Elma, Emily and James are joined by an integral part of the BBC’s rugby commentary team on television and radio, Radio 5 live’s Sara Orchard. Together they discuss smashing the glass ceiling, Harry Potter, World Cup 2003, dealing with sexism, and how you handle big moments in games. And, in the aftermath of a new £7 million pound deal for women's football coverage on television, how far away is rugby from something similar?