On the Gist, revisiting the travel ban.In the interview, we talk with Susan Hennessey and Benjamin Wittes, the editors of Lawfare, about their new book, Unmaking the Presidency: Donald Trump's War on the World's Most Powerful Office. They discuss the precedents that Trump has broken as POTUS and paint a stark picture of the future of the executive office if he is re-elected.In the spiel, “a bunch of dopes and babies.”Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices