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born a good afternoon good evening wherever
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you are out there in the world how about
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we all step out onto the high wire
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well as through out the pandemic
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the pandemic seem to be the propaganda
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machine for all the ridiculous
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laws and rules that were sort of thrown
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upon us so i think is particularly
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important when we start seeing hollywood
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celebrities coming out against
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politics especially the politics
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of california soon to be the head
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of these recoding measures and as and
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this time it's a doctor
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one of america's favorite doctors
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coming out against a recently passed
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bill the yoga this
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they could explain how draconian this law
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is twenty ninety the state of california literally
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would be the case that if you we're
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about if i was evaluated patients are you come
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in your my patients and you come in you
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say the cdc recommends
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i get this new i'm a crime the
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vaccine this by the vaccine i'm
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concerned because of what i'm reading suggested
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was only studied on mice and
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of i say anything other
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the standards
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what what would it be standard ship
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empty slogans as specified
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by the academic and the
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bureaucratic structure which would be you're
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over sixty years old is recommended that you
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get this booster if i follow the protests
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if i said for instance are
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you worried he was date on mice are
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, recommended my patients over
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sixty five certainly over seventy five
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is worth the risk risk is anna
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seen very very similar vaccines in
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influenza and this influenza how
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we do with influenza every year we don't test and sirleaf
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in humans every year so that there's a protocol
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out there but if you were thirty
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years old i would say you know that was adjusted though
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said he came out of in circulation last
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this week that suggested that
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in men under forty the risk of my part i this
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is five times higher from the modern
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a vaccine than from covert itself
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right there i would qualify
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as misinformation even though it's factually
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accurate it's a merely
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meet discussing what's available
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in the medical literature with
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my patients that say that patient was angry
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for some reason that they should make
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out anonymous complaint to the state and
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here he could go home ago you know what mom
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and dad and brother and sister you
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guys are like you to make the complaint to here's here's
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a my complaint as much modify
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well a bit a bit some he said in the public as dad
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and like either so add that to it's each
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one of those complaints would be dealt
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with as though a police reports
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have been filed for a criminal actions
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will require a full response with
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citations and will take months
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and months and may require hiring an attorney
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for each case that is what
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they are doing it is absolutely
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out of control i'm sure they're going to to oh no
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no would never use it like that course
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they don't intended that's how these laws
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have unintended effect it will be absolute
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chilling on the practice of medicine
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will become almost impossible the
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practice medicine the way we are trained to
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which is to use our objective reasoning to
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share ideas with our patients and
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to come up with the best possible recommendation
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for that particular patient for that particular
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circumstance
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well obviously we discussed
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his last week the bill ab to
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zero nine eight has got doctor
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drew all pissed off this is the
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the bill that a said seats his past
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that arm allows the
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medical board to go ahead investigate
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anybody any doctor that says
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anything a basically goes against the standard
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operating procedure coming from the cd seats
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visit california bill doc spreading misinformation
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is unprofessional conduct
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and we think about this i said this i went off on
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his last week at the same moment the cdc
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saying they basically got everything wrong
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still releasing a relaxing all
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of those regulations when it comes to social
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distancing en masse and even
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vaccinate your where you can go because none
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of it worked there were dead wrong on all
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of it but every doctor that came
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out against it had issues but i think
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one of the points he's making we suggest real
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down a little bit more he saw him out
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the new booster shots or that
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involves the ahmed from virus they decide
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to sort of you know update the the
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are booster shot with all the crimes
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and instead of like doing a human
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trials they decided to do a
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mouse firebirds even worse that he
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wasn't just like a mouse foul deciding the
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fate of millions if not billions of people
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around the world it was a three
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tiered mice and what not
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to do get recycled to his other
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we'll talk out about this you know talk against
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this would you know more bags just
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like many people who were the out about this look
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at this this is what some the com is that were made about this
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trial and twenty one is a j by the cari
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us in twenty twenty one the by the administration
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fauzi and the cbc made a bet
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on the basis of incomplete randomized
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trial data us that the bass would stop
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kirby transmission not vax
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mandates and discrimination followed for
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the new boozer summer making the same bats
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based on data from eight mice
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this is ian miller if intellectually
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honest media still existed it
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would probably a bigger story that new boost or
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those was authorized will be relentlessly
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promoted based entirely on data
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from a mice and this
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is represented very miller the bad enough the
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a is authorized the new probably booster space
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or data from eight my is the last time the f
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d a approved boosters to see your at the
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a officials design is time for serious
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oversight reform as the of yeah you saved
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and that lastly our favorite doctor
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or so today's the of the a revival
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of be a five boosters because
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of an unspecified emergencies
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the booster was tested on drama oh
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eight mice that's it
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it would be given a millions of people next week's
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this is not gallows humor just
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gallows
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i mean really is
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outrageous in a what you had to think about as
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the try to say it's just like the flu shots
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or the flu shots been used for decades is
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that when they update that's they decide they don't
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have the cp trials that efficacy trials
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all over again i think they should actually i've
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been arguing that for a long time is still
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a different products i don't care what they say so but insists
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circumstances they never did a proper long
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term city trials because they put it out
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during emergency use authorization so
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we have no idea of long term effects
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we still have no idea of long term effects always
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your football players and soccer players and softball
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players slimy headfirst into the ground
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stars and comedians and people dying
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suddenly and asleep everywhere we look we
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see a rise in excess mortality
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all over the planet earth as ten
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obvious ways well zapper list
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oh with this eyes adjust duplicate it without
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any further review well we'll throw
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eight myself the voyeuristic out see that
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as they can afford fifty miles roderick
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most or how about a thousand mice and
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you saw this study is a disaster know
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mouse jobs out the said they literally or
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all big affected in different ways but
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i wanna say this to doctor drew though it's really
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great that you're speaking the truth now it's
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pretty much a day later dollars your where
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were you when all the people were gathered
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at the capital of the last several weeks trying to
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fight this bill for you
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the your moms and dads out there trying to
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fight for you the doctors where were
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you
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when you could have made a difference in imagine
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doctor drew a view to walk to the politicians
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offices and set it off on one of america's
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favorite dogs as on television and i'm totally
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against this bill you know i would love
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to see it is you just decide to every
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once in awhile be brave
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stuff bobsled for what you
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actually care about like your own career
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and the future of medicine as we know it
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all right
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let me just calm down here a second
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to really huge sale com and up and i also
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want to talk about you know what it means to
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be a good doctor doctor drew is is
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is afraid of sir stepping out there
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and doing was right about the doctors
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that have been stepping out there i want to talk
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to one of them right now middle talk about
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doctor paul thomas who is been there
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all the front lines at state capitals
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standing in front of medical boards taking
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on bringing the truth out from his own
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practice on what's going on with children and
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now got a lawsuit take a look at this was
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i must take it into the mates this is
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how you do it's portland pediatrician
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files a thirty five million dollars defamation
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suit against state medical board
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members i like that a heck
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of lot better than wanting about a law that you didn't
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do anything about when it mattered so let's
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talk to doctor paul thomas right now
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he joins me ah
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you know first of all as or there's
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a lot of people that don't know who you are
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so just to be a sense of how
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you really got yourself in trouble very
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quickly would you back vs on back study
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a doubt great to be on the show with you your cracking
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me up with this all the story but yeah
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so here's what happens fourteen years
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ago i started my practice integrated pediatrics i
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left a mainstream group practice because i
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was seeing kids are getting harmed by
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vaccines that was pretty clear it was just
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bam bam so i started practicing
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we aren't informed consent well overtime
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the medical board got wind of this i
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guess or maybe was the publication my birth
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of the vaccine friendly plants whatever they
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started coming after me and then they'll never
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has been by the way folks for me just pointed out
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our heels i got blown frugal as
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understand a doctor paul we have
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like millions more followers every time
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you come on this show so i wanted to make
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sure everyone knows the work that you're doing for
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those of you out there that requests your vaccines
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are want to dip your toes your book is a vaccine
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family plan which is sort of lay out a
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safer way to vaccinate sort of spreading
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the mountain maybe a different schedules if you're is
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this is insisting that approach or
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up so continue on okay
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so that book was written with the best understanding
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i had back then pop right when he sixteen
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two years later them
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the board that's common with complaints now these are
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not patient generated complaints i don't know where
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they're coming from it's just actually
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they were going after my data they wanted the
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data that was in that book because that book
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showed that the and vaccinated
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patients had far less autism
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they basically had far less
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how chronic health issues so
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january twenty ninth
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the medical board sends me a letter and says prove
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that the vaccine friendly plan is as safe
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as the cdc schedule i mean
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i had the last the cdc has never done
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any study comparing one year to the next
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they've ever compared the
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vaccine schedule to know vaccines
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or to partial vacuum they just don't do that
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so they want me to do that form of that that's impossible
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and somebody had a brilliant idea hire an
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outside experts get the data so we
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did we looked at every
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single patient in my practice up
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to the point of that dataset being close we had
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ten and a half years of data it was published
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in the international journal environmental research and public
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health and this was the largest
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real world patient data
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vast on back
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it is again so again how many
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kids altogether did you have your prices you
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a huge practice their me with that the numbers
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well yeah it it was probably
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at that time we had fifteen thousand
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patients but they're looking at a data set of
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a little less than four thousand because okay we
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were only looking at the was actually
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born into my prayer oh i see okay
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see limited yeah we're born it's and let's be
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clear that think this is quite brilliant the
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cdc has never done a study
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of talked about this a lot of times institute of medicine
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verified this are in in
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in it's higher dissertation that they gave
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that they've never compare the outcomes
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of like the full of vaccine schedule
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south they asked you to do a go on a shadow
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boxing miss admission could how to use
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employer your safety to their safety
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when they've never established safety this program
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so them to be clear what you decided
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to do was okay but i
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do have a large
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group of children in my practice that use
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the cdc schedule so i have
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all of the evidence that they provided
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then i have the other ones my practice that did
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it is the cdc schedule and i can compare
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the two schedules outweighs that basically we
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decided to do wow
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close so young you are dead the looking
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at every single patient born in my
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practical got no cherry picking there was
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no we're going exclude you for this or that every
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baby born was look that we looked at every
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single office visit we stratified
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them according to the number of vaccines they
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had okay so basically
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we had over five hundred who had zero
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vaccine we had another three
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thousand seven hundred and some who had
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some vaccines and what we
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found out was actually even mind-boggling
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for myself i mean i a sense, i've
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had a practice now for 14 years where
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get to decide the one thing
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i am absolutely on, is informed consent, the
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parent, get to decide what gets into
12:54
your baby if anything you should
12:56
always insist on that or else to walk out of
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that doctor's office but because we do
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informed consent, we
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had a a number of and vaccinated
13:04
patients and what i was clearly seeing was
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these kids don't get sick they don't get chronic
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conditions while the data spoke for
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itself and you're showing your viewers the ground
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as those yarns lines are
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over time over that ten and a half years
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the more vaccines you had the worst
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you were for whether we looked at infections
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eighty d h d a narrow developmental
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issues eczema allergies it
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doesn't matter what we looked at even
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just plain all anemia skyrocket
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the vaccinated when compared to the blueline
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the and vaccinated
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this data is so
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powerful that within five
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days of it being available online they
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yanked my license december third twenty twenty
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the organ motherboard has an emergency meeting
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the spend in my license i was
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supposedly a threat to
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public health
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the maisie me really like in in they really
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should have come in the said we'd love see
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that data this is very interesting information
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since we've never done this study ourselves
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like we should have can we look at the data
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can you walk us through it they never did they ever
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do that like can you walk us through
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where your data comes from let us sort of
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cross reference it may be bringing some outside
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scientists to test you know whether
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or not you know this sort of repeats
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depending on who's looking at it right i
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did you have any offers like that no
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not nothing at all they
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i mean you're absolutely right view organ
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medical board if their interests as the health
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of the population they should have been
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the reading the news about that i credible
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difference in outcome i mean it's
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absolutely amazing
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the you been battling back and forth for
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your license you know multiple times
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where are you currently at right now with your
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license or you license in oregon yeah
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so six months later my attorney
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realized wait a minute these folks
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didn't file
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when you take someone's license emergency
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you have to simultaneously or very soon
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after that
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filed for why you're doing that there
15:03
you you you cannot just yank somebody
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his livelihood and then oh too bad
15:08
well they forgot to do that or they neglected
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to do that or whatever so they were kind
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of in trouble then he got them to agree
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i still signed this duress
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doubt because they restricted me
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from, i can't talk to patients about vaccines
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i can't talk to my staff about vaccines
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i can't see well children and can't
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do research on patients that tells
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you what they're what they're worried about, right?
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right thing
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and obviously, they're not going to to right?
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and everyone every one of the of doctors we watch,
15:45
like you just come on the show you know even
15:47
bob seger is again is back under review
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they just keep coming at you because until
15:52
they have totally crushed you
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and destroy your practice and six yards
15:56
a business did they don't seem to let up
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so he decided to
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the opposite so be on the defensive you're
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going on the op answers to tell me about the case
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yeah so dallas since they took my license
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the twenty they've had over thirty different request
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of me i mean these letters come monthly
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sometimes weekly you're absolutely right they
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allow their intent on destroying you
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have a hearing coming up in november but it's just
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kangaroo court and every single
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legal mind that including air and syria
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who i know works for you have every
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single legal mind is saying is a kangaroo
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court you will be destroyed and you're gonna
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run up a half a million dollar bill that they're
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going to force you to pay
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no i i kept looking for an
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attorney who would actually soothe them because what
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they have that is so illegal and so
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wrong and thankfully the
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junkers appear id and man
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let me
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how you we have sued the medical board
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on earth violating freedom of
16:48
speech violating due process
16:51
so they cannot it your individual
16:54
property be that my license or the destruction
16:56
of my practice fabricating
16:58
evidence right at the utilization
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of government power to violate my due process
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is on paralleled they
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have failed in their supervisory capacity
17:07
so am actually individually suing each
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member of the board and
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you know the the the ridiculousness of
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what they've done is that they're basing almost
17:17
every single allegation on the fact that i
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provide informed consent
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they want doctors
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follow the rules of the cdc i
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watch the beginning of your show and that exactly
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what is happening california you just say
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what the cdc says you're okay otherwise
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we watch your life and
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you know informed
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that is not the danger the
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knowledge or is people have sued because
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i thought it was the law did forget about the danger
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i thought was actually the law thought you
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know since we like hung a bunch of not need
17:46
own nazi doctors we
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recognize that the free informed consent
17:50
of the of the pace it was critical to
17:52
modern healthcare so the idea that we
17:54
are abandoning that's and then it's hacking
17:57
any doctor that wants to give you full would want
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to said would
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here is all the benefits you're all
18:02
the negative those here's what we don't know
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which doctor drew beautifully laid out
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yes there was only eight my studies in
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this i've been told i have to recommended
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to you and maybe if we are in and a recess
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a high risk for him he says you know i suppose
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i would recommend it's but if you're under the age of forty
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i happen to know that it causes my part
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i just had a ridiculously
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in fees race and as soon as i say that i'm in
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trouble so you know here you are but
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i want to make this point you know people
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to see this is a law suit or some sort
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of vendetta between you and your medical boards
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but right now you're you're you're
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representing the world you're representing doctor
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drew down and california's the president's
18:39
that needs to be set right now is so
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critical we need to back his medical
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boards off and allow the doctor patient
18:46
relationship to stay intact to allow you
18:48
guys to make decisions with your patience is
18:50
patient has a totally different critical
18:53
history's most the time you know their families
18:55
you know their children's you know their siblings you know
18:57
was doing all with them in a weakness as they have
18:59
you done all the blood tests and so used
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to be a be able to evaluate them separately
19:04
for what the cdc says from some back
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room bureaucrats that have never seen a patient
19:08
the last five decades or you
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know obviously very passion about this but
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how do we help you with this case because i think it's really
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critical
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thank you do i'm act absolutely
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fighting for every kid in the world we
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have got to get the power away from these
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boards that are actually changing
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as you pointed out the whole patient doctor
19:27
relationship is being destroyed
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in front of our eyes so i've got a i've
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got a website for donations and prayers
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at dr paul fight dot com and
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allies or judah you know if
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you're a prayer warrior do that
19:40
i could use all that support and if you can support
19:43
with some financial means we are going
19:45
to continue to take it to
19:47
until i am six feet under man
19:50
i'm around and up this one thank you all
19:52
of you viewers who have supported my
19:54
work so far where in this together
19:56
absolutely you know dr paul
19:59
you have been a war you're a crusader
20:01
i see you everywhere as we travel around
20:03
together and we end up you know speaker many stages
20:05
together i'm so glad you're bring
20:08
the spite to them i i hated the look
20:10
of you running in the moments that you had
20:12
to and so you're standing strong
20:14
we stand with you i support the one hundred
20:16
percent this is a very important mission so everybody
20:19
a definitely check out the website let's see it one
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more time here it is if you want to
20:23
send prayers or give a donation
20:25
dr paul fight dot com that's
20:27
where you go this guy is really doing
20:29
it folks and boy do we need
20:31
more doctors like this as we move into this crazy
20:34
future we're living into all right doctor
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paul thomas that you for your time
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all right well look i said it before
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she says every week i feel like every
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week i have like a as an
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an interview that's even more amazing
20:50
than the last week me last week
20:52
such a fantastic interview with doctor
20:54
loud pop a coming up and will sit
20:56
down with mathias desmond this
20:58
is the belgian psychologists
21:00
that out really first brought us the mass
21:03
formation concepts and his book
21:05
the psychology of to tell a terry aneurysm
21:07
arm i spoke with him when that
21:09
book was just about to come out but now
21:12
i see was savings you know we have a different
21:14
do rights the pandemic for the most most
21:16
part is on pause all the restrictions
21:18
and all that to tell surrealism has disappeared
21:21
off for the moment and i wanted to as
21:23
mathias and really get first north with
21:26
where do we go from here how did we get
21:28
here does he see it any
21:30
different now that we're looking at this in a rear view mirror
21:32
a bit then when he was in the middle of it reading
21:35
this book so all those places are coming
21:37
up right around the corner really excited
21:39
at that the first example the jackson
21:41
the for
21:50
ri
21:52
jeffrey i'm yeah i love it when we see
21:54
you know hollywood you
21:57
know celebrities starting to squirm
21:59
after they sort of silently or
22:01
even promoted these ideas
22:03
and we've seen this coming right we saw
22:05
when a comedian collapse doctor drew
22:07
interviewed her and will start to see
22:09
like you know a thread being pulled
22:12
on him where he seems have had
22:14
enough with his vaccine and now this
22:16
law is just taken over the top so maybe
22:18
someday the future will seem standing on a stays
22:20
with us when we're fighting for freedom around
22:23
the country around the world
22:24
they've got a fascinating how does rolling awakening
22:27
happens you know people that come into the
22:29
light and you know it elite is being humble
22:31
about it that's a beautiful thing they come in and
22:33
you know whether they don't or not there's a there's a lineage
22:36
of people asked up before them they're always as
22:38
even before us so it's great
22:40
to see them just being humble and just speaking
22:42
out and take him taking that truth right
22:44
to the mainstream audience that they have speed
22:46
you mainstream audience let's go over
22:48
to the uk i tv show
22:51
good morning it's a very popular morning
22:53
show their they recently went from kind
22:55
of light hearted messaging you
22:57
kind of a tone deaf dystopia
23:00
take a look at this okay
23:02
we got we got will say
23:04
you energy bills got thousand pounds
23:06
as well so this is energy bills i think
23:08
for four months if it stops on
23:11
that night so ,
23:13
you out loud your energy bills
23:15
you bit worried about the old major
23:19
yeah okay i'll get one
23:21
of these pre time of time is and is absolutely
23:23
murder now go right well
23:25
as i depends on one of those them
23:27
what are you going to win some money
23:28
marry him again and y one
23:30
way or another
23:40
no thousand
23:41
energy bill fees
23:44
, to be
23:51
email moscow
23:54
news we're paying your energy
23:56
bill for four months
23:58
the sensors
23:59
the
24:00
i were a slow release
24:02
thank you very much
24:03
listen wealth on yea that's brilliant
24:06
hawker always living closer and closer
24:09
to the hunger games years like entertainment
24:11
will he feed his family or yet
24:13
the heat is our list been with a resident
24:16
why does he survivor and i mean it's so
24:19
crazy it is so bad the right moves
24:21
energy bills literally we talked
24:23
about this it was thought about last several weeks
24:25
you know of the four five times
24:27
the amount it was last year and continuing
24:31
ah so i was amazing it it seemed
24:33
like oh really want to win the thousand pounds
24:35
thousand pounds nothing compared
24:37
to his home energy bill i'm really
24:40
amazing me what's going
24:42
on here where we at sox a
24:44
one of the big headlines recently i just came
24:46
out in this this is the ripple effect here
24:48
and this is really where it's gonna shut the have
24:51
the showdown so the european union most
24:53
of europe gets it's gas from gazprom
24:56
this pipeline in european energy prices
24:58
threat to russia cuts off and natural
25:00
gas pipeline to germany this that nord stream one
25:02
pipeline it's a russian state on
25:04
company gazprom own this
25:06
and they're basically saying you
25:08
know it's kind of fog of war right now
25:10
this is like an energy war that
25:12
we're in and russia saying
25:15
look because you the sanctions we have
25:17
a turbine that's broken one of a major turbines
25:19
that where the engine pumping stations we can't
25:21
restart the sing at least be extra work
25:24
can't go through because the the sanctions a lift
25:26
sanctions will restart it in germany
25:28
is saying is germany's the biggest importer
25:31
of russian oil over fifty percent
25:33
before the russian ukraine conflict have been trying to
25:35
cut their back obviously we've been reporting
25:37
on that ways they've been doing it but they're saying
25:40
that that's beside the sanctions you're using this as
25:42
war so you know the once i saying one thing
25:44
one side same the other but the population
25:46
is caught in the middle of this and let's
25:49
listen to so are the sanctions coming
25:51
off what is germany going to do let's
25:53
listen to their foreign minister her name is
25:55
anna lena bareback and she
25:57
recently was in public and
25:59
the to say about the sanctions takeover
26:02
i give the promise to
26:04
people in ukraine we send
26:06
with you as long as you
26:09
need us then i once to
26:11
deliver no matter what my german voter
26:13
thing but thing wanted to deliver to the people
26:16
of ukraine and this and this for
26:18
me it's important to be always
26:20
very frank and clear and this
26:22
means every measure i'm taking
26:24
i have to be clear that this holds
26:27
on as long as ukraine needs
26:29
me we are facing now winter time
26:31
where we will be challenged as democratic
26:33
politicians people will go on the
26:35
street and say we cannot price
26:37
pay or in a kid prices and
26:40
i will say yes i know so we
26:42
help you with social measures but i
26:44
don't wanna say okay then we
26:46
stop the sanctions against russia
26:48
we will send with ukraine and
26:50
this means the sectional was they also
26:53
wintertime even if it gets really
26:55
tough for put politician
26:58
the really amazing these those moments
27:00
when i look and and think i would never really wanna
27:02
be present a united states or something like that
27:04
but a shocking statement that we
27:06
a sense they were were were more committed
27:09
to the war in ukraine
27:11
then we are to our own people least you
27:13
could take it like that and i think
27:15
the same thing is we start seeing you know
27:18
or issues here financial issues
27:20
the billions of dollars being poured into some
27:22
other country and then use the worse
27:24
as were without investment be if it was
27:26
invested into our own country i'm sure
27:29
in germany as their you know as we thought
27:31
about the plane me on what's eating museums and libraries
27:33
for the elderly people are going to die over
27:35
there that this doesn't get worked out
27:38
and it just seems more important that they still stay
27:40
in his war i don't know just
27:43
really odd decision making at the moment
27:45
as we look around the world
27:47
there are an idiot and eleven of their said
27:49
that even if there's has in the winter we
27:51
don't have to wait till the winter to see the protests
27:53
were seeing these protests happening in prague right
27:55
now here's a headline of american
27:58
newspapers seventy thousand
27:59
protests in prague against jack government
28:02
you and nato of their inner
28:04
basically calling for neutrality
28:06
in the russian ukrainian war and
28:08
they're they're protesting all there are energy
28:10
prices and everything like that so this
28:13
is this is where we're going there people are taken
28:15
to the street already and that
28:17
they're identify nato it's interesting as
28:19
the north american tree organization as the inner
28:21
governmental military alliance that has been
28:24
over decades slowly surrounding russia
28:26
so it's interesting that they're they're saying
28:28
by stop at this military it is military
28:30
interventionism and and pushing
28:32
russia to this this possible
28:34
it is invasion a lot of up a lot
28:36
of historians has said that's that's really
28:38
what one of the reasons has happened here so get
28:40
a populace is very educated now with
28:42
the protesting and and their demands a specific
28:45
demands and in that article here
28:47
this is what when the organizers said he said
28:49
quo the aim of our demonstration
28:51
of the demand change mainly in solving
28:53
the issue of energy prices the special electricity
28:56
and gas which will destroy our economy
28:58
this autumn event co organizer
29:00
yari have all told idea de
29:02
de any as dot cz news
29:04
and so a couple weeks ago report
29:07
on these us pp and meters these
29:09
prepaid meters nuts with a gentleman said
29:11
in the wheel of wheel of energy their skis
29:14
things are going across the uk and
29:16
europe especially nice the headline
29:18
here there now being there now of forcing
29:20
the my customers so smart meter fury homeowners
29:23
left in two years after men broke into
29:25
house to install meter now
29:27
a couple weeks or report they are automatically going
29:29
to be switching people over these prepaid meters
29:31
to form a smart meter or were you
29:33
have to like it though the name says you have to prepay
29:36
before you get your energy and
29:38
there's obviously issues if you can't do that
29:40
and this is off janice the government regulator
29:43
for the electricity their the people that are doing this
29:45
in in in this mountain in this case but
29:47
in the uk as well and so that's
29:50
the tell you know so to speak that's the temperature
29:52
in europe which is a pretty dire
29:54
one going into the winter here how is it happened
29:57
united states what's going on here well maybe all
29:59
immigrants
29:59
i know we get it you know we were talking
30:02
about like paying off college here and things
30:04
like that which really only affects some
30:06
you know group of people that went to
30:08
college how about all those that already paid i mean we
30:10
have those discussions right but when you look
30:12
at a situation like this really honestly
30:15
this seems to me where the government of they
30:17
want to be in some war and be
30:19
involved in this thing why aren't there subsidies
30:22
happening there why are the people being
30:24
forced to sort of take the brunt of
30:26
these what a really you know geo political
30:29
situations and they're just choices
30:31
made by the politicians so we can him
30:34
again send billions of dollars over
30:36
the other nations to just blow buildings
30:38
apart and what have you but where
30:40
is it you know i think about this in the in the housing
30:42
crisis we had you know where we have been
30:44
have we just taking care of the people that own the homes
30:47
instead of bailing out banks this is the the
30:49
the type of thing that just really starts to
30:51
you know upset me i'm sure there's libertarians
30:54
out there screaming dell know you don't get it i
30:56
don't i don't fully get this this is where i
30:58
get really confused on it it does
31:00
money going out where should
31:02
it go you know shouldn't take care of
31:04
the people in a country that are paying taxes
31:06
in that country
31:08
right in you know a today these
31:11
people don't really have the appetite for war that
31:13
the used to same rover it's you or even the
31:15
iraq war works there you know
31:17
we're we're to there's a populist that was behind them
31:19
the sanctions were worth it but now it's
31:21
directly affecting people's food and energy
31:23
bills in their ability to live in heat and see their
31:25
families with with a war that's
31:27
really not that popular at mean it with outside
31:30
like the hollywood elites or the does
31:32
the mainstream media how it's interesting how the things
31:34
going to play out in on the population in prague
31:37
maybe via an example of what is the
31:39
com and united states is this is
31:41
what we're looking at here in colorado state
31:43
you're familiar with rice is a headline
31:45
coming out of their thousands of exile
31:47
customers locked out of thermostats during
31:50
energy urgency twenty
31:52
two thousand people lost control or temperatures in their
31:54
homes and we are a little
31:56
screenshot here of what that look like into
31:58
the these are the thermostat the smart thermostats
32:01
that they haven't even get a little i'm
32:04
gonna phones like the allowance and it's that
32:06
the earth's temperature lock temporarily
32:09
due to energy emergency they're calling they're calling energy
32:11
emergency now is the shocking headlines
32:14
of course but it's important understand the
32:16
people that had this happen to them the xl
32:18
customers and a lot of states have this
32:20
with xl is it it's called an x
32:23
l a c rewards
32:25
programs you actually opt into this the
32:27
when times were the the energy
32:29
is surging in those areas you
32:32
agree to let them change your
32:34
thermostat now that the
32:36
contention here was that they
32:38
were locked out so allow the customer said
32:40
look i look i went into this thinking like
32:42
and help the grid you guys can just play around with
32:44
my thermostat as you need to aid in the hot days
32:47
but they didn't know that they couldn't change they
32:49
can opt out and say look i
32:51
turn this off some might want my air conditioning
32:53
back on some rather have a hard time here that that
32:55
was a big where the big things that but in
32:57
the article and let's be clear
32:59
i mean this is just a trial on a small
33:02
group of people this is clearly were all
33:04
of these things wanna go south as you're
33:06
installing the smart meters all of your home
33:08
and your nest machines and all that i
33:10
did you read all the fine print i know
33:12
you know i read by those things because i'm not
33:14
going to sit down to it's but i'll bet you somewhere
33:17
in that fine print says that it is you know we
33:19
decide to make a deal with your energy companies
33:21
they may actually be able to jump in
33:23
here and circumvent you your cell phones
33:25
and your own energy bill was it is critical
33:28
right now is the show that these
33:30
types of measures we keep looking i'm a
33:32
nowhere and international show but
33:34
we're here in america us we'll see we'll
33:36
see these stories in other countries are all that will never
33:38
happen here i give you know the city's
33:41
us waddle on through my life's not worry
33:43
about these things but clearly that's not the case
33:45
they are working on measures to the
33:47
they can control us here to
33:49
on these exact situations i'm
33:52
so it's really is very disturbing and
33:54
it's the the fact that it's all happening at the same
33:57
time around the world just like cove
33:59
it's i just
33:59
remember
34:00
when we lived in a world where
34:02
every single nation was
34:04
like moving in the same exact direction
34:07
as the same exact time it's almost
34:09
like there's us smaller group
34:12
in charge of the entire world and
34:14
not necessarily our own political leaders
34:16
but that would be conspiracy theory and i'm
34:18
not gonna go there
34:20
we as an important to understand that the technology
34:22
obviously this framework exists these
34:24
are beta test these are iteration old technologies
34:26
that are being used and tens of thousands of people
34:28
if not more minutes one headlines but
34:30
the a couple weeks ago we we covered this
34:32
from california as well as lot happening in
34:34
that stay again and this was in california
34:37
to ban the sale of new gasoline cars
34:39
that were shock have my for lot of people but
34:41
now the california is is
34:44
experiencing as an energy crisis
34:46
of it's own because of the heat wave and
34:48
the air conditioning units been use their
34:51
so this the settling coming out to california just
34:53
after the one we just shouts california won't
34:55
let you charged the electric car while i got
34:57
rescued by constitutional you might
34:59
say i say that is like a week or two
35:01
ago rather be like of what is said as we're
35:03
going to move the fully electric cars but we're
35:05
going to have rolling blackouts so then
35:07
you're not if you're not ready for the amount
35:09
of let's a causal the road right now can you imagine
35:12
when that's all you can buy in california
35:15
this shows how right stupid this
35:17
whole thing really is
35:20
when they say rolling blackouts that's that
35:22
the next headline here california's potential
35:24
rolling blackouts or what are they
35:26
were affected this is the headline but they
35:28
they called a level three i'm
35:31
a energy emergency a nice are color coded
35:33
emergencies you know just the did see
35:35
to use to you know like like red lights
35:37
green lights discounted to scare people kind
35:39
liked one terror cove it's we've talked
35:42
about that before that the social programming on
35:44
that but would cease it was a level
35:46
three emergency apparently it has it
35:48
has reversed to the point where they're not
35:50
going to do these rolling blackouts the potential was hanging
35:52
for a couple days there but i know until
35:54
the until the temperature breaks has were told that it's
35:57
it's gonna be back and forth hopefully they
35:59
won't have to rolling blackouts understand that if
36:01
you're sitting on the side of the road chartier
36:03
tesla really blackout mean join
36:06
the energy go iowa or you're gonna in there
36:08
for another couple hours hopefully it's not nighttime
36:11
right so that that's what's happening right
36:13
now in california united states but let's
36:15
switch over now it's you something that you
36:17
know we've we've is really are bread butter on
36:19
the show it has been for last two years as
36:21
potential focus of the covert vaccination
36:24
and the mass in the lockdowns and that
36:26
started where we always seem to start it's something that
36:29
out she said this is the headline here in
36:31
this is a recent interview but i guess before he goes
36:33
out the door is going the latent zingers for
36:35
us to pick up as you slam for denies
36:37
school lockdowns are rapidly damage
36:39
kids no remorse so
36:41
he was asked if far he denied it if
36:43
if the school lockdowns if he any remorse
36:45
over those and east and i don't think they damage the kids
36:48
were fine no big deal let's move
36:50
on the best policy as policy
36:52
metre we've ever taken and i'm gonna go down in history
36:54
as one successes public health specialists
36:56
but that's not the case remember how
36:58
did we get there and how did they stay
37:00
locked down with report on that a lot but some
37:02
new emails released as really
37:05
shocking situation check this out
37:07
so emails california teachers union
37:09
ran oppositional research on
37:11
parents who wanted schools open data
37:14
headlines that were just revoir discovery
37:17
in court documents this is the california
37:19
teachers union they hired someone to
37:21
to run research nice is pretty i'm
37:24
is is pretty standard as high in on
37:26
the parents that are like looking into
37:28
these parents they're simply stating
37:30
what they want from their schools for their children
37:33
right and it was a group of parents who had
37:36
one a court case they sued the state of california
37:38
the san diego us is particularly it's
37:41
to reopen the schools there they won so much
37:43
later you know instead of saying hey you
37:45
know good job you one of the science or whatever
37:47
the california teachers association basically
37:50
ran his opposition research said we want to know who
37:52
these people are while how their funding that's
37:54
what does the ideological leanings
37:56
of the groups pushing for these reopening
37:59
their politics why did know everything about
38:01
them so that is how they are treated
38:03
for opening the schools against that guides and
38:06
why did they want the schools up an interesting wealth
38:08
some new have i came out showing actually
38:10
more more of the issues with those closings
38:12
in this is where looks like net nations report
38:15
cards two decades of growth wiped
38:17
out by two years of a pandemic knows
38:19
his math and reading scores have
38:21
just plummeted since is the lowest
38:24
in the interface with since the seventies why
38:26
what's interesting about this is that you
38:28
know lot of the experts education experts said
38:30
causes cause obviously going remote learnings gonna
38:32
have an issue i math because that intensive
38:34
that's where it's it's it's in the class
38:37
a room intensive learning but reading
38:39
they thought would be fine because it would be
38:41
a wonder one switch over didn't happen
38:43
same thing lot of plummeting the reading
38:46
categories as well and will be one
38:48
of the biggest issues here as far as
38:50
you said this irreparable damage the hidden thing
38:52
happens there's happens lot of research house
38:54
is a great resource article by the american
38:57
institute for economic research school
38:59
closures contra foxy school
39:01
closings will shorten lives
39:04
so it's not just the lockdowns normal
39:06
everyday people the school closings particularly
39:08
in it says closings here this is says highly resource
39:11
article is a everyone should go to
39:13
this if they need more information but it says here
39:15
information w e says research organization
39:17
estimated future earnings losses
39:20
of around forty four thousand for students the united
39:22
states in know study by mckinsey and company
39:24
researchers projected future income loss
39:27
is between forty nine forty sixty one thousand
39:29
per student due to learning losses both
39:31
of these studies suggest a lifetime
39:34
loss of over two trillion for
39:36
the current cohort of american children once
39:38
they get into get workforce goes on
39:40
to say a recent article by james
39:42
broke off from the got george mason university
39:44
and kept withdrew the from vanderbilt
39:47
user university found that each
39:49
loss of one trillion income will lead
39:51
to about nine thousand two hundred deaths
39:53
therefore the two trillion in
39:55
last future income for american
39:57
children's american be associated with over eating
40:00
the thousand early deaths in the
40:02
future and freely if it
40:04
finishes by saying this articles in leading
40:06
medical journal such as health affairs in jama
40:08
show little to no impact of the school shutdowns
40:10
i communities and query scratch
40:12
that's an inconvenient truth to a society
40:15
that place so much faith in shutdown proponents
40:17
at the picnic pandemics beginning and
40:20
doubt it might
40:22
be news to some people they have you been watching the
40:24
high wire and the research of the guess
40:26
that we've had on we've back
40:28
in november of twenty twenty all
40:31
the way back they were going to years
40:33
ago we had dare and beady eyed
40:35
and amazing researcher i'm at researcher time
40:37
with revolver news and he had sanctioned
40:40
of had research through revolver news
40:42
and this is what he had to say about that two years
40:44
ago listen to this or early
40:47
on when cove it came there's a lot
40:49
of talk about oh we need to
40:51
lock everything down because
40:53
the economy is not import
40:56
more important than one human life is
40:58
it will save one human life we need to shut
41:00
down the entire economy and
41:03
what this study does i think the most
41:06
general terms is general totally refutes
41:09
that frame of thinking that
41:11
in fact you cannot separate
41:14
lives
41:15
from livelihood but the most
41:17
important take home point here is
41:20
that it's not this trade off between
41:22
economy and lives there
41:25
very demonstrably connections
41:27
between economic
41:30
conditions and public health
41:32
conditions economists know
41:34
all too well that this connection
41:36
exists and they uniquely
41:39
ignored this connections in
41:41
order to support
41:43
this policy blunder
41:46
of lockdowns
41:48
wow mean i remember
41:51
we we've said these things so many times
41:53
throughout this band demo had so many toby
41:55
rodgers on multiple times talking
41:57
about the math behind is nothing
41:59
for the people this is weird right to equate
42:02
human lives to mass but
42:04
this is technically with you know
42:06
how these decisions are supposed to be made
42:08
you were supposed to look at all of the different
42:11
ramifications and potential outcomes
42:13
of what you're doing and none
42:15
of these people that look at some life
42:17
years loss or value of life ever
42:19
were allowed into the room to be a part
42:22
of the team discussing lockdowns
42:24
here in america which is crazy in the same thing in
42:26
england and all around the world these people were
42:28
locked out of the conversation and
42:30
now we're all gonna field is repercussions for
42:32
years to com
42:34
yeah it's fascinating how no one was
42:36
a during a cost benefit analysis from america
42:38
to the uk to any other country really
42:41
that's a fascinating piece on this but as
42:43
we move forward parents have
42:45
fought at every step of the way to
42:47
get their kids back in school the out these restrictions
42:49
not them and they've once a big fights lot
42:51
of my courts a were peeling back these
42:54
layers but there's still some layers on their so the
42:56
big thing obviously his school openings
42:58
know we're closures the kids are back in school but
43:00
they still have these restrictions on restrictions murmurs the
43:02
masks have been an issue with a
43:04
lot of learning disabilities of
43:06
the end and developmental disabilities
43:09
they're still disabilities look at these headlines i was shocked
43:11
to see this newark public school space mass
43:14
rules will stay in place but some parents are frustrated
43:16
some parents than here l a
43:19
heatwave playground asphalt
43:21
sizzles to one hundred and forty five degrees
43:23
in extreme heat waves parents demand school
43:25
shades and it there's a picture in this article
43:28
he can't really see it too well but it's it
43:30
it has of the kids out playing in the playground
43:32
they all have masks on and this is
43:34
happening across our of parts
43:36
of l a as as identified by this tweet
43:38
year as is l a row uprising and
43:40
twitter page today mar vista west
43:43
l a rec center cooling centers open across the
43:45
city for excessive heat kids forced to mass
43:47
inside playing sports at mayor
43:49
of alway in the los angeles city council should
43:51
be ashamed and then we have per
43:53
as secretary miguel card donate his secretary
43:56
of education united states someone
43:58
tweeted at him as well
43:59
the give him an earful he says here secretary
44:02
cardona you're sitting in a room with a bunch
44:04
of mask was older adults as is
44:06
your right now we please use your position
44:08
to speak up against the federal how their mass
44:10
mandates in the head start programs why
44:13
should four year old be condemned to another
44:15
year of mask and there he is sitting with that
44:17
joe by joe biden wife bunch of
44:19
other a higher government figures and
44:21
employment no matter where the only ones
44:23
that are in any sort of risk situation not
44:25
four year olds who have zero risk but
44:28
people not remedy wanna be a hypochondriac
44:30
that would be the place do it's you're not doing it
44:32
there than why our kids and allow
44:34
me to make this this point too because
44:36
i know we have a lot of viewers you know
44:38
living in california place with this is going on
44:41
i prayed nobody watching this show
44:43
is sending your children to schools where they're
44:45
having to wear masks i think that is unconscionable
44:49
they will never be the same again you are destroying
44:51
their spirits they're going to have issues
44:54
fearing the air they breathe for the rest their lives
44:56
and is you really feel like there's
44:58
no way out analysis of the i never thought i'd
45:00
say i think you should wear masks all day
45:02
the same time your kids are so you're thinking
45:04
about the fact of what your kid is going through because
45:07
no adult that i know is wearing a
45:09
mask or eight hours they were going to their
45:11
offices take you off hoppy your car take
45:13
it off your says is it taking it off
45:16
it's not fair it's not right
45:18
it's sick and demented and please
45:20
please don't let that happen your children's is
45:22
time to home school as time to get out and
45:24
susie lights decide to move out of california
45:27
if you have to but please don't
45:29
destroy your the soul
45:32
of your child simply because
45:34
you gotta get to work and has nothing to do about
45:36
it that's is not is used to be more interested
45:38
wounds use you when they have all sorts of other
45:40
health and psychological issues because
45:43
of what's been done here
45:45
it is not twenty twenty anymore we know a lot
45:47
more about this thing and it you know people
45:49
take one thing away from the segments to raise awareness
45:51
about this this is the head start
45:53
program in l a spare still masking
45:56
and this they're still following their in term guidelines
45:59
and this was with that too the about this is their mask
46:01
requirements to mitigate the spread of cover
46:03
ninety and head start programs it says here universe
46:05
i'm asking for all individuals two years
46:08
of age and older that means volunteers that
46:10
means teachers obviously kids this
46:12
is still going on so we're not
46:14
quite out of the woods yet but
46:16
worse were making a lot of progress especially in
46:18
the courts but we we still have to peel these
46:20
last mandates off this thing is over but
46:22
that is good for
46:24
the man absolutely so import
46:26
is so important and it's just is
46:28
clear now to me since you know the
46:30
cdc not even recommending the mask anymore
46:33
that this is social engineering they
46:36
want compliance human beings that will just
46:38
allow themselves to be tracked and ship or
46:40
whatever they need to do in the future if
46:42
you don't want their future it starts
46:44
with our children we've gotta make a difference
46:46
now jeffrey great reporting as always
46:49
thank you so much for all that information
46:52
will see you naked alright that'd
46:54
be like what you every jackson had to say they're definitely check
46:56
out the jackson report the high wire dot com
46:59
where he writes articles writes gets deeper into
47:01
the conversations that we are
47:03
having here having dunno i'm
47:05
sorry if sorry if you know if i'm hard on
47:07
you in the audience but i can't take it
47:09
anymore can't take it i wanted to see
47:11
you see these adults walking to see where
47:13
they're not actually wearing the mask but the kid is so
47:16
now the kid clearly has song
47:18
psychological problem developed by this
47:20
and that the parents are just rolling along with it like okay
47:22
you know i dunno sam he doesn't want to tickets massive
47:25
ups were just leaving it on him yeah gray
47:27
well gone maybe parenting
47:29
job are we got a few days
47:32
you know we've got to be engaged
47:34
in this world and that's what my concern is
47:36
a feel like you know we talked about so
47:38
much science and news that thank you for hang
47:40
in there we get into all the details
47:42
but i worry that we just see it going
47:45
by as though it's like on a television
47:47
and we're not fully engaged realizing
47:49
wait a minute this is the world i
47:51
live in yes this is
47:53
the one you live in right now we got
47:55
we are making a difference this show has
47:57
made a difference we are penetrating
48:00
but we're under massive pressure of censorship
48:02
and all sorts of other issues so i
48:04
can tell you there's no word on my team
48:06
step forgets any day what we're in the middle
48:09
of a what we're fighting force because we're having
48:11
a fight to get this information to you
48:13
every single day we work on it so
48:15
you know are not a bring this up because very
48:18
interesting headlines showing that they
48:20
were going to start seeing some headway in
48:22
this space here's this is the epoch times
48:24
judge ordered bouncy and other top
48:26
officials to produce records for big
48:29
sack government censorship lawsuits
48:32
i set it you know where we've been talking
48:34
about the zuckerberg admitting that the
48:36
f b i visited him to talk about things
48:38
that you know could be said politically but
48:40
is also these issues on the code reds
48:42
are and that all the doctors that spoke out
48:44
of these laws are passed in the doctor zeus complaining
48:47
about all of this by the way we soon
48:49
we brought a lawsuit for getting six
48:51
off of used to getting sets off a base books
48:54
are issue was we could get deep
48:56
enough in the taste of proves that we had
48:58
been targeted specifically though
49:00
i will tell you we have some very interesting
49:02
of boy us request that of com in
49:04
that we're looking at right now and or investigators
49:06
going deeper but when we see headlines
49:09
like that here at the high wire
49:11
i will tell you we might ride on the back of this
49:13
is that information comes out and we start
49:15
see i can a high wire being spoken
49:18
about specifically i
49:20
have news for you were going to bring that case to we
49:22
got to stop the censorship it's it
49:24
off a refund place right now in
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all of this mean this mean this we are causally
49:29
doing foi request routes cause i use your legal
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teams to get information i believe
49:34
you know my losses and other loss is the
49:36
one towards this all sort of sets a precedent
49:38
and stage so that a lawsuit fujitsu
49:41
look how many legal wins we have right now
49:43
is the i'd say and legal wins you
49:45
know when you're sitting there at home and maybe
49:47
you're having a days where you didn't fully
49:49
you allowed yourself and says it's your the day was
49:51
i'm not against press be have a day
49:53
the be forget about this crazy world but
49:56
wondered second back in i hope
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you get the washer so insane oh
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50:27
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51:39
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all of you that have made this possible look
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what we've achieved pat yourself
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on the back into an amazing moment i'm
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just save for the rest of you out there you should
51:52
feel what it feels like when we have these
51:54
winds when we you know when we when
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these lawsuits are we bring these stories
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that you know breakfast no one else is
52:00
getting you get the say
52:02
i had something to do that i think that's import
52:05
well you know speaking of you
52:07
know this rak whole new world and
52:09
whether we're living in and were awake to it or what's
52:11
going on i did the big question
52:13
is are we really threw him right
52:15
have we made it road this
52:18
pandemic is it over what's gonna
52:20
happen this winter us to grow wondering what's
52:22
going on there monkey pox use of
52:24
disappears is a polio story floating
52:26
out there is like ms wise like you know
52:28
this is the these globalist just keep
52:30
rolling lines of the wanted to see where they can host
52:33
or none of us where is your food
52:35
and suddenly were locked back into mass
52:38
formation and following each
52:40
other and some sort of arbitrary line
52:42
we're being told to follow and following through
52:44
with crazy rituals like wearing masks that
52:46
we know don't do anything and bask in our
52:48
children are sending them off the school
52:50
of course want to talk about mass in the formation
52:53
really talking about one person and
52:55
as much he has desmond the psychologists
52:58
out of belgium well he made
53:00
his way into america miraculously
53:02
he's been making tour around the news stations
53:05
ah were cited is here this is what is
53:07
look like on part of that trip we
53:09
are honored to have join us themselves
53:11
in academic called mathias is matt
53:14
three hundred have a special guess as to
53:16
dr miller tie assessment the books
53:18
a best seller the psychology of a child
53:20
terrorism professor does when you have
53:23
erupted , the the
53:25
, for your work
53:27
on what is called mass formation
53:30
so i would have years ago i think this would have been
53:32
considered a kind of esoteric academic
53:34
theory you know relevant to
53:36
your specific study but not really relevant
53:38
society that we live in an all of sudden so
53:41
perfectly describes with the rest
53:43
of us
53:44
have been watching during the grown a crisis
53:46
of people started to believe both
53:49
into analysis that in many respects was
53:51
blatantly romance utterly absurd smash
53:53
commission has existed as long as mankind exists
53:56
the mother masses of live
53:58
in a rather actually say
53:59
what makes them extremely susceptible
54:02
i'm extremely vulnerable for all
54:05
kinds of from ,
54:07
ago received many messages of people who
54:10
always as ones they they heard my
54:12
theory and they started to started
54:15
why they bother to than that of the for a certain
54:17
time to important to ride my book if
54:19
you understand the knickers we must make you
54:21
will understand what you have to do no
54:24
matter what happens continue
54:27
to speak out even if because of the
54:29
internet and you will have to speak out in a different
54:31
race pretty to continue different
54:33
speak as speak matter what happens
54:38
alright well his book is called the psychology
54:41
of to tell attorneys and by mathias
54:44
desmond is my honor and pleasure
54:46
to be joined here in studio by
54:48
mathias thank you so much
54:50
for being here how thank you for obviously
54:53
, had a very in depth a discussion
54:55
of a few months ago rb book was
54:57
on his way out to discuss this
55:00
idea of mass formation which
55:02
sort of swept swept world
55:04
we talked about it then and i don't really want to sort
55:07
to get caught up in rehashing
55:09
all in that ah the first one
55:11
thank you for for being here and
55:14
down and making the trip and
55:16
sort of continuing to speak out
55:19
with your thoughts south ensure that it's
55:21
a ensure to be really grateful
55:23
that you invite of michigan doesn't
55:26
start right here you know coming into america
55:29
ah i'm is there a difference when
55:31
you think of this nation compared to belgium
55:33
where you been living throughout this panda
55:36
you mean in terms of
55:38
life life years it's into the of
55:40
on the psychology of humanitarian
55:43
ecology different yes
55:48
to be honest i
55:50
i think that don't people are more confirm
55:53
as to than american people
55:54
the whole the the
55:57
percentage of people who took the job was extremely
55:59
high
55:59
maybe that has
56:02
to do with a factor
56:03
no are extremely high levels of
56:06
or psychological problems in belgium
56:09
i think the belgium is a country with the highest percentage
56:12
of impressed me really oh
56:14
yes and
56:16
that could have to do with the fact that or that
56:18
could the be one the
56:21
fact that plays a role
56:24
the fact that may be more people fall prey to
56:26
what i go mathematician because yes
56:29
a the more people feel socially the
56:33
more people feel psychologically
56:37
the gospel are problematic position the
56:40
, usually are vulnerable to them
56:42
as much you could play at all but actually i
56:44
don't know right and i don't i and i'm
56:46
not sure if this book book
56:49
, what i found interesting
56:51
about it is is not just about not of
56:54
this cove in prices we'd been
56:56
to i found myself reflecting on
56:58
my own personal interactions with
57:01
my personal my children
57:03
are a really is an exploration
57:05
in i think what moves us what
57:08
drives what moves it's absolutely
57:10
fantastic engaging therefore
57:13
pillars essentially arm
57:15
that have to have happened to society
57:17
to make us would vulnerable
57:19
to mass formation can you just sort of mass
57:22
us through that very quickly as
57:25
yeah that when it may be first in a nutshell what
57:27
nasa mission is as it's a specific kind
57:29
of group are making which has a specific effect
57:31
of the level of individual mental functioning and
57:34
for instance at makes people
57:36
ironically and capable of taking a critical
57:38
distance matter
57:40
how of certain
57:46
com
57:50
a radical the willing to sacrifice everything
57:53
that was important to them before
57:55
the most dot is it a little bit of
57:57
most me is that it makes people
57:59
i agree a lot of tournaments voices
58:02
do the extent in the of the
58:05
much gone starting to go through something
58:07
that wasn't the people that do not go along with a that's
58:09
a nutshell
58:10
the terminology of
58:13
the machinations he talk by the book
58:16
all the times throughout history this has happened stalin's
58:18
hitler you know
58:23
there are times
58:27
, i also have a very very
58:29
scales will go have a small school a few
58:31
women with the new to this is elaine in
58:34
indeed it is massive mission
58:36
is almost maxed for the modern masters
58:38
one of the same as that is there are important
58:41
differences between the did this between the
58:43
amazing this typical example
58:45
of group permission to emerges when
58:48
the population isn't a very specific states
58:50
and the the first and most crucial condition
58:52
is that it has to be many people who feel this
58:54
gonna get fucked from the natural social
58:56
and via
58:57
and once me from has connected they will
58:59
typically starters travel
59:01
with a lack of meaning making a life and
59:04
, they are disconnected and meaning
59:07
making
59:13
owning their frustration integration
59:16
look nice anxiety frustration aggression
59:19
that
59:20
the not connected to a mental representation or
59:23
and simpler
59:27
the promotion anxious frustrated and aggressive
59:29
without knowing what this
59:33
is plenty of are some interesting
59:36
because people have out of control
59:38
they have the feeling of they cannot control their anxiety
59:41
and have the feeling
59:42
that they cannot
59:44
they did anxiety out to an option to their
59:46
frustration that goes out to an object because
59:48
they don't know what they feel so
59:50
, meaning that all this frustration
59:53
of the cushion piles up in their psychological
59:55
system and consulting with a very
59:58
versus pension
59:59
and investing
1:00:01
something typically typical might have
1:00:04
that
1:00:08
enter
1:00:10
the same time reason thing
1:00:12
providing a strategy to do with an object
1:00:14
of anxiety for instance
1:00:16
the logged on sort of corona voters
1:00:18
the transporter which is the crusades for
1:00:20
the seller scenes who have a fight in a the
1:00:23
great of christ on the does
1:00:25
conditions such a narrative is distributing
1:00:28
something very specific might have all
1:00:30
this free floating anxiety
1:00:35
the people might be willing revenue
1:00:38
documenting object of absolutely no
1:00:40
matter how absurd the strategy is simply
1:00:43
because in this way people
1:00:45
experience
1:00:47
them for mother
1:00:49
control over didn't either
1:00:51
they they now know what you're anxious
1:00:53
for and also very important the
1:00:55
also know have an option which
1:00:58
they can direct their frustration and aggression
1:01:01
and there's a first up the do that leads
1:01:03
to a specific psychological
1:01:05
advantage
1:01:07
the birthplace of the effect of level and
1:01:09
then a second place it also seems
1:01:11
to tackle
1:01:12
the root cause of the problems namely
1:01:15
this first condition which is
1:01:17
the social isolation the loneliness
1:01:19
still because all these people participate
1:01:22
in a strategy to do but the object of anxiety
1:01:24
together right they have
1:01:26
the feeding the their fights heroic collective battle
1:01:28
with the object of inside
1:01:29
and if you're gonna get
1:01:31
milan
1:01:33
you're going into detail the big problem
1:01:36
is that the connection is never
1:01:38
a connection between individuals always
1:01:41
, masses are immersed as
1:01:43
a group that is formed because every
1:01:45
individual separately
1:01:47
comment
1:01:48
the collective to collect my you
1:01:50
so basically i'm lonely
1:01:53
i start having start sense of meaninglessness
1:01:55
of meaninglessness life i'm doing the job i hate life
1:01:58
you know my family's doesn't care
1:01:59
about me i'm working too hard
1:02:02
i'm now have anxiety have a
1:02:04
feeling that of attention all the time
1:02:07
but i don't know what actually i'm angry oh
1:02:09
you know and was treating anger i don't know where to focus
1:02:11
energy on was coming from the someone
1:02:13
comes along as as we all have a single a problem
1:02:15
we need to do with here's the solution you ought
1:02:17
the lockdown get back to the go through these rituals
1:02:20
as and anyone that doesn't go along with
1:02:22
that is is the problem and focus on
1:02:24
them it's and so suddenly imo in
1:02:26
a group we all have a common missions and those
1:02:28
not on this mission will attack that smaller
1:02:30
group and now i have a purpose in life essentially all
1:02:33
problem solve all problems all seemingly right
1:02:35
seemingly else except that as we discussed
1:02:37
the last time i'm not really
1:02:39
getting social connectedness are not in
1:02:41
in a giant parties in fact this time were
1:02:43
isolated but i'm online
1:02:45
and i've been told that i'm a part
1:02:48
of a greater whole with as creating an important
1:02:50
functions going to save the world and as mess amazing
1:02:53
the functional channeling all
1:02:55
this recent aggression or something
1:02:57
the
1:02:59
it will constantly need new
1:03:02
objects of anxiety new obstacles
1:03:04
have to be destroyed and shut up
1:03:06
and get to that because i think what's interesting
1:03:09
is his books written you know as you said
1:03:11
i think you start the idea of in two thousand and seventeen
1:03:14
right and ultimately finish
1:03:16
it in the middle of the pandemic and really sets
1:03:18
and in some ways i guess you
1:03:20
know it must have been
1:03:22
i don't know ironic or prophetic
1:03:25
that you had thought i should write about this mask
1:03:27
for mason idea and in found yourself
1:03:29
in the middle of probably the largest
1:03:31
mass formation event in the history of mental
1:03:33
first worldwide mes amis in
1:03:36
history would you say you are you an expert
1:03:38
on mass formation prior
1:03:40
to the pandemic i'm writing this book find lectured
1:03:42
about it okay my my focus of
1:03:45
the focus of my academic or a lot of art has
1:03:47
always been individual psychology but
1:03:51
well
1:03:54
during my phd i focused
1:03:57
home methodological problems and scientific
1:03:59
research
1:04:00
four and two thousand and five
1:04:02
when i made my phd and became clear that have
1:04:04
to face a five percent of academic
1:04:07
research papers from right
1:04:09
completely wrong since i started to study
1:04:11
doesn't sort of the study
1:04:13
the mathematical basis of the problems
1:04:15
and i explain them in an extra three fungible
1:04:17
unclear when a little book i showed why
1:04:20
most research research methods they
1:04:22
possibly can lead to voted results
1:04:24
in such a simple invincible way
1:04:27
but i thought
1:04:28
everyone that open his eyes
1:04:30
but he didn't they became angry that so you're
1:04:32
talking about this phenomenon we've discussed on her
1:04:34
show a lot which did almost the
1:04:37
editor of almost every major medical
1:04:39
journal i'm in the world
1:04:41
has come out in one way or another saying
1:04:44
we can't repeat the scientific
1:04:46
experiments that were said to from the conclusions
1:04:48
you know some say fifty percent of those
1:04:51
that we attempted to repeat using different sizes
1:04:53
of the same methodology didn't come up with the same results
1:04:55
are as high as eighty five percent
1:04:57
of see note especially when you get the pharmaceutical
1:05:00
product and doing their own studies against
1:05:02
it becomes very fallible in
1:05:04
in it's ability be repeated and so
1:05:07
we start recognizing that you can't trust in
1:05:09
these a major statements by major
1:05:11
editors of these journals say have you
1:05:13
actually can't trust the peer reviewed
1:05:15
science that we've been publishing because
1:05:17
it is too easy for it
1:05:19
to somehow be manipulated haven't they
1:05:22
don't state what the cause necessarily
1:05:24
is with this is sort of become a focus of yours
1:05:26
yes yes me because i noticed that no
1:05:29
matter how
1:05:30
clearly you explain
1:05:32
what the problems with the research methods or the
1:05:35
of for form for most researchers
1:05:37
it just doesn't make a difference they conceal new
1:05:39
who believe in and in and
1:05:41
and what they believe than before and that was
1:05:44
the moment when i started to become interested in must psychology
1:05:46
because had the feeling that this
1:05:48
phenomenon of this radical
1:05:50
blindness yeah for for for the absurdity
1:05:53
of of what the someone believes in guns
1:05:57
not really be explained on the basis of in the
1:05:59
psychological mechanisms as robin on the basis
1:06:02
of psychology and massacre
1:06:04
that they're gonna explain it
1:06:06
i had a very specific i'll
1:06:09
, revelation to this myself when we share it with
1:06:11
you early on i'm i've
1:06:13
made this documentary vast which was about
1:06:15
the mmr vaccine in this study
1:06:18
at the cdc looking at does it cause autism
1:06:20
that was early two thousand and two thousand for the
1:06:22
study was done because doctor andrew wakefield
1:06:25
in england had made this accusation
1:06:27
that the mmr appeared to be somehow causally
1:06:29
related to the rise in
1:06:31
autism epidemic as point
1:06:34
point president early two thousand
1:06:36
and seventeen and arm i
1:06:38
got a call from robert kennedy jr
1:06:41
that he'd been invited to a meeting at the national
1:06:43
institute of health so we
1:06:45
got together and laid out what we
1:06:47
thought were all the problems with the vaccine program
1:06:50
that and we're gonna have the opportunity
1:06:52
to speak to francis collins her the nih
1:06:55
tony found sheath i can remember all
1:06:57
the news with heads of autism development all
1:06:59
of the did that sort of the science body
1:07:01
about ten people arm to express
1:07:03
our concerns in a representative from donald trump's
1:07:07
cabinet was there to oversee answer
1:07:09
moderate this discussion and
1:07:12
okay so we laid out to major
1:07:14
tenants number one being ah
1:07:17
the biggest issue was we can't find
1:07:19
a single double
1:07:21
blind placebo studies
1:07:23
performed on any of the childhood vaccines
1:07:26
that are in our childhood vaccines program
1:07:28
we can find a single one of those studies to
1:07:31
establish safety prior to lessons
1:07:33
heard of the vaccine simple question
1:07:35
mark we not doing proper
1:07:38
randomized controlled studies using a placebo
1:07:40
for vaccinations or are you
1:07:42
just hiding that information from the public as
1:07:45
it started out with it for some guy the under the table
1:07:47
says of course we're doing double
1:07:49
blind placebo studies you know that's
1:07:51
how science has done is just since
1:07:53
earlier face trials than we publish for the
1:07:55
public and so are are
1:07:57
a few jr said great that's why we're here this
1:08:00
the national institute of health all the archives
1:08:02
for that information here i'd love to go back
1:08:04
to the people that are question this is sheldon the evidence
1:08:06
that you know says it exists will wait as
1:08:08
long as it takes and then there's a stylus
1:08:10
i mean one of the most likely is incredible
1:08:13
from pauses i've ever seen and then tony
1:08:15
bout he said we don't do double blind
1:08:17
placebo studies because would be unethical into
1:08:20
a whole conversation shifted and then phrases councils
1:08:22
that's right jumps on his bandwagon so
1:08:24
that's right and then so so
1:08:26
they ended up admitting that they don't do any
1:08:28
double blind placebo studies because
1:08:31
as they see it in into your points
1:08:33
they have such a strong group bleed that
1:08:35
vaccines are great and that even
1:08:37
a brand new vaccine being entered into
1:08:39
the population and to have
1:08:41
a placebo group that isn't getting this
1:08:43
great life says it saving measure that's never
1:08:45
been tested to deny them access
1:08:48
to their product in their minds would
1:08:50
be ethically reprehensible okay
1:08:52
nsc we took it one step further we said
1:08:55
ok armed well then how
1:08:57
about a retrospective state i get
1:08:59
it prospectively meanings before
1:09:01
the product of least you don't you don't want
1:09:04
anyone to be denied the products but after
1:09:06
it's been released there's certainly plenty of anti
1:09:08
boxes or whatever you wanna call it in your databases
1:09:11
snacks and be studied we can look at these
1:09:13
studies into just simply compare
1:09:15
the vaccine to the and vaccinated to has higher
1:09:17
rates of kids who has higher rates of autism as
1:09:19
high rates of diabetes in all these issues
1:09:22
that are are plaguing our country if
1:09:24
you want to shut me up and robert downey
1:09:26
jr any one that's on this topic simply
1:09:28
do the most obvious that he known to man compare
1:09:30
the vaccine to the boxes and show us
1:09:33
looks to vaccinate live longer they're healthy
1:09:35
or less kids are all these other issues you know the
1:09:37
said to us
1:09:38
we can't figure out a way to do that
1:09:41
i was looking across the table at
1:09:43
the greatest body of scientists gathered
1:09:46
at the most important research institute
1:09:48
in the world and you to
1:09:51
figure out how to compare one group to another
1:09:53
and as we ask more questions i
1:09:55
went back to my wife in in
1:09:57
i hadn't i knew nothing about mass formation
1:09:59
but he said
1:10:01
for the most part these people
1:10:03
aren't evil never is something
1:10:06
and i described it as is almost
1:10:08
like an innate self protective
1:10:10
mechanism that keeps them
1:10:12
from opening the most obvious norris
1:10:15
to a third grader where they would see the problem
1:10:17
in science they don't even see that
1:10:19
door it's doesn't exist or something
1:10:21
in them sticks his from asking the
1:10:24
appropriate questions that would on earth
1:10:26
their belief in their thoughts system that they
1:10:28
are saving the world with his products
1:10:31
i , i would hold withdrawl
1:10:33
except one person i said the my wife and i got
1:10:35
back except this one guy sitting across
1:10:37
from me who i didn't really know at the time and
1:10:39
that he bowed css i believe this guy's evil
1:10:42
i'd dig you know damn well what's going on you are
1:10:44
but that was my experience of and
1:10:46
it
1:10:48
known as a kind of group ideological
1:10:51
blindness a thing yet blindness up
1:10:53
yet the group
1:10:54
the reason the good of of an ideology
1:10:56
that shares and ideology and that the
1:10:59
became i'm pretty blind because of that ideology
1:11:02
know this is what's fascinating i think about your
1:11:04
book because he talk about you
1:11:07
, where we serve have the separation
1:11:09
we start out with our lack of
1:11:12
you know science or a mine
1:11:14
most humidity seems a started a religious
1:11:17
space a belief in something big themselves
1:11:19
difference causes three different gods
1:11:21
of these things with is a spiritual relationship
1:11:23
and that god is usually vengeful keeps
1:11:26
us in control if we step out of line
1:11:28
then we will be smite it or whatever
1:11:30
you know it is i'm i'm using my own words not
1:11:33
yours but essentially there's this the
1:11:35
a logical ah construct
1:11:38
that controls humanity and then
1:11:40
along comes what you describe leaders the mechanistic
1:11:42
society or the science rights know
1:11:44
there's a logic now we can be freed
1:11:47
of his mythological fear that scott
1:11:49
us all bound up but
1:11:51
now we can be logical arm
1:11:54
tell me about that like how did that stored
1:11:57
and did it free us
1:12:00
well and the
1:12:04
worse
1:12:06
scientific discourse was a kind of a discourse through
1:12:08
which the a minority went against the
1:12:10
dominant discursive
1:12:12
the dominant been as or smears within the
1:12:14
magician likes my mother courage
1:12:16
and i think yep and
1:12:19
the first place that you result
1:12:23
i think i am i mean science
1:12:25
represented the kind of open mindedness
1:12:27
the kind of the
1:12:30
positioning which people
1:12:33
started to listen to do to to nature
1:12:35
to the phenomena up to reality around
1:12:37
them in a new way without being blinded
1:12:40
by dot muslims and then the and all kinds
1:12:42
of prejudice with after a while because
1:12:45
of its successes signs became a dominant
1:12:47
this course itself and that's where the moment
1:12:49
when they got river
1:12:51
uk always the case has a so once
1:12:53
when it was the minority it was healthy
1:12:55
of once it becomes the majority discourse
1:12:58
of course
1:12:59
wonder why why is that no one's a discourse
1:13:02
starts to get a grip on the
1:13:04
majority of the people it does this course
1:13:06
that
1:13:10
to make a profit of are thought to be successful
1:13:12
at the level of careers that's the logical or to
1:13:14
these as as soon as the certain discourses
1:13:17
shared by or is believes in by
1:13:19
the majority of the people everyone
1:13:21
who wants to manipulate or who wants to
1:13:24
have a grip on the majority of the people
1:13:26
will exactly use that discourse
1:13:28
think about all the commercial that say
1:13:31
a scientific research
1:13:33
showed that
1:13:34
this brother gave us and of doctor say
1:13:36
you should use this is the
1:13:38
consensus of your says
1:13:41
blah blah the or or earth and the academical
1:13:43
to just the more academic paper to
1:13:45
publish them to hide
1:13:47
the chance that you will have a be successful
1:13:50
the level of of your academic career that are all
1:13:52
examples that show does
1:13:55
the the more successful
1:13:58
discourse isn't a society the it a chance
1:14:00
that it gets pervert than that it's and that it loses
1:14:03
it's qualities of truth speech and
1:14:05
that is what happens with science science
1:14:07
changed from through speech and the beginning
1:14:10
the change into a
1:14:12
certain
1:14:13
ideology it's good to go perverted
1:14:15
lost it's qualities of through speech and
1:14:17
in the as it was a purely ideological
1:14:20
mother
1:14:21
the points
1:14:23
what know is no longer it today
1:14:26
is no longer
1:14:27
kind of open minded there's
1:14:29
no science starts from dogmatic
1:14:31
beliefs he didn't die your universe
1:14:33
or scientific ideology starts from the
1:14:36
my the goodies the entire universe is
1:14:38
immaterial phenomenon is a set of
1:14:40
elementary particles and all these particles
1:14:42
interact with each other according to the laws of mechanics
1:14:45
and his entire universe machine can
1:14:47
be perfectly rational he understood and
1:14:49
that's why are we need experts
1:14:51
to the society the people who have
1:14:54
this
1:14:55
the rational understanding of the machinery
1:14:58
of the universe and of society to lead
1:15:00
us we do not think leaders ethically elected sport
1:15:03
though you become our gods right yeah you now
1:15:05
or the all knowing and i no longer
1:15:07
challenger and but just as they didn't sounds the religion
1:15:09
of my priest held it now you hold
1:15:11
the truth of have world in the cosmos i
1:15:14
bow down to that and it really is this
1:15:16
would just shifted to from one controlling god
1:15:18
of to another the other the
1:15:20
files declared the throne of got empty both very
1:15:22
soon mans think that has thrown himself
1:15:25
as self bridges
1:15:28
exist lemons take it to this
1:15:30
moment then where is it
1:15:33
is it at the moment that it becomes
1:15:35
the majority thinking process is
1:15:37
it that it it's weird
1:15:39
to see it is it but let's say science news
1:15:42
in this this this freethinking
1:15:44
ability to ask questions to delineate
1:15:46
by asking appropriate questions to triangulate
1:15:48
the actual truth that now states
1:15:50
has free because we're in control of it seems perfectly
1:15:53
healthy is it at the moment
1:15:55
that because the majority because he says now controls
1:15:57
people's is it the realization of the power
1:15:59
that it now holds that ends
1:16:02
up be the sort of i'm
1:16:04
incriminating factor or is
1:16:06
it the love of having that
1:16:09
majority that it fears losing that and
1:16:11
and lose it you know you know to mean is
1:16:13
it is recognizing oh my god the masses
1:16:15
are now with us we have power
1:16:18
here to a certain extent definitely
1:16:20
the a certain extent that it it can lead to power
1:16:23
and at the same time it
1:16:25
it go it can it can give you power it
1:16:27
can give you money the other two fuckers are always
1:16:29
free robot in the end i think it's for something
1:16:32
else really think that the that the
1:16:34
real factor at play is ,
1:16:37
a
1:16:38
the fact that people
1:16:42
fear uncertainty
1:16:44
everyone or the human being the
1:16:47
rebels
1:16:48
with a profound uncertainty in life
1:16:51
we always thing that human beings didn't
1:16:53
differ from animals because they know
1:16:55
more because they have more knowledge but
1:16:57
actually rather the opposite is true a
1:16:59
human being distinguishes itself
1:17:02
from another more because it's constantly
1:17:05
confronted with a lack of knowledge
1:17:08
of human being as possibly confronted with
1:17:10
questions if cannot answer
1:17:12
what is the meaning of my life know what
1:17:14
will happen after i die
1:17:16
the other love me or not what
1:17:19
do i mean for someone else the human i
1:17:21
was human existence the was
1:17:23
constantly
1:17:24
around something that his mind cannot
1:17:27
grass
1:17:27
the animals don't suffer from that and simply because
1:17:30
the the animal mental
1:17:33
function based
1:17:35
on sign systems find systems
1:17:38
in which each time refers to
1:17:40
one thing there's no doctor
1:17:43
whether the first described means hunger describing
1:17:45
is dangerous this posture means aggression
1:17:49
, so on and a human being that
1:17:51
the human mind mind
1:17:54
based on language and in language
1:17:56
the so called language signs do
1:17:59
not refer there are no
1:18:01
other signs this worth referred to
1:18:03
another as if you want to know what wonder which means
1:18:06
you need other words but these other words
1:18:09
be to be defined again by other words and you always
1:18:11
like a virgin do ,
1:18:13
can make sure what all the rest of the words mean and
1:18:16
that's why why human mind
1:18:18
is constantly on so uncertain
1:18:20
and debts for most people that is extremely
1:18:22
painful as extremely painful was
1:18:25
perpetual insecurities there's
1:18:27
an official oh yes absolutely and it's extremely
1:18:29
painful things are important
1:18:32
a with respect to the important issues of issues
1:18:34
of life for instance i don't have enough love of and other
1:18:37
level of dying at the level of i'm
1:18:40
a what a
1:18:42
i would existence means and so on and
1:18:44
that's why
1:18:45
you can
1:18:46
the cpu positions to was this fundamental uncertainty
1:18:49
or you can the can make
1:18:51
you anxious because you you you don't know
1:18:53
what to do when like you
1:18:56
, are afraid of rest of
1:18:58
the rest of life or
1:19:02
there's uncertainty
1:19:04
the be
1:19:05
you can recognize it and there's a certain
1:19:08
thirty basis and seventy
1:19:10
precondition for your existence as
1:19:12
a human being that case you
1:19:15
make the following reasoning you just
1:19:17
say it is exactly because
1:19:19
nobody answer and because
1:19:21
nobody can be certain
1:19:24
about the questions to to get the
1:19:26
answer to the great questions of like
1:19:28
that i have the right
1:19:30
and to duty
1:19:31
the answer the questions myself with only
1:19:34
one
1:19:34
you can choose and determine our
1:19:37
have to live my life is the
1:19:40
only thing i have to do is have to
1:19:43
make sure today
1:19:44
they loyal to certain ethical principles
1:19:46
before the rest i have to make the decisions in
1:19:48
life i have to live my own life
1:19:50
so that the due to two possibilities individual
1:19:53
either the individual and recognize
1:19:55
your head you create into the space
1:19:58
where knowledge is not good you
1:20:00
and he enters into that you know i think we've all
1:20:02
experienced as if you're good in any profession
1:20:04
remember like being in filmmaking the
1:20:06
more tallied the more talent
1:20:08
had the more work i got the more i did
1:20:11
the more i saw was capable and film
1:20:13
and the more as intimidated by what
1:20:15
then was possible the more you have knowledge
1:20:18
the more your knowledge is of how much you don't know
1:20:20
you're right it needs and eat that sissoko
1:20:23
so great assists and didn't include
1:20:25
exactly that the more i know the more i realize
1:20:28
that i don't know right that's when of that's
1:20:30
wisdom it is no is know if is
1:20:32
not debilitating get that we
1:20:34
we want to have been through and i've always
1:20:37
said i don't know if it's accurate but my belief
1:20:39
is been dead hyper
1:20:41
intelligent people that are incredibly intelligent
1:20:44
i've always thought have a greater propensity
1:20:46
go crazy because
1:20:48
they in
1:20:50
because it comes out the chaos and life certainly
1:20:53
i can find a mathematical function
1:20:55
and truth that irons out they
1:20:57
chaos that's all around me your average person
1:21:00
this is gives a d just accepts you know
1:21:02
livestock move on it out a meme
1:21:05
is it happens and and but
1:21:08
super and tells people are always working
1:21:10
at tried to give in order to things
1:21:12
arm and i think ultimately you will fail
1:21:15
or the hills and fail and they see through to
1:21:17
conventions the social conventions and that's
1:21:19
why they have only two options i think
1:21:21
either they reinvent either
1:21:23
convention or they
1:21:26
just fetish because i never find
1:21:28
a way to live their
1:21:30
lives to but i think that's did
1:21:33
the to the point is that
1:21:34
there's uncertainty
1:21:38
many people
1:21:41
i fully formed from businessmen many people
1:21:44
the
1:21:45
by and to have a common know this
1:21:47
an ideology that a shipment by many people
1:21:50
just to not be confronted with
1:21:52
is uncertainty i think and that's why they are
1:21:54
so right in such as so
1:21:56
that because they're so stubbornly sticking
1:21:59
to to a certain
1:21:59
narrative that is that a shared by by by
1:22:02
degree
1:22:03
the
1:22:05
while in many cases are that narrative
1:22:07
as it is is is is utterly absurd never
1:22:10
did it properly study and as does the
1:22:12
essence of authoritarian
1:22:14
that isn't when you see it
1:22:16
the people start to become completely
1:22:18
incapable of accepting
1:22:21
the there is certain uncertainty in life they
1:22:23
want one answer you want to
1:22:25
know the answer and properly couldn't leave the top political
1:22:27
leaders provided answer said totally
1:22:29
agree absolutely provide provide your answer
1:22:32
dot or you have insert our
1:22:34
beliefs is on and four years wonder same you
1:22:36
started out with a sense of meaninglessness
1:22:39
the more your knowledge left you you know
1:22:41
all alone in in in in finding that
1:22:43
there was little even more you didn't know i want
1:22:46
to just stop this right now go ahead insert
1:22:48
for me my meaning of
1:22:50
what my purposes here speak and
1:22:52
and let it be would though total group because
1:22:54
the more people involved in it the more true it must
1:22:56
be up and
1:22:59
though
1:23:01
when we you know when
1:23:03
we look at service ideology what i thought was
1:23:06
interesting is this idea that science
1:23:08
ultimately runs into this problem
1:23:10
we get in the quantum science and i think everybody
1:23:12
has a sense now that's the basic concept
1:23:15
of quantum science is the scientists
1:23:17
is it's emphasis is is changing
1:23:20
the results simply by
1:23:22
the focus by the scientist on on the
1:23:24
problem at hand that they're singular
1:23:26
involvement you give you have many beautiful
1:23:28
examples you know that
1:23:31
we're affecting our environment even clock
1:23:33
you know arms all and up start swinging
1:23:35
is some sort of unison that the
1:23:38
clocks change each other and as not even
1:23:40
a bought a thinking process
1:23:42
somehow the scientists by observing
1:23:45
that observation is potentially
1:23:47
affecting the results of ,
1:23:49
they're looking at arm arm
1:23:52
know why in
1:23:54
a moment where that is so clearly
1:23:56
the case is being swept under
1:23:59
the rug by side that the you it was the
1:24:01
hide that dirty secret
1:24:03
which anyone does look at it seems
1:24:05
to know as you said if you truly take
1:24:07
a science to the end you're left in a
1:24:09
very uncomfortable for yes i think that science
1:24:11
is popular
1:24:12
as long
1:24:13
the
1:24:15
the white people the illusion that it's will bring
1:24:17
certainty that it will earn
1:24:19
a bring a rational control but
1:24:21
real science doesn't drink certainty real
1:24:24
science doesn't tell you that
1:24:26
you rational understanding will be capable
1:24:29
of of explaining the mysteries of life
1:24:31
and that a to allow you to control
1:24:33
reality and to do to to reshape
1:24:36
as a the world and such a
1:24:38
way that there will be no suffering and even
1:24:40
or dying anymore know what the real science
1:24:43
all seminal scientists learned
1:24:45
us that our russian understanding is
1:24:47
extremely limited that's what
1:24:49
they often earth teach those
1:24:52
that rational i'm standing can grasp a
1:24:54
little bit
1:24:55
allow me to understand certain aspects of the
1:24:57
world but it's very soon if you
1:24:59
follow your nationality
1:25:02
and are loyal readers you very soon will arrive
1:25:04
at the point at the limit of nationality and
1:25:07
that's what's new signs learners and that's where
1:25:09
most people are not interested anymore
1:25:11
and signs most people don't want to know that because
1:25:14
what they want is they illusion that there
1:25:16
is someone who knows everything and that we
1:25:18
once were look everything that this
1:25:21
big uncertainty of life which
1:25:24
is such a challenge for the be human every human
1:25:26
being doesn't exist that's what
1:25:28
science as the scientific
1:25:31
ideology that the illusions
1:25:33
the scientific ideology seats like that
1:25:35
that that that one
1:25:37
day there will be no uncertain to anymore
1:25:40
that everything can be explained in mathematical terms
1:25:42
and as you're allowed to go to sleep now
1:25:44
the field is ultimately
1:25:47
you know virgin goal the idea
1:25:50
that to set ourselves free
1:25:52
from dogma of the world's science
1:25:54
will set us free that investigation
1:25:56
the science took the so deep that we realized
1:25:59
oh my god i'm
1:25:59
now affecting everything i'm looking at
1:26:02
therefore i can't get to is solid foundational
1:26:04
principle it's true because depending
1:26:06
on your personality and the observer you're
1:26:09
gonna effect what you're seeing is
1:26:11
almost as that they just said okay let's not tell
1:26:13
the world that they're looking to us now
1:26:15
to had the dog when the nets when it becomes a dog
1:26:17
months now it becomes just trust
1:26:19
us we do have the answers
1:26:21
to the world as as tony bouncy said
1:26:24
the tax on be quite frankly are
1:26:26
attacks on science
1:26:28
there's no question to be had here
1:26:31
literally making himself a mythical
1:26:33
fix dot fixture in
1:26:35
this new dogmatic and structure
1:26:38
not exactly and that's how science
1:26:41
the lapses into the
1:26:43
opposite of what it originally was
1:26:46
into a belief system they
1:26:48
shouldn't be questioned anymore right while
1:26:50
science in the beginning
1:26:52
was
1:26:53
just
1:26:54
open mindedness and the
1:26:58
got unseated everything could be question
1:27:00
that was the origin of science and
1:27:03
and now it's it became radical dot
1:27:05
the is reserved for some proof
1:27:07
of that i had a great debate years ago
1:27:10
when i was sort of firsts discussing
1:27:12
this as on a radio show with a a a guy
1:27:14
who had a science background and he was railing
1:27:16
at the idea that donald trump
1:27:18
had offered at that time ah
1:27:21
roberts jr the opportunity to
1:27:23
run a vaccine safety commission that
1:27:26
robert is you was for have had a science group
1:27:28
to started investigating the science behind
1:27:30
vaccination this guy everyone's skied laid
1:27:32
out a lot of fact he knew his science and
1:27:35
i said let me understand your
1:27:37
ears incredibly infuriated
1:27:40
right now that robert kennedy jr
1:27:42
would run in this this science
1:27:45
body arm is that because
1:27:47
you have some believe that because he
1:27:49
appears have appears bias based on
1:27:51
what he said that said
1:27:53
that will influence the science being
1:27:56
done it he said exactly
1:27:58
my point i said didn't
1:27:59
now know exactly why
1:28:02
i have an issue with the science been down at the cdc
1:28:04
in the fc a step constantly lay
1:28:06
out a monson to meet that vaccines are always
1:28:09
safe always effective and onto any proper
1:28:11
safety studies because they know they'll see what they
1:28:13
already believe you , the bias
1:28:15
there is my problem with the sides the it's
1:28:18
a deep tire foundational principle
1:28:20
of size is supposed to the scientific
1:28:22
method which is bring your biggest questions
1:28:25
your best questions we invite all
1:28:27
of that we should be challenging the
1:28:29
state was we made the theories that were standing
1:28:31
on the products that we've designed from
1:28:34
the greatest minds anyone that can bring the best
1:28:36
talents that's what science is supposed to tears
1:28:38
was totally let go of that that
1:28:40
i think so yes and these bathroom
1:28:44
one way or another viola i'm or
1:28:46
or or or or our society last
1:28:48
the capacity to really polar
1:28:51
it's real science which it always
1:28:53
starts from uncertainty and with mitch
1:28:55
always returns to insert the
1:28:57
science will never lead to certainty
1:29:00
that's what the the heisenberg included with is uncertainty
1:29:02
municipal sit is not so
1:29:05
much that we are not
1:29:07
certain
1:29:08
yeah it's that we will never
1:29:10
be able to be smiled as the pointer so
1:29:13
that's that in and as soon as
1:29:15
the you start to accept that are you start
1:29:17
to be humble enough to
1:29:19
to to to to admit that
1:29:22
are you russian understanding will never be able
1:29:24
to to to really grasp the essence of life elsewhere
1:29:27
to understand i
1:29:30
will rational know that can never
1:29:32
be the through basis of our existence
1:29:34
as a human being and that a society for instance
1:29:36
can never be based on rational understanding
1:29:39
rational understanding is only the first
1:29:41
face in a process of coming to knowledge
1:29:44
is a for the third the first steps and
1:29:47
earnest on francis
1:29:50
articulated that in a very beautiful the he said
1:29:53
that's part of reality that can be understood in a
1:29:56
rational way is very limited
1:29:58
the rest of reality because
1:29:59
me understand the by emphatically
1:30:02
resonating with it i'm sort out at emphatically
1:30:04
doesn't a suitably which is and where do we
1:30:06
live in emphatically it's something
1:30:09
, reminds me very much of the principles of
1:30:11
the some you're either addition for instance where they said
1:30:13
that a the first phase
1:30:15
of first learning process for instance when you learn
1:30:18
sword fighting already martial arts for
1:30:20
the first phase is always a professional
1:30:22
fees and the first phase of the learning
1:30:24
process of the training process you don't certain
1:30:26
techniques which tried to show you
1:30:28
in rationally how you can perform
1:30:31
your art and at the same for a craft or force
1:30:33
for signs of know mother was the first
1:30:35
page as always a technical or rational
1:30:37
stage stage and running through says that he can
1:30:40
understand them at arsenal weights but
1:30:43
are you his these techniques
1:30:46
and these this rational approach
1:30:48
to to the art of to already craft for
1:30:50
a long time you will slowly
1:30:52
start to
1:30:53
develop a certain feel for what you do
1:30:56
you will
1:30:57
the
1:30:58
the earth a different know which
1:31:00
will start to develop some something that you cannot
1:31:02
express any more international terms with something
1:31:04
that based on a certain
1:31:07
feeling with what you're doing that it
1:31:09
does feeding that is this more emphatic
1:31:11
know which is like a more direct contact
1:31:14
with the object that you're trying to know resonating
1:31:16
contact erm that
1:31:19
is the real knowledge and if you the
1:31:21
experience that very much in my own life
1:31:23
it took me until about thirty five years old
1:31:26
before i suddenly started to realize
1:31:28
that what we call it reality and let
1:31:30
me call the facts not rational
1:31:32
it took me that i was twenty five years old when i
1:31:35
a dive deep into the mathematical bases
1:31:37
are from of the systems
1:31:39
theory and
1:31:42
the beauty which shows and permission
1:31:45
but a book to go with
1:31:48
that
1:31:49
oh company that i'm ecosystems and in nature
1:31:51
which are most phenomenon nature actually
1:31:54
behave irrationally they
1:31:56
behave irrationally and i suddenly started
1:31:58
to understand that what because that scenario
1:32:01
or not rational not met russian understanding
1:32:03
would never really
1:32:05
the able to
1:32:07
the rosberg capture the essence
1:32:09
of live around and it is at that moment
1:32:12
and that moment i think the moon that
1:32:14
you can be humble enough to understand
1:32:16
that you're human mind will always
1:32:19
be out of control and that it's will
1:32:21
always fall short to
1:32:23
grasp of the essence of life around
1:32:25
to it is at that moment i think that
1:32:28
you can
1:32:28
open up and an attorney and your mind
1:32:31
can open up that you might a little
1:32:33
mean that those logical building blocks
1:32:36
which you connected
1:32:38
to each other and which isolates
1:32:40
you from the world that he can slide a
1:32:42
little be away from each other and that the
1:32:44
eternal vibrance and music of life
1:32:47
the nature of other human beings
1:32:49
are and can go to the homes
1:32:52
the strings have you been
1:32:54
the and
1:32:55
me and let you make your resonate
1:32:58
with
1:32:59
life around to i
1:33:01
think that at that moment that's
1:33:03
the moment when , start to get in
1:33:05
touch with restarted develop a few
1:33:07
for the mystery of live rounds and that
1:33:10
the moved elsewhere starter
1:33:13
become aware
1:33:16
eternal principles of life and into
1:33:19
these principles these ethical principles
1:33:21
these ethical principles of humanity these
1:33:24
principles can be the basis of human
1:33:26
living together and not rational understand
1:33:28
we believe that rational anderson should
1:33:31
be the ultimate basis of
1:33:33
human living together we will inevitably
1:33:36
laps and to
1:33:37
sort irrationality because
1:33:41
of the essence
1:33:42
no
1:33:44
the doesn't represent the essence of life
1:33:46
and if we make it the essence we
1:33:49
will inevitably
1:33:50
the and end up an absurd irrationality
1:33:53
and more we will destroy
1:33:56
hi
1:33:57
because the essence of life escaped
1:33:59
a
1:34:02
new life on the weekends
1:34:05
the
1:34:06
very one of things
1:34:09
in private and and
1:34:11
, i was watching my now but there was a life
1:34:13
changing moment for the two of us when
1:34:15
i speak to it from my perspective we
1:34:18
had a troublesome pregnancy where we
1:34:20
ended up up
1:34:22
the baby just prior to delivering that
1:34:24
experience for me are brought
1:34:26
up the you know the initial questions
1:34:29
deal board for gun control the situation
1:34:32
i took on that thought and said i'm not
1:34:34
here to decide quality of life not a
1:34:36
don't wanna be a god
1:34:38
figure deciding whether or not this is
1:34:40
gonna be a life of quality that's
1:34:42
not my decision and know and i realize and i
1:34:44
in an instant a try to explain to people
1:34:47
and i think i'm understand more in talking
1:34:49
to you that it was finally
1:34:51
was finally guide it's a producer it's see the problems
1:34:54
ahead and production i'm gonna be was moving
1:34:56
lots and was of money in a production money in
1:34:58
cbs is something i've gotten know the pitfalls
1:35:00
ahead i'm a fixer i not a fix everything
1:35:03
i'm always working situation out i'm
1:35:05
rationalizing i'm incredibly rational
1:35:07
and suddenly in that moment i could not
1:35:09
fix it i couldn't fix it
1:35:11
and anyway and there was something
1:35:14
in finally accepting that
1:35:18
there is something spectacularly
1:35:21
painful and beautiful
1:35:23
about life that i will never be able to control
1:35:25
it and that i don't have control of
1:35:27
these things and i'm going to release it's in
1:35:29
into me it was where
1:35:31
i grew up my father was a minister but i would say
1:35:33
in that moment was where i felt the
1:35:36
connection the something bigger than is something that
1:35:38
is must have some understanding
1:35:40
was taken place here but i do
1:35:42
not and somehow in the release
1:35:45
into that that i cannot change
1:35:48
i , an incredible piece and
1:35:50
incredible power that i think has led me
1:35:52
through all this experience advise me here i've
1:35:54
never been the same person says
1:35:57
and i and i feel like is
1:35:59
the the understanding that this isn't
1:36:01
rash there's no way to rationalize
1:36:04
what's happened me and i'm a victim right in that moment
1:36:07
and until i release to i was a victim
1:36:09
was has been done me why us why
1:36:12
our child when not somebody else
1:36:14
but when i realized that there
1:36:17
are moments in life that cannot be explained
1:36:19
in that is the phenomenon
1:36:21
of it without the dark
1:36:23
places we don't really really appreciate
1:36:26
the light and to really embrace
1:36:30
this if you want to cause chaos
1:36:32
is the beauty of life is it not
1:36:35
i think so that's what the resonating
1:36:37
is i think it's giving up control
1:36:40
it's surrendering
1:36:41
opening your mind and
1:36:44
allowing
1:36:45
something else too
1:36:48
make it resonates
1:36:50
the
1:36:51
the
1:36:52
it's a kind of surrender i think that
1:36:54
will without rational mind because something's right
1:36:56
of control the world around us we try to understand
1:36:59
the to manipulated to control
1:37:01
it and as soon as you can give
1:37:04
up this idea as soon as you can see
1:37:07
that , is an illusion and are lonely a
1:37:10
i'm a onion eight you from
1:37:12
life at that moment
1:37:14
i think you can really
1:37:18
open and and that's something else
1:37:20
move you did something else guide you let
1:37:22
something else something outside the view something
1:37:24
that transcends your own rational
1:37:27
capacities touch
1:37:29
i have said
1:37:31
in talks and not to get to
1:37:33
spiritual on this but through
1:37:35
this journey with this vaccine discussion
1:37:37
and the pandemic i've said many times on stage
1:37:40
i reference the story from genesis
1:37:42
adam and eve and adam and eve are given
1:37:45
perfection a life you have dominion
1:37:47
over the earth everything need clearwater
1:37:50
animals flowers you name it god
1:37:52
says there's only one thing you
1:37:54
cannot do do not eat of the
1:37:56
tree of knowledge good and evil i said
1:37:58
the didn't make sense
1:37:59
don't i wanna have knowledge
1:38:02
of good and evil don't i want to
1:38:04
have those things and then i've said as
1:38:06
i watched this i realize what's taken
1:38:08
place your anything he very well explained he
1:38:10
already have just now it was that mechanistic
1:38:13
world do not believe that
1:38:15
you will feel you will figure out the mechanisms
1:38:18
of life that you will understand what
1:38:20
makes things move what is good what is
1:38:22
bad mean that jeunesse you will
1:38:24
ultimately find yourself all alone
1:38:26
and you will be cast out there you are surely
1:38:29
dot you are not enough space
1:38:31
of acceptance you were going to
1:38:33
go crazy and as really where
1:38:35
we're at now we have to me
1:38:38
you know this is argument that and listen to bring
1:38:40
it back around this is a battle between
1:38:42
good and darkness you know light
1:38:44
and darkness it really is
1:38:46
in a way because it's those that have now
1:38:49
you know been left wanting with
1:38:51
the mechanistic structure the
1:38:54
science is going to bring the reason by which
1:38:56
all things fall into line
1:38:58
but they won't give up they power they now have
1:39:01
and have they are they ones in control
1:39:03
there's an insanity now that
1:39:05
seems to be in our government systems
1:39:07
and certainly or health systems which are merged
1:39:10
and or technology systems which is more
1:39:12
this mechanistic desire to
1:39:14
make the world a utopia place that seems
1:39:17
to as it's tracks us more more
1:39:19
is doing exactly what he was science keeps
1:39:21
doing where it was setting out to out us
1:39:23
free it's imprisoning us
1:39:25
were becoming slaves to this and
1:39:28
the slave drivers of this
1:39:30
insanity seem to be in every position
1:39:32
of power of the world right now
1:39:35
i agree that's also what hundred or
1:39:37
inserts the inserts the the
1:39:39
isn't this this this idea
1:39:42
the human being
1:39:44
gun control everything
1:39:47
his old is
1:39:49
new of them of evil
1:39:50
exactly i think because
1:39:52
what
1:39:53
that a few minutes ago namely the
1:39:56
the right
1:39:59
to read
1:39:59
life to rationality and and
1:40:02
that movements and that action
1:40:04
it cannot else than destroy them
1:40:06
that the done destroy the core of humor
1:40:10
that it
1:40:11
the think system for instance beliefs beliefs
1:40:14
that it should make all the choices
1:40:16
what citizens
1:40:17
then it inevitably destroys this little
1:40:21
bit of space
1:40:22
where every every human being can make
1:40:24
his own choices that every every human being
1:40:27
can
1:40:27
realize itself
1:40:31
her as a singular human being so
1:40:33
that's what makes to put
1:40:35
it that in isn't ultimately humanization
1:40:38
when you point out the different figures that
1:40:40
we've discussed on this show klaus schwab
1:40:42
ah you've all know all harare
1:40:45
who you know whether
1:40:47
or not i can't tell all the time whether he's
1:40:49
just writing about it or if he is completely
1:40:52
and it expressing his own internal
1:40:54
fear of what he can i control
1:40:56
the what he describes as a future
1:40:59
humans are now have
1:41:01
couple animal
1:41:03
you know that the whole a view that humans
1:41:05
have you know this that they they have these
1:41:08
solo spirit of the have free
1:41:10
will and nobody knows what's happening
1:41:12
inside me so whatever
1:41:14
i choose whether in the election or
1:41:16
weathering the supermarket this is my free will
1:41:19
that's over
1:41:20
in and i think of bill gates and these people
1:41:23
involved in this that
1:41:25
they see the only way we
1:41:27
survive is that we must
1:41:30
control humanity to make be appropriate
1:41:32
decisions for themselves that
1:41:34
is the only way we live right to survive
1:41:36
as to live and those of
1:41:39
us that are opposed this idea are saying
1:41:41
that snow we lived as long as if we
1:41:43
if you're fracking under my skin
1:41:45
is yvonne overall read talks about abusive
1:41:48
you're tracking every part of my bio
1:41:50
metrics and then trying to decide how decide think
1:41:52
your humble of votes and controlling harm than
1:41:54
harm vote and can fully this discussed as we have it's
1:41:56
censoring anybody that wants to get me a different
1:41:58
perspective more the three me when i'm
1:42:00
sharing something that i may have just seen
1:42:03
my own way then we died
1:42:06
were dead and these people that literally
1:42:08
i think say , fighting
1:42:11
for our lives in humanity or selling
1:42:13
us the killing what life is so
1:42:15
absolutely absolutely isn't
1:42:18
that's that's the case that
1:42:22
the
1:42:23
the strength and and one of the strangest things
1:42:25
for thing for me has always that they do so
1:42:28
in the name of science bio
1:42:30
science itself all seminal scientist
1:42:32
has exactly concluded that life can
1:42:34
be controlled international
1:42:37
so that leads me to probably what
1:42:39
i would say is the more controversial
1:42:41
part of this button ah in
1:42:43
chapter eight you ,
1:42:45
him because what i've just talked to i pod
1:42:47
votes you've all know harare klaus
1:42:50
schwab bill gates did you know
1:42:52
tony fauzi were discussing these figures
1:42:55
debtor imprinting upon the world
1:42:57
that my in the science we're the answer
1:43:00
you will you know and many many
1:43:02
people the majority at least
1:43:04
of the last couple of years signed on
1:43:07
to as you said this mass
1:43:09
formation we've found some sort of wholeness
1:43:11
in a crazy ritual of locking ourselves
1:43:14
down of vaccinated
1:43:16
ourselves than untested products over and
1:43:18
over and no matter how much it failed it
1:43:20
seemed the just more was the answer
1:43:23
but there seem to be these figures that keep
1:43:26
coming up coming this conversation which
1:43:28
leads me to chapter eight in chapter
1:43:30
eight you discuss the conspiracy
1:43:33
this idea that the conspiracy ah
1:43:35
is where were all sort of leaning
1:43:38
but it's wrong let me just pulled me out of
1:43:40
chapter out of ideology right
1:43:42
fanatical conspiracy thinking
1:43:45
testifies to the almost irresistible
1:43:47
tendency of human beings to find
1:43:49
someone who can be held responsible
1:43:51
in the face of adversity and can thereby we
1:43:53
made the object of aggression
1:43:56
distant probably be seen as one manifestation
1:43:58
of a more general psychological
1:44:00
rule the more anger people feel the
1:44:03
more intentional malice they
1:44:05
perceive now ,
1:44:07
that i think that paragraph and way
1:44:09
really captures the chapter but just
1:44:11
to see of i've got this right you
1:44:14
are arguing that this
1:44:16
mass were mason really any mass for
1:44:18
mister there's a ballistic in this kobe
1:44:20
pandemic thing that we've just gone
1:44:22
through that we
1:44:25
want just like those
1:44:27
captured by the mass formations want
1:44:30
an answer that is simple and makes
1:44:32
sense than in in and therefore fulfills
1:44:35
you know this need to have a truth
1:44:37
lies that on the other side those
1:44:39
of us that question that authority and him stood
1:44:41
up against it's we're seeking a
1:44:44
similarly satisfying
1:44:46
yet hello i'm
1:44:48
i'm world understanding
1:44:51
world driving force which is there's a conspiracy
1:44:54
that's causing this there this a small
1:44:56
group of people they're inflicting
1:44:59
this ideology upon
1:45:01
us that we're all going through and so
1:45:04
to be clear you
1:45:06
believe this master mason though
1:45:08
driven by many as these and ideas
1:45:10
and and ideas that are out there is
1:45:13
more chaotic in it's in his functions
1:45:15
that brings their that is not some
1:45:17
driven you know small
1:45:20
group of people that wrote this out implanted
1:45:22
and created it
1:45:24
the
1:45:27
the trinity
1:45:29
originally written
1:45:30
the deleted
1:45:32
realize very much on
1:45:35
indoctrination propaganda
1:45:36
that has all kind of ideological
1:45:39
plans
1:45:40
the
1:45:40
mean lineup you don't want to see this plans
1:45:43
are going to exist before the crisis and
1:45:45
the they were pushed forward by the elites
1:45:47
the road
1:45:49
large scale
1:45:50
unprecedented
1:45:52
indoctrination and then the
1:45:54
end the propaganda campaigns and so
1:45:56
i'm i'm
1:45:58
one hundred percent convinced of that
1:46:00
the but i didn't
1:46:02
there is one thing important
1:46:04
the make a mistake
1:46:06
he dismissed
1:46:07
read news the problem to this video
1:46:10
everything
1:46:12
the evil
1:46:13
the you that was is only
1:46:16
situated in the elite
1:46:18
that
1:46:19
the only problem hon
1:46:21
that is the elite another probably would be soft
1:46:24
is that if this is no longer exists
1:46:26
then we make a serious mistake for me it's about
1:46:29
that
1:46:30
you need to eating as part of the problem everything
1:46:33
, us if
1:46:35
we
1:46:36
the eliminate this is indeed
1:46:39
a free good to destroy does it eat
1:46:41
in a in a violent revolution
1:46:43
then that would be the most
1:46:47
the
1:46:49
strategic choice we can make
1:46:52
the most self
1:46:54
yes of course by the zero
1:46:56
zero in this small enemy outside of his at
1:46:58
we destroy ourselves house they will destroy
1:47:01
us in the day will destroy course of course
1:47:03
because they will use i would violence
1:47:05
as a justification to to destroy
1:47:07
us and we definitely bill bill bill lose that
1:47:09
we'll we'll we'll we'll lose this game but
1:47:12
and and even if we would succeed in that
1:47:14
is even more important a thing as
1:47:16
long as
1:47:17
people company to think in the same me
1:47:19
as long as people continue
1:47:22
to be in the grip of this rationalist
1:47:24
mechanists ideology
1:47:26
they will simply recreate
1:47:28
the same
1:47:30
regretted not normally nothing will
1:47:32
change the so typical for for a totalitarian
1:47:34
as and and classical dictatorship
1:47:37
it makes sense to try to destroy the classical
1:47:39
dictator because if you succeed in doing so the
1:47:41
system will collapse and it's authoritarian
1:47:43
state it'll the initial
1:47:45
simply be replaced simply because the
1:47:48
point of gravity of the system
1:47:50
is always situated in the most of the vote
1:47:52
in the grip of a certain ideology that something
1:47:54
something important i think so
1:47:57
i believe that the problem
1:47:59
with spit is he thinking with what i call
1:48:01
even article conspiracy think the problem
1:48:04
is not so much a that
1:48:06
you are wrong in this sense that there are no conspiracies
1:48:08
that with conspiracies conspiracies have always
1:48:10
existed but the problem rather
1:48:14
that
1:48:15
the
1:48:16
everything is reduced to conspiracy and at the problem
1:48:18
is reduced to a conspiracy earned
1:48:20
in this way automatically from
1:48:23
such an analysis follows the strategical
1:48:25
advice this elite has to
1:48:27
be the destroyed the
1:48:29
and and definitely and and and self destructive
1:48:33
i'd rather go to some snitching
1:48:35
on actually goes him in the chapter i think a
1:48:38
, says says would be easy to
1:48:40
believe that the problem of authoritarianism
1:48:42
i quotes also to choose from us
1:48:48
russia
1:48:54
is , would be easy to believe that a problem
1:48:56
of authoritarianism , by
1:48:59
one small evil group
1:49:02
but he said we all know
1:49:05
that the dividing line between good and
1:49:07
evil does not run between a
1:49:09
threat
1:49:13
i think we have to
1:49:15
the
1:49:17
hamas don't have to admit that thing that to a
1:49:19
certain extent we are all part of the
1:49:21
problem we all participated
1:49:23
this mechanists
1:49:26
, thinking we all brought
1:49:28
our of money to the banks for instance earth
1:49:31
if they wouldn't be all mighty powerful
1:49:34
the bankers if people
1:49:37
were not willing to bring their money to the banks be all
1:49:39
or part of the system
1:49:41
no one more than the other end of one or more
1:49:43
responsible than the other but the
1:49:45
into a certain extent the think it's best to
1:49:48
see that we're
1:49:50
to certain extent we all thought of the problem but
1:49:53
at the same find but the real enemy
1:49:55
is never another human being
1:49:58
the real enemy is always
1:50:00
the situated
1:50:01
the level of a certain
1:50:03
the way a certain view amenable
1:50:06
certain
1:50:07
the
1:50:11
roll few which which
1:50:13
beliefs that i would human
1:50:15
mind capable controlling
1:50:19
life and and the and
1:50:21
the and reality this this kind
1:50:23
of ideology that created at the same
1:50:25
time at the same time this
1:50:29
kind of thinking this mechanists ideology we
1:50:31
the doctor with aka think in our first conversation
1:50:34
a is this ideology
1:50:36
that brought
1:50:38
a condition in this the problematic
1:50:42
when it became extremely vulnerable for matter
1:50:44
most does the first thing on the one on this ideology
1:50:46
created
1:50:48
certain
1:50:49
a problem and the psychological states and the population
1:50:51
which may which made it is available from masturbation
1:50:54
and about the same time it is this
1:50:56
ideology which created a certain any
1:50:58
specific it in the late too much
1:51:00
believed that it wasn't so duty
1:51:03
to manipulate the population to
1:51:06
through indoctrination propaganda brainwashing
1:51:08
all kinds of psi ops and so on this
1:51:10
new elite a image
1:51:12
throughout the last in last in believe all
1:51:14
four are good right we need we
1:51:17
need something to believe in in order to be whole
1:51:19
therefore let us sort of sees that space
1:51:21
and hand yourself into believing that makes the whole
1:51:24
read the founding fathers of modern
1:51:27
propaganda such as throttle lipman a
1:51:29
bit a nice if you'd read their works
1:51:31
that he was clearly see that they
1:51:34
were
1:51:34
the reasoning
1:51:36
the on the following lines
1:51:38
the
1:51:39
then the the beginning of
1:51:41
modern democracy
1:51:43
the political leaders are not leaders anymore
1:51:46
because they have to be elected that
1:51:48
means that have to follow the masses the and tried
1:51:50
to know what the masses once and then
1:51:52
they have to know him with i think they need to hear yes
1:51:55
think i'd be have to tell them what they need to here we have
1:51:57
to give them what they want or otherwise you won't be reelected
1:51:59
so that's
1:52:00
when
1:52:03
he said he said means
1:52:06
that
1:52:07
we will foreplay
1:52:08
the to the to the destruction
1:52:11
and irrationality of them us because
1:52:13
the masses are intrinsically irrational
1:52:15
and destructive so erm and
1:52:17
the politicians cannot control
1:52:19
meaning that
1:52:20
the if we don't find other
1:52:23
means to control them we will fall prey
1:52:25
to them to them masses and that's where that's where up
1:52:27
with his mother theory of propaganda he said we
1:52:29
have no other option
1:52:31
then to develop an impressive
1:52:34
propaganda machinery and to constantly
1:52:37
manipulate the thief
1:52:39
or the masses control them us
1:52:41
so that's what
1:52:43
the the origin of the
1:52:46
loss of he was why
1:52:48
the propaganda machine that must be
1:52:50
developed and that is
1:52:53
this combination of this population
1:52:55
which as , consequence
1:52:57
of mechanistic thing is brought that
1:52:59
a psychological state would have the sensitive for another
1:53:02
nation propaganda reddit is extremely
1:53:04
vulnerable for him to punish propaganda
1:53:06
and so much maintenance and on the other
1:53:08
hand this edited which right
1:53:11
and only duty to constantly manipulate
1:53:14
the bombs and is this combination to which
1:53:16
on a hundred or and refers the
1:53:18
diabolical pact between the masses
1:53:20
and is it which is the
1:53:23
basis of darkness on audiences
1:53:25
the basis of authoritarianism the essence
1:53:28
of authoritarianism of authoritarianism
1:53:30
the diabolical back between the masses
1:53:33
and it it says in
1:53:35
a way we're we're inseparable
1:53:38
in in some space where we
1:53:40
keep creating you
1:53:42
know our new mask for me see if
1:53:44
we get addicted to the idea of my friends
1:53:46
my friends friends are serious conspiracy theories
1:53:48
they are totally the not happy it
1:53:51
doesn't bring happiness they can't trust
1:53:53
a the around them and their
1:53:55
science which the science a conspiracy
1:53:57
leaves them with the same gaping hole today
1:54:00
if you come to an answer that less than sleep
1:54:02
at night that there's a purpose to life and so we
1:54:04
just keep repeating this because
1:54:06
i'm a deep inner illness essentially
1:54:09
our our original sin i would
1:54:11
say is our need to know when
1:54:13
people come up to me and they'll say
1:54:15
dell how does this end
1:54:17
this mean you're deeply in this you seem to
1:54:19
have to have how does this all
1:54:21
and how do you see this ending and
1:54:24
i used to try and answer that and sometimes
1:54:27
i would give just a short version wall i think we
1:54:29
win or if i was feeling
1:54:31
you know strongly metaphysical
1:54:33
i would say look i'm living my life in
1:54:35
a space of faith and really
1:54:38
i am being imbued the lot of for
1:54:40
site for what we've gotten right but
1:54:42
i've really been taking the appropriate steps
1:54:44
into faith and i feel
1:54:47
like i'm being guided a lot of people don't want
1:54:49
to hear that and you know but in
1:54:51
the end what i realized the real answer
1:54:53
is your need to know
1:54:56
how this ends is our
1:54:58
problem that is why
1:55:00
we're here are exactly right yes yes
1:55:02
yes we are in this predicament
1:55:05
because you keep the sold
1:55:07
some ending that makes you feel like
1:55:10
for a moment there's a purpose to your
1:55:12
life and whoever
1:55:14
he is it to you you buy it until it
1:55:16
comes up short and we keep
1:55:18
going back to the need to know where we're going
1:55:20
instead of recognizing this isn't
1:55:23
defined there is a beauty live
1:55:25
in to your curiosity live
1:55:28
in to your insecurities as you
1:55:30
say this books create ended as we as
1:55:32
create your understanding of what
1:55:34
your life is here
1:55:37
i agree and also i'd i'd
1:55:39
i think it makes no sense to try to predict
1:55:42
what will happen and to try to know when all
1:55:44
this will be finished and so on and how with will and
1:55:46
know the can never really i think
1:55:48
we have to try to understand that of the should always
1:55:50
be aware of the fact that will never be able to
1:55:52
really understand and to predict what will happen
1:55:54
and that in this way be just lose our
1:55:57
energy energy that we should use
1:55:59
at the right little namely
1:56:02
the only thing
1:56:03
the really should
1:56:05
focus
1:56:08
on is the fact that no matter
1:56:10
how inhumane the world around
1:56:13
us becomes that we ourselves
1:56:17
to our ethical principles and if we
1:56:19
do so and will have to reset the universal
1:56:23
but we will have to reinvent them
1:56:25
real secondly them rediscovered
1:56:27
don't make it really our own principles
1:56:30
and if we do that
1:56:31
then
1:56:32
the will
1:56:34
the flu
1:56:36
i would positioning we will go
1:56:38
to a fast evolution as a human being
1:56:40
and that's the real meaning for me
1:56:43
the real purpose of everything that happens
1:56:45
know the and rob you small
1:56:47
group
1:56:48
the true
1:56:49
stay loyal to ethical principles
1:56:52
to the principle of humanity in a dehumanizing
1:56:54
build and this small group will be
1:56:56
pushed on a path that it'll go through
1:56:58
very fast evolution as of him as a human being
1:57:00
does was oh that's for me the
1:57:03
true meaning
1:57:04
of what is now happening this process
1:57:07
, much for this gives us
1:57:09
more precise a
1:57:11
lot of pressure on the people who do
1:57:13
not want to conform to do to go
1:57:16
along the diamond did he well under pressure
1:57:19
the
1:57:20
that's exactly is exactly the reason
1:57:22
this pressure as a real reason why
1:57:24
the small group start the move
1:57:26
it is to funnel that it would never
1:57:28
go to without the pressure of the large group
1:57:31
this way
1:57:32
something really thrown in you will be born and
1:57:34
that's why in the short term i'm realistic
1:57:36
i think it's will be very difficult and sultan
1:57:39
i think this critics
1:57:45
everything's under control
1:57:46
the to the extreme
1:57:48
that that there is no other solution
1:57:51
of for the problems we're facing done
1:57:53
more and more technological control and surveillance
1:57:57
i believe this will be put to the limits my they also
1:58:00
quite company
1:58:02
then there will be a group who refused to go
1:58:04
along omelet with a system and
1:58:06
at this group will be vocal
1:58:09
enough that it will continue to speak
1:58:11
out in the than this way it's will
1:58:13
make sure that there will always
1:58:15
remain a small buff open for a group
1:58:17
to welcome to not only survived the
1:58:19
situation
1:58:21
the also to find
1:58:23
in the situation it's
1:58:25
motivation
1:58:26
the to
1:58:27
go to were a
1:58:29
mental and spiritual era evolution
1:58:32
where it would never go to without the pressure
1:58:35
be exercised okay
1:58:37
so let's stay right there is sort of wrap
1:58:40
this up because we're talking talking
1:58:42
this book about through the breakdown
1:58:44
of society many social experiments
1:58:47
seven people to room you know looking at
1:58:49
a set of wise you know which lines matchup
1:58:52
they've set the other six to say the one thing
1:58:54
is under seven cents to go along with that even
1:58:56
on a looking good defies around reason
1:58:59
all those things but you
1:59:01
know as we in so you say you know we break
1:59:03
down into basically there's a thirty
1:59:05
or forty percent the truly you
1:59:07
know push the agenda believe in the agenda
1:59:10
there's forty to sixty percent in the middle
1:59:12
that just go along with where everything's going
1:59:14
the deep down they don't really feel like a summit
1:59:16
in the deal but they're not going to fight it
1:59:19
and then there's this you know small group
1:59:21
smaller group at the end so
1:59:23
a tween ten and thirty percent that is going
1:59:25
to resist resist where things
1:59:27
are going and stay in the ethics
1:59:29
and and in a place of
1:59:31
reason that makes you know that
1:59:34
that , be affirmed affirmed
1:59:37
so is it that are
1:59:39
we in a tug of war here are we playing
1:59:41
a tug of war with this central group are
1:59:43
we trying are we really
1:59:45
in a battle with that thirty percent on the other
1:59:48
end to become the forty percent that out numbers
1:59:50
them said this group comes our
1:59:52
way or is that just gonna
1:59:54
be another mass formation and we've become the formation
1:59:57
that they follow
2:00:00
we shouldn't become immersed the i'm sure that
2:00:03
if the group who doesn't go
2:00:06
along with along mathematician a becomes a
2:00:08
mess itself it'll be destroyed in a so
2:00:10
my goal on the high were in here should
2:00:12
not be to try and get all the masses
2:00:15
to move my direction
2:00:16
don't think so i think it should be
2:00:19
just too
2:00:20
the articulate
2:00:22
give different voices
2:00:24
the possibility
2:00:26
to resonate and society to
2:00:28
the got all are worried this little group
2:00:31
of individual think as recreating
2:00:33
in other space so and that's exactly what shot
2:00:35
define this group that doesn't
2:00:37
go along with the masses this group should be a
2:00:39
group that shares one
2:00:41
central a virtue namely
2:00:43
that it encourages everly
2:00:45
want to us the have it's own
2:00:48
opinion and
2:00:50
secondly this group should be from in
2:00:52
this group should be formed not because
2:00:54
we all
2:00:56
the back to the same
2:00:57
the com
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the ideology or something new this group should
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be formed because it develops
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strong social bonds between individuals
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people should have other rather
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than this ideal ,
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this or this is connected to
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that was thing wishes
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if you truly humane group
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from us
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this is based on the on one hand
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it encourages this general
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principle for every human being that you have
2:01:26
the right to articulate your own opinion
2:01:29
the am i i just
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i and that this group is formed
2:01:33
because it is based on strong bonds
2:01:35
between individuals rather done
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on the bond between every individual separately
2:01:40
a and collector or bond to an
2:01:42
ideology we share some
2:01:44
ideology and the i mean i can't
2:01:46
tell you as i listened to it this things that things think
2:01:48
i've intuitively sensed
2:01:51
every i've i've said this on on my show
2:01:53
but everywhere i travel one of the things
2:01:55
that people say to me as dell we've got to
2:01:57
figure out a way to get all these different groups
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that
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the against the vaccination are against the locked
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down and then and to come together
2:02:04
we've got to unite all of us come
2:02:06
up with the central theme that we all share
2:02:08
that we become this united front and
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i'd missing the whole time no no
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i mean i mean i number one it will never
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happen all you will do is create
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in fighting for someone
2:02:20
struggling to be the one is going to write that sense lobby
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we're all gonna follow what you're going to be have still
2:02:24
become a dictatorship of some sort to be a battle
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over who gets to make that statement less it instead
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do your guided to do follow your
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intuition is your steve problem mercury
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in vaccines ancestry should know is not brackets
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aluminum still find you fight for the most important
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build since allies and then go with the
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board the results are you know it's only legislation
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that's going to get this and then go to the legislature know
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it's only legal the new developments every
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united center would go with your guide
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to go express i
2:02:51
think we're vessels in something
2:02:54
much more magnificent you
2:02:56
know and we're being guided to
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an individual space that we get
2:03:00
to be the stars of that space right we get
2:03:03
to be enough horde of more
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divinity of whatever ah
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of the algae we create or ideology
2:03:11
we create an estimate right but
2:03:13
we accept each other we love each
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other settler or uniqueness and for being
2:03:17
different that's exactly what they want to say like
2:03:20
was but what i really like setting
2:03:22
much and this in this group of people who
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do not going on with a mainstream narrative
2:03:31
like i would have never talk
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to you never
2:03:35
ever i would have judged you
2:03:38
know how i would have got judgment on you because
2:03:40
if you're sometimes i'm ashamed to say is
2:03:42
because of your appearance of because of what i think
2:03:45
your political your
2:03:47
political or you know i look
2:03:49
at this people i see how different
2:03:51
the or and i realize
2:03:55
you have one characters
2:03:57
that for me so
2:04:01
they will get older
2:04:03
you refuse to go along
2:04:05
with is dehumanizing ideology and
2:04:07
and you one
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the
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the lose a lot
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a just already present
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a little bit afraid of and of humanity
2:04:17
in life and that's enough subsets this if
2:04:19
i see nothing more
2:04:22
what enough of your
2:04:24
that that think that is what makes
2:04:27
i would humans
2:04:28
the human being so beautiful that it this
2:04:30
so
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enter
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genius at that are so many differences between
2:04:37
prominent differences
2:04:40
we should
2:04:41
consider my thing
2:04:45
the greatest threat
2:04:48
enemies is it makes a scary to leads
2:04:50
hard to lead
2:04:52
see of individual is so much easier
2:04:55
to lead a group i've said this people
2:04:57
say why are they doing this to us as you're doing
2:04:59
it must of us are doing on families you're
2:05:01
you're raising your kids scene but not
2:05:03
her just because i said it's just do it because
2:05:05
i said so we're trying to train
2:05:08
the individuality and the questioning
2:05:10
mine and that you know out of our children
2:05:12
because it makes our lives easier if
2:05:14
our whole family just cross country the same time
2:05:16
has fallen that right it's much
2:05:19
harder when you're going every the directed you're going to
2:05:21
get kills you going to be three minutes you know and
2:05:23
so we are grasping for control
2:05:25
from , microcosm of
2:05:28
our families to our churches
2:05:30
to our schools in some ways to develop
2:05:32
something that we all follow but
2:05:34
i have to say and you know it when
2:05:37
i really embrace even i
2:05:39
don't want he hears that
2:05:41
my only goal was to be this
2:05:44
profound and really enjoy
2:05:46
that on the smaller group i think when
2:05:48
we watch that would you allow people was the
2:05:50
high where does this dream some day we're going to
2:05:53
be the majority right majority said right i'd said i've
2:05:55
said is a mansion we are the majority more
2:05:57
people are now rejecting the vaccines
2:05:59
accepting them even those that received the vaccine
2:06:02
we have sort of shifted into
2:06:05
a collective consciousness that is rejecting
2:06:07
this as they could be very difficult you
2:06:10
know we could go on for hours you know
2:06:12
before we got him that he said i think there's gonna be
2:06:14
other viruses are going to just keep hitting these
2:06:16
things but certainly you must recognize
2:06:19
that they have really
2:06:21
hampered i call it did boy who cried
2:06:24
wolf problem that there's
2:06:26
going to be a real issue with
2:06:28
locking us down is doing this to
2:06:30
us again at least if you're gonna keep using
2:06:32
viruses as the with do then so
2:06:35
, but are we still am
2:06:37
i still misguided in thinking when
2:06:39
i say that were a might majority in the
2:06:41
thinking about this is it still
2:06:44
a smaller group that i have to recognize
2:06:46
and be passionate about
2:06:48
i think it's still a small group
2:06:50
do believe that still a
2:06:52
smaller group but that doesn't matter
2:06:55
that's not the size of the group
2:06:57
that that's feel that will allow us to
2:06:59
do a to as i think what for
2:07:01
me
2:07:03
what i hope for the future
2:07:05
that
2:07:06
the new society will emerge functions
2:07:09
according to a real original
2:07:11
ethical principles that's what i hope and
2:07:14
i think it will be a small group rediscovers
2:07:17
these principles
2:07:18
and who would reintroduce is that
2:07:20
that's worth a small group will have to get
2:07:23
in touch with the with with his principles itself
2:07:26
because most of us know it ever look
2:07:28
and and have a look at the people who who
2:07:31
i'm a little going
2:07:33
on with the mainstream narrative mainstream think most of
2:07:35
them myself
2:07:36
they'll have to go a long way before
2:07:39
we really
2:07:42
or in touch with these principles again the
2:07:44
great all still continue to live
2:07:47
very much according to the
2:07:50
habits and the and the ideology
2:07:52
of the old rules of of of of of the of
2:07:54
the of the mechanists ideology to be honest
2:07:56
i think we have we go with on way think think that fb
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that way
2:08:00
then the small group will really it's
2:08:02
already
2:08:03
are you responsible so much and
2:08:05
it will be capable of delivering a new
2:08:07
mobile
2:08:08
for
2:08:10
the society in which human beings can live
2:08:12
a life worth every human being
2:08:16
the fear is that this larger
2:08:18
group right now that technocratic takeover
2:08:21
of the world the tracking systems what
2:08:23
happens if they start atomizer vaccines
2:08:25
in the air or delivering them through mosquitoes
2:08:28
that mean i keep saying it's like in
2:08:30
way revenge of the nerves like these people
2:08:32
that you know it i
2:08:34
came i grew up skiing in and
2:08:37
and then and rock climbing i risk
2:08:39
my own life i feel like these
2:08:42
people are risking all of our lives
2:08:44
to express whatever it is they want
2:08:46
or their challenge of life as we know
2:08:48
it but do
2:08:50
we have to leave that
2:08:53
to kill itself is it going to just
2:08:55
erupt and destroy itself and
2:08:57
we just need to be focused on remaining
2:09:00
clear and getting as many people
2:09:02
i guess metaphorically onto this arc
2:09:05
as are available if you are a part
2:09:07
of this we are building a new society
2:09:09
we are we're getting back to the ethics
2:09:12
that truly are you know
2:09:14
i'm a part of nature in a part of
2:09:16
our connection to it and the rest of this
2:09:19
would you know is gonna do what
2:09:21
is going to do and it will steroids
2:09:24
of the marriage otherness riot definitely
2:09:26
you also
2:09:27
what will happen
2:09:29
they did in the large group the masses
2:09:31
felt exhausted themselves they will destroy themselves
2:09:34
and we don't have to do this that
2:09:36
level be the have to do nothing the only thing
2:09:39
left to make sure that we we ourselves
2:09:41
next to his principles and the first
2:09:44
of these principles and of the have to speak out if
2:09:46
we do that he will constantly
2:09:48
disturb the
2:09:50
i would have the most was constantly break the
2:09:52
break through to hypnosis a little been
2:09:55
a little bit and it'll never go so far that
2:09:57
it's the chooses for the radical destruction
2:09:59
of the people
2:09:59
go against that and so what's
2:10:02
your happiness when something very simple the
2:10:04
boat of the most is slowly will decrease
2:10:07
it's all the system will first become more repressive
2:10:09
it will excommunicated everyone who
2:10:11
doesn't go along with if that's how i feel it but
2:10:14
at the same time it's by what will decrease that
2:10:16
the human energy bill will be destroyed
2:10:18
in the group the by would will decrease and
2:10:20
the small group at first sight
2:10:23
of a loose everything but
2:10:25
and by would will start to increase
2:10:27
that a certain moment
2:10:29
the line to cross each other
2:10:30
the small group will become more powerful powerful
2:10:33
than a large group and it'll be able
2:10:37
most as principles to provide
2:10:39
the principles to reorganize
2:10:42
to they delete and society and the researchers
2:10:44
society and really through the humane
2:10:46
society
2:10:47
the resurrection really
2:10:50
for humanity young something you'd
2:10:52
have to go and it though i suspect
2:10:54
up now
2:10:56
the
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powerful our for
2:11:01
fascinating i'm a know well
2:11:04
i hope people watching are gonna have the composition
2:11:07
unknown and have at the dinner table that ah
2:11:10
mathias so
2:11:13
so happy that real the jewish here
2:11:15
and for those i know i'm i'm going to put this out there
2:11:18
there's questions questions you got here are you
2:11:20
control opposition i hate the end this way
2:11:22
but how did you get into this country does
2:11:24
you get vaccinated
2:11:29
it a little i told my face to face
2:11:31
page
2:11:32
that the gates to america
2:11:34
they're not so small
2:11:36
that i had to leave my principles behind to
2:11:38
go through it and i mean that i
2:11:40
would never do that i would never do that
2:11:43
well i'm not going to ask you how that
2:11:45
your own that are other options says other bob
2:11:47
some and they are perfectly legal okay as
2:11:50
a book is good to know right well
2:11:53
mathias thank you so much freedom
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that emerges i'll emerges i'll enjoy
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the conversation didn't meet him or
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i phone
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though
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i just did with mathias desmond in
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our city are digging did i go too
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deep a move that is too deep
2:13:56
in the weeds and and and i'll and i'll just say this
2:13:59
that's i think i've been cleared that
2:14:01
one of the things on this show is i have
2:14:03
questions for people that i want
2:14:05
to ask and after my last interview
2:14:07
with mathias desmond i thought genius
2:14:09
that would really love to go out some night
2:14:11
and get some dinner with mathias desmond and ask
2:14:13
the questions i would like to go and go deeper
2:14:15
well guess what i i don't have that opportunity
2:14:18
if these you know people like the two years come through like
2:14:20
they did today on onto the show
2:14:23
i want to take advantage of it and not
2:14:25
just beat her to make it entertaining you
2:14:27
just watch what i think this conversation
2:14:30
is all about there's a ton of other things i wanted to
2:14:32
cover but i really follow the nature
2:14:34
of were that was going i hope that
2:14:36
you enjoyed that as much as i did
2:14:38
because i think we really got a deep
2:14:40
insight into how we're
2:14:42
trying to control our world how we
2:14:44
want science and technology to
2:14:46
to to bail us out of our fear and give
2:14:49
us a reason for being and we're losing
2:14:51
ourselves in his or need to know
2:14:53
what we're doing and where we're going we're
2:14:55
just lost the ability to be spontaneous
2:14:57
and i think there was such a brilliant journey
2:14:59
than i am really glad the mathias allow that
2:15:02
to happen well you know if i
2:15:04
if i didn't prove it with this interview this
2:15:06
week i'm going to prove a few next week
2:15:08
that there is no interview that i am afraid
2:15:10
of doing or or anywhere that
2:15:12
i'm afraid of going i am a curious person
2:15:14
and so there are times we were i'm
2:15:16
going to say things are doing things that i sure will
2:15:19
not groove with all of you out there in
2:15:21
the audience i'm not trying to do is
2:15:23
show where i'm a pc i'm certainly don't
2:15:25
appease any sponsors so we're already
2:15:27
gone rogue i don't have a single sponsor
2:15:29
that gets to tell me tell you know i didn't really like
2:15:31
how you cover that are where you went with that but
2:15:33
mine just next week i have had
2:15:36
several people say dell don't do it dell
2:15:38
don't do it are you crazy don't do
2:15:40
it do what this conspiracy
2:15:43
theorist alex brand cocktail health
2:15:45
conspiracy spreader alex jones the most controversial
2:15:47
man in america
2:15:48
maybe hook massacre for one hundred fifty
2:15:51
million dollars decimate
2:15:52
love him or hate thursday
2:15:56
, fifth he lays
2:15:58
it all have seen them creating them
2:16:01
going to take me out because
2:16:06
hi wires your part events from are still my guts
2:16:08
today i want to hear it unfiltered yeah right
2:16:10
the real alex jones their fifties
2:16:13
eleven am pacific time only at
2:16:15
the high wire dot com
2:16:17
we went places that i don't think
2:16:19
anyone's ever gone i'm so happy
2:16:21
that alex jones gave me the opportunity
2:16:24
we certainly had moments where we came together
2:16:26
and aligned on a lotta things we've
2:16:28
talked about we share certain ideas that come
2:16:31
together but i definitely went
2:16:33
to places that were uncomfortable for him
2:16:35
i told him i would and i'm not happy
2:16:37
about some of the things that have happened and i
2:16:39
let that be clear if you want to see all
2:16:42
of that conversation and what took place
2:16:44
when two people that maybe don't see the
2:16:46
world exactly the same come together but share
2:16:48
our thoughts clearly and completely
2:16:51
then you're not going to want to miss next week's show please
2:16:54
check it out a don't be afraid don't
2:16:56
be afraid of this man i think we should
2:16:58
be listening to everybody you should be curious to know
2:17:00
how everyone thinks and a you know
2:17:02
when i think about it you know even joe
2:17:04
rogan said alex jones
2:17:07
is one of the most misunderstood human
2:17:09
beings on the planet i would
2:17:11
agree with him and i think we all
2:17:13
in the studio understood things about
2:17:15
alex we did not know after this
2:17:17
interview or took place so definitely
2:17:19
check that out all right this is
2:17:22
you know not just as a us
2:17:24
news program it's not got some hosts
2:17:27
that will just randomly interview anyone
2:17:29
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2:17:31
show and we reach out around
2:17:34
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which is why we love to support
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that are out there around the world making
2:17:45
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2:17:47
a better way forward which is
2:17:49
why i'm going to talk about this next conference
2:17:52
coming up in australia at first it was
2:17:54
in bath and now it's going to austria
2:17:56
the better way
2:18:22
hum the new me as i would suffice
2:18:25
follows
2:18:37
will be noted into the only
2:18:39
known them
2:19:07
well the better way com first megan's way to
2:19:09
austria next week austria's
2:19:12
been under you know even
2:19:14
probably some of the greatest threat connie measures
2:19:17
we saw with fines for not
2:19:19
vaccinating masking everywhere arm
2:19:22
and dot so i think it's really awesome that
2:19:24
they're going there to sort of really stand
2:19:26
for never letting this happen again
2:19:29
i'm joined right now the by the organizer
2:19:31
maria whom are mortgage or
2:19:33
m de maria i'm
2:19:35
first of all you seem
2:19:38
to be everywhere i saw you in los
2:19:40
angeles and are rally i saw you
2:19:42
in england when in bass
2:19:44
when we're doing a better way conference you are so
2:19:46
dedicated how do you find the
2:19:48
energy like what's lives
2:19:51
honest you dell i know that
2:19:54
we're here for a reason and i
2:19:56
know that we needs to take a stance
2:19:58
in at these times and it's
2:20:01
so good to know that there are so many people
2:20:03
out there where we can join forces
2:20:05
and weekend builds a better way
2:20:08
for way better future is specially for
2:20:10
archie
2:20:11
that's awesome okay so tell me about
2:20:13
austria know this was a little closer to home
2:20:15
for you are so yeah
2:20:18
we reporter on a lot i think some
2:20:20
of the strictest measures we saw around
2:20:22
the world and now you are bringing
2:20:25
you know a conference their what
2:20:27
does a days to begin with people are are begin
2:20:29
the in europe they want to make to trip
2:20:32
ah where are they going to me all about
2:20:35
so we decided to
2:20:37
do a full day true friends so when
2:20:39
you come from abroad it's not
2:20:41
only one day like i came in for the
2:20:43
l a ready for a one day events but
2:20:45
i think it's even nicer if you have more
2:20:47
days to join in seoul ahmed
2:20:50
stops on september fifteenth
2:20:52
it's their estates and ends on
2:20:54
september eighteenth and
2:20:57
to give you a little insight on the programs
2:20:59
i came up with the i fear in
2:21:01
the best way conference involved when i saw
2:21:03
that so many three journalists made
2:21:06
friends with the medical and legal experts
2:21:08
that i said we need to join forces
2:21:11
and we need to have some clothes more
2:21:13
conference days and
2:21:15
arms so i came up with this idea
2:21:17
and i know people ask me hey maria i
2:21:19
can't look through the schedule what's
2:21:22
going on here media people
2:21:24
experts have rallied can you please
2:21:26
define what's going on so to start
2:21:29
to start with the media com friends that's
2:21:31
on thursday fifteenth and sixteenth
2:21:33
we sat the three journalists from all
2:21:36
around the world they need to
2:21:38
have a place where they can speak where they can
2:21:40
sell their journalists friends all around
2:21:42
the world would say think is most
2:21:45
important by the mid september
2:21:47
to tell their fellow colleagues
2:21:49
from all around the world and we sat
2:21:51
also we need to take and opportunities
2:21:54
where they can ask questions to
2:21:56
the experts like robert malone's
2:21:59
he will join or
2:21:59
line
2:22:00
look at it but he will be there
2:22:03
on i'm in person in vienna
2:22:05
and we will also have a pathology
2:22:07
com friends and so the media
2:22:10
people that have their own conference
2:22:12
will also be able to ask the questions
2:22:14
they've always wanted to ask to these experts
2:22:17
that's all
2:22:18
a friday
2:22:20
that's excellent and so then you have a pathology
2:22:23
conferences and none dynasty and doctor
2:22:25
ryan cause you'll be joining you on that
2:22:28
yeah so the thing is that he has a late
2:22:30
flight because he needs to do a presentation
2:22:32
on thursday night so he comes to be and are
2:22:34
very late on friday but she recorded
2:22:36
a video a recent a findings
2:22:39
that he had in the last week's and
2:22:41
he will report or in this video without
2:22:44
it and we will have professor brickhouse
2:22:46
from germany and also and
2:22:48
other experts in the field who
2:22:51
will and show the media people
2:22:53
the latest findings and on
2:22:55
saturday when we start our pets away
2:22:57
conference day we will start
2:23:00
with the panel where we have ryan cold
2:23:02
as a pathologist from the u s a's of the
2:23:04
first time meeting his colleague from germany
2:23:07
and in the panel we will also have professors
2:23:09
will go get box the and his wife professor
2:23:11
because you're not ice and many other
2:23:14
experts and we will have this saturday
2:23:16
in the meaning of and finding
2:23:19
a better way not only in the field of
2:23:21
medical and and and
2:23:24
legal and ways we also have
2:23:26
a professor of politics their professor
2:23:28
lead to go we also have a professor
2:23:31
[unk] economics is professor of egypt vanna
2:23:33
and we all have these experts and of course
2:23:36
also psychologists talking
2:23:38
about lovely can do in these demanding
2:23:40
times about health and challenges
2:23:43
and economic challenges and it's very important
2:23:45
and we reading invites vaccinated people
2:23:47
to come and join us because i
2:23:49
think it's so important that we all
2:23:52
you know reach our hands out to
2:23:54
each other and find a better way for
2:23:56
so many questions to the
2:23:57
they're so awesome the you doing
2:23:59
marie
2:23:59
yeah i love your passionate love that you
2:24:02
are bree all these people together from
2:24:04
around the world i know you're going to be streaming
2:24:06
this lives of people just go to the
2:24:08
website to get involved if you want to stream
2:24:10
in a world council for health dot org
2:24:12
slash newsroom i'm and
2:24:15
we will be screaming live on the high
2:24:17
why are you going to be doing a rally a
2:24:19
there in austria on sunday
2:24:21
and so for those of you if you're on are
2:24:24
taxed are on our mailing list you will get
2:24:26
that link and you'll yeah i mean you'll know what's
2:24:28
happening we're going to sort of buzz you when it's happening it'll
2:24:30
be right here on the website or maria
2:24:32
i wish the best were sending out a team to sort
2:24:35
of follow you and the great work that you're doing
2:24:37
i'm and you know give my best
2:24:39
to everybody there i wish i could be
2:24:41
there and but it's going to be a fantastic
2:24:44
event and so glad you're doing it
2:24:46
thank you so much thanks
2:24:48
right
2:24:50
all right well look i mean
2:24:52
this is what it takes what it takes people
2:24:55
suing for to sign stop
2:24:57
the censorship sometimes we're not the case
2:24:59
against to somebody else is case is thrills we've
2:25:01
had the rallies in los angeles we were able
2:25:04
to beat down a lot of the laws and had a
2:25:06
lot of success in california we support
2:25:08
these rallies i went to the one and than
2:25:10
the conference and bass and then in austria
2:25:12
it's happening everywhere you
2:25:14
are this movement is growing
2:25:17
and there's more more data showing that
2:25:19
we're not even sort of that fifteen
2:25:21
or twenty percent that's mathias
2:25:24
desmond often references that sort of small
2:25:26
minority we are really starting to look
2:25:28
in the numbers to me to be a solid thirty
2:25:30
percent and growing and i know a dignity
2:25:32
has made such a good points about
2:25:35
not being obsessed with time to be the larger
2:25:37
whole we need to be the focus
2:25:39
truth tellers and we carry ourselves
2:25:42
no matter how small that group is is
2:25:44
that group that has the light in that beacons
2:25:46
that brings about did seeds
2:25:49
and and and the better
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