, do the work. I really believe that. Rose: Absolutely. So this question is about quick daily habits to increase one’s manifestation prowess. But I think that kind of links to what we’ve just been talking about. Right? Patience and consistency. Stella: Patience and consistency. And then anything you can do to just really clear out stale energy also. Whether that’s a decluttering, sagging, the… I know it sounds like the cliche and everybody talks about Marie Kondo and all that, but I mean really, Marie Kondo your life, like get the junk out that really no longer speaks to what you’re trying to create. I’ve been working on that too. I have a lot of stuff that is really things from past lives like… This life but past life that I got to get rid of. Like it doesn’t speak to who I am becoming in the world. And that’s the thing to ask yourself, “Who am I trying to become in the world? And with all this stuff around me is not aligned with that vision, why is it here?” Because that’s what I’m seeing every day. So I’m like reaffirming that old vision rather than making space for the new thing to come in. Rose: Absolutely. Now before we finish, I just want to go back to your book that we were talking about just before [crosstalk 00:32:11]. Stella: Oh sure. Rose: And I’ll have two questions. The first question is, what does the rest of the year look like? And most specifically I’m asking, it’s still time to buy your 2020 book, right? There’s still plenty to go on the last half of the years. Stella: Yes. Well the big news, of course, is Mars and Aries for six months into January of 2021. And Mars will go retrograde and it’s going to square Pluto, Saturn and Jupiter and Capricorn. So depending again on how that’s going to affect your chart, but particularly people… Aries, Libra, Capricorn, Cancer individuals… This is what I feel. It’s like the energy’s like… I mean, it’s such a cliche, but it does work. Like you’re the butterfly, you got to halfway out of the chrysalis and those wings are struggling and you’re in that in between, and you’re like, “God, do I even want to do this?” When Mars goes retrograde, you’re like, “Do I really want to do this and get out of this, whatever that cocoon has meant for you in your life. And it’s going to be… Yeah, you don’t have a choice. You got to get out. But that Mars retrograde period, there is a kind of sticky full moon, the middle of October. So we just kind of try not to let it throw us too much, bend down the hatchet, so to speak. Stay in alignment. There’s going to be a lot that’s going to want to throw us off our track. For sure. But reassess wherever areas falls in your chart those two months, and then we have a big November 30th full moon. I think it’s… Yes, the full moon in Gemini, November 30th. And that’ll be another release point. And then we have that big eclipse, December 14th in Sagittarius, new moon solar eclipse. So a lot of beginnings can start from whatever we finally truly… Some old role that we let go of in our lives. And we’re just still trying to figure out what pieces to take with us, what our wings, the colors of our wings, what they’re going to look like. And when we figure that out, we’re going to be ready to fly in the middle of December. And of course we have Jupiter-Saturn conjunction, December 21st, the solstice’s whole new 20 year cycle for everybody in a different area of your chart. So yeah. We’re refining a few things this fall. Rose: Yeah, absolutely. My second question is, have you started to look into next year yet and started to write his book? Stella: Yes. And it was very funny, is that I did a couple of readings last week and I had been thinking so much about 2021. I kept saying 2021 when I was doing the readings, I’m like, “Wait a minute. We’re not there yet.” I guess I’m trying to fast forward out of 2020, you know. Rose: I think a lot of people are. Stella: Yeah. So yeah, I mean, the big news next year, of course, is Saturn squaring runs into [inaudible 00:35:21] Aquarius squaring. So that’s going to be an interesting energy to look at. But we’ll thankfully get out of all of this craziness. Pluto will still be in Capricorn obviously, but there’ll be some interesting moments next year, but I’m hoping not as intense as this year. Rose: Absolutely. Now, where can we get your books? Are they on your website? Stella: They are on Amazon. Rose: Okay, great. We’ll put a link to your book in the description here. And also we’ll put a link to your website, because you do your soul session readings, which combine the astrology and tarot as well. So people can go there, to the website. So can you just say your website so people can hear it? Stella: Yes. It’s Wilde with an E. Rose: Awesome. All right, well thank you so much Stella for being on the podcast. We’ve really enjoyed talking to you. Stella: Thank you so much Rose. I really appreciate it. 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