Book One ends, but we're still arguing the premise of the book.

How is this thing structured anyway? 

All about El’s name. 

Paradise Lost, huh?  Does Milton’s view of history have anything to do with this book?  What are we supposed to derive from Paradise Lost similarities? Oh boy, here’s where we start going off the rails. 

If Maeve refers to a brain “simulation” does that completely negate the conceit of a digital afterlife?  What is the humanity of this book?  Is it a dog staring at your finger?  Are these people dead or not?   More arguing about “Brain in a Jar” stories. 

Is this all leading to characters suiciding themselves, or just Pluto? 

Did this book need more philosophical underpinnings explained?

Is the book sympathetic to human experience or is the humanty’s next hurdle getting over our meat bodies? 

Is this the fall of an idealist after all the rich guys suck up to Trump? 

The cold horniness of the scifi writer.  A lack of character interiority. 

Is bitworld boring or an enjoyable  read?

Is it a problem when scifi writers are overly cerebral, or is that an unfair knock from literary fiction fans?    

Arguing digital religion with friends. 

For all the disagreement, we can agree that the trans character is done very wrong.  Way to misread the room.  She’s not treated with the contempt that HR people are subjected to at least. 

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