Conversation with Great Minds: Jonathan M. Katz, author of 2 books including his latest, Gangsters of Capitalism: Smedley Butler, the Marines, and the Making and Breaking of America's Empire. The Horrible Lesson Rightwing Radicalism Has Taught America Unmasked. If we can’t stop this disintegration of trust in America & the ability to reform and make our government work for all people, apathy will turn it over to the hard right, ending the American experiment.

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