On the Gist, Trump is deserving of a trial, and a lot more.In the interview, what are the consequences of putting Trump through a Senate trial? Mike does some game theory with Joe Lockhart about the possible implications for Republicans and Democrats when it comes to voting for, and possibly convicting the former president. Lockhart is former press secretary for President Clinton, partner at strategic comms group Rational360, and a CNN political analyst. In the spiel, mask on, mask off. But seriously keep your mask on.Email us at [email protected] production by Margaret Kelley and Cheyna Roth.Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices