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THE FINE LINE

Released Friday, 9th September 2022
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0:15

born a good afternoon good evening wherever

0:17

you are out there in the world how about

0:20

we all step out onto the high wire

0:23

well as through out the pandemic

0:25

the pandemic seem to be the propaganda

0:27

machine for all the ridiculous

0:30

laws and rules that were sort of thrown

0:32

upon us so i think is particularly

0:35

important when we start seeing hollywood

0:38

celebrities coming out against

0:40

politics especially the politics

0:42

of california soon to be the head

0:45

of these recoding measures and as and

0:47

this time it's a doctor

0:49

one of america's favorite doctors

0:51

coming out against a recently passed

0:54

bill the yoga this

0:55

they could explain how draconian this law

0:58

is twenty ninety the state of california literally

1:00

would be the case that if you we're

1:02

about if i was evaluated patients are you come

1:04

in your my patients and you come in you

1:06

say the cdc recommends

1:09

i get this new i'm a crime the

1:11

vaccine this by the vaccine i'm

1:14

concerned because of what i'm reading suggested

1:16

was only studied on mice and

1:18

of i say anything other

1:21

the standards

1:24

what what would it be standard ship

1:27

empty slogans as specified

1:29

by the academic and the

1:31

bureaucratic structure which would be you're

1:34

over sixty years old is recommended that you

1:36

get this booster if i follow the protests

1:38

if i said for instance are

1:41

you worried he was date on mice are

1:43

, recommended my patients over

1:45

sixty five certainly over seventy five

1:47

is worth the risk risk is anna

1:50

seen very very similar vaccines in

1:52

influenza and this influenza how

1:54

we do with influenza every year we don't test and sirleaf

1:56

in humans every year so that there's a protocol

1:58

out there but if you were thirty

2:00

years old i would say you know that was adjusted though

2:03

said he came out of in circulation last

2:05

this week that suggested that

2:07

in men under forty the risk of my part i this

2:09

is five times higher from the modern

2:11

a vaccine than from covert itself

2:14

right there i would qualify

2:16

as misinformation even though it's factually

2:18

accurate it's a merely

2:20

meet discussing what's available

2:23

in the medical literature with

2:25

my patients that say that patient was angry

2:28

for some reason that they should make

2:30

out anonymous complaint to the state and

2:32

here he could go home ago you know what mom

2:35

and dad and brother and sister you

2:37

guys are like you to make the complaint to here's here's

2:40

a my complaint as much modify

2:42

well a bit a bit some he said in the public as dad

2:44

and like either so add that to it's each

2:46

one of those complaints would be dealt

2:49

with as though a police reports

2:51

have been filed for a criminal actions

2:53

will require a full response with

2:56

citations and will take months

2:58

and months and may require hiring an attorney

3:01

for each case that is what

3:03

they are doing it is absolutely

3:06

out of control i'm sure they're going to to oh no

3:08

no would never use it like that course

3:10

they don't intended that's how these laws

3:13

have unintended effect it will be absolute

3:15

chilling on the practice of medicine

3:17

will become almost impossible the

3:20

practice medicine the way we are trained to

3:22

which is to use our objective reasoning to

3:24

share ideas with our patients and

3:26

to come up with the best possible recommendation

3:29

for that particular patient for that particular

3:32

circumstance

3:34

well obviously we discussed

3:36

his last week the bill ab to

3:38

zero nine eight has got doctor

3:40

drew all pissed off this is the

3:42

the bill that a said seats his past

3:45

that arm allows the

3:47

medical board to go ahead investigate

3:49

anybody any doctor that says

3:52

anything a basically goes against the standard

3:54

operating procedure coming from the cd seats

3:56

visit california bill doc spreading misinformation

3:59

is unprofessional conduct

4:02

and we think about this i said this i went off on

4:04

his last week at the same moment the cdc

4:06

saying they basically got everything wrong

4:08

still releasing a relaxing all

4:10

of those regulations when it comes to social

4:12

distancing en masse and even

4:14

vaccinate your where you can go because none

4:16

of it worked there were dead wrong on all

4:18

of it but every doctor that came

4:21

out against it had issues but i think

4:23

one of the points he's making we suggest real

4:25

down a little bit more he saw him out

4:27

the new booster shots or that

4:29

involves the ahmed from virus they decide

4:31

to sort of you know update the the

4:33

are booster shot with all the crimes

4:35

and instead of like doing a human

4:38

trials they decided to do a

4:40

mouse firebirds even worse that he

4:42

wasn't just like a mouse foul deciding the

4:44

fate of millions if not billions of people

4:46

around the world it was a three

4:48

tiered mice and what not

4:51

to do get recycled to his other

4:53

we'll talk out about this you know talk against

4:55

this would you know more bags just

4:57

like many people who were the out about this look

4:59

at this this is what some the com is that were made about this

5:02

trial and twenty one is a j by the cari

5:04

us in twenty twenty one the by the administration

5:06

fauzi and the cbc made a bet

5:08

on the basis of incomplete randomized

5:10

trial data us that the bass would stop

5:12

kirby transmission not vax

5:15

mandates and discrimination followed for

5:17

the new boozer summer making the same bats

5:19

based on data from eight mice

5:23

this is ian miller if intellectually

5:25

honest media still existed it

5:27

would probably a bigger story that new boost or

5:29

those was authorized will be relentlessly

5:31

promoted based entirely on data

5:33

from a mice and this

5:35

is represented very miller the bad enough the

5:38

a is authorized the new probably booster space

5:40

or data from eight my is the last time the f

5:42

d a approved boosters to see your at the

5:44

a officials design is time for serious

5:46

oversight reform as the of yeah you saved

5:49

and that lastly our favorite doctor

5:51

or so today's the of the a revival

5:53

of be a five boosters because

5:56

of an unspecified emergencies

5:58

the booster was tested on drama oh

6:00

eight mice that's it

6:03

it would be given a millions of people next week's

6:05

this is not gallows humor just

6:07

gallows

6:09

i mean really is

6:11

outrageous in a what you had to think about as

6:13

the try to say it's just like the flu shots

6:15

or the flu shots been used for decades is

6:17

that when they update that's they decide they don't

6:19

have the cp trials that efficacy trials

6:21

all over again i think they should actually i've

6:23

been arguing that for a long time is still

6:26

a different products i don't care what they say so but insists

6:28

circumstances they never did a proper long

6:30

term city trials because they put it out

6:32

during emergency use authorization so

6:35

we have no idea of long term effects

6:37

we still have no idea of long term effects always

6:39

your football players and soccer players and softball

6:41

players slimy headfirst into the ground

6:43

stars and comedians and people dying

6:46

suddenly and asleep everywhere we look we

6:48

see a rise in excess mortality

6:50

all over the planet earth as ten

6:53

obvious ways well zapper list

6:55

oh with this eyes adjust duplicate it without

6:57

any further review well we'll throw

6:59

eight myself the voyeuristic out see that

7:02

as they can afford fifty miles roderick

7:04

most or how about a thousand mice and

7:06

you saw this study is a disaster know

7:08

mouse jobs out the said they literally or

7:10

all big affected in different ways but

7:13

i wanna say this to doctor drew though it's really

7:15

great that you're speaking the truth now it's

7:17

pretty much a day later dollars your where

7:20

were you when all the people were gathered

7:22

at the capital of the last several weeks trying to

7:24

fight this bill for you

7:26

the your moms and dads out there trying to

7:28

fight for you the doctors where were

7:30

you

7:30

when you could have made a difference in imagine

7:33

doctor drew a view to walk to the politicians

7:35

offices and set it off on one of america's

7:37

favorite dogs as on television and i'm totally

7:40

against this bill you know i would love

7:42

to see it is you just decide to every

7:44

once in awhile be brave

7:46

stuff bobsled for what you

7:48

actually care about like your own career

7:51

and the future of medicine as we know it

7:53

all right

7:54

let me just calm down here a second

7:56

to really huge sale com and up and i also

7:59

want to talk about you know what it means to

8:01

be a good doctor doctor drew is is

8:03

is afraid of sir stepping out there

8:05

and doing was right about the doctors

8:07

that have been stepping out there i want to talk

8:09

to one of them right now middle talk about

8:11

doctor paul thomas who is been there

8:14

all the front lines at state capitals

8:16

standing in front of medical boards taking

8:18

on bringing the truth out from his own

8:20

practice on what's going on with children and

8:23

now got a lawsuit take a look at this was

8:25

i must take it into the mates this is

8:27

how you do it's portland pediatrician

8:29

files a thirty five million dollars defamation

8:32

suit against state medical board

8:34

members i like that a heck

8:36

of lot better than wanting about a law that you didn't

8:38

do anything about when it mattered so let's

8:40

talk to doctor paul thomas right now

8:42

he joins me ah

8:44

you know first of all as or there's

8:46

a lot of people that don't know who you are

8:49

so just to be a sense of how

8:51

you really got yourself in trouble very

8:53

quickly would you back vs on back study

8:57

a doubt great to be on the show with you your cracking

8:59

me up with this all the story but yeah

9:01

so here's what happens fourteen years

9:04

ago i started my practice integrated pediatrics i

9:06

left a mainstream group practice because i

9:08

was seeing kids are getting harmed by

9:10

vaccines that was pretty clear it was just

9:12

bam bam so i started practicing

9:14

we aren't informed consent well overtime

9:17

the medical board got wind of this i

9:19

guess or maybe was the publication my birth

9:21

of the vaccine friendly plants whatever they

9:23

started coming after me and then they'll never

9:25

has been by the way folks for me just pointed out

9:27

our heels i got blown frugal as

9:30

understand a doctor paul we have

9:32

like millions more followers every time

9:34

you come on this show so i wanted to make

9:36

sure everyone knows the work that you're doing for

9:38

those of you out there that requests your vaccines

9:40

are want to dip your toes your book is a vaccine

9:42

family plan which is sort of lay out a

9:44

safer way to vaccinate sort of spreading

9:47

the mountain maybe a different schedules if you're is

9:49

this is insisting that approach or

9:51

up so continue on okay

9:54

so that book was written with the best understanding

9:56

i had back then pop right when he sixteen

9:59

two years later them

9:59

the board that's common with complaints now these are

10:02

not patient generated complaints i don't know where

10:04

they're coming from it's just actually

10:06

they were going after my data they wanted the

10:09

data that was in that book because that book

10:11

showed that the and vaccinated

10:13

patients had far less autism

10:15

they basically had far less

10:17

how chronic health issues so

10:21

january twenty ninth

10:22

the medical board sends me a letter and says prove

10:25

that the vaccine friendly plan is as safe

10:27

as the cdc schedule i mean

10:29

i had the last the cdc has never done

10:31

any study comparing one year to the next

10:34

they've ever compared the

10:35

vaccine schedule to know vaccines

10:37

or to partial vacuum they just don't do that

10:39

so they want me to do that form of that that's impossible

10:42

and somebody had a brilliant idea hire an

10:44

outside experts get the data so we

10:46

did we looked at every

10:48

single patient in my practice up

10:50

to the point of that dataset being close we had

10:53

ten and a half years of data it was published

10:55

in the international journal environmental research and public

10:57

health and this was the largest

10:59

real world patient data

11:02

vast on back

11:03

it is again so again how many

11:06

kids altogether did you have your prices you

11:08

a huge practice their me with that the numbers

11:10

well yeah it it was probably

11:12

at that time we had fifteen thousand

11:14

patients but they're looking at a data set of

11:16

a little less than four thousand because okay we

11:19

were only looking at the was actually

11:21

born into my prayer oh i see okay

11:23

see limited yeah we're born it's and let's be

11:25

clear that think this is quite brilliant the

11:27

cdc has never done a study

11:29

of talked about this a lot of times institute of medicine

11:32

verified this are in in

11:34

in it's higher dissertation that they gave

11:36

that they've never compare the outcomes

11:39

of like the full of vaccine schedule

11:41

south they asked you to do a go on a shadow

11:43

boxing miss admission could how to use

11:46

employer your safety to their safety

11:48

when they've never established safety this program

11:50

so them to be clear what you decided

11:52

to do was okay but i

11:54

do have a large

11:56

group of children in my practice that use

11:59

the cdc schedule so i have

12:01

all of the evidence that they provided

12:03

then i have the other ones my practice that did

12:05

it is the cdc schedule and i can compare

12:08

the two schedules outweighs that basically we

12:10

decided to do wow

12:12

close so young you are dead the looking

12:14

at every single patient born in my

12:16

practical got no cherry picking there was

12:19

no we're going exclude you for this or that every

12:21

baby born was look that we looked at every

12:24

single office visit we stratified

12:26

them according to the number of vaccines they

12:28

had okay so basically

12:30

we had over five hundred who had zero

12:32

vaccine we had another three

12:35

thousand seven hundred and some who had

12:37

some vaccines and what we

12:39

found out was actually even mind-boggling

12:41

for myself i mean i a sense, i've

12:44

had a practice now for 14 years where

12:46

get to decide the one thing

12:48

i am absolutely on, is informed consent, the

12:52

parent, get to decide what gets into

12:54

your baby if anything you should

12:56

always insist on that or else to walk out of

12:58

that doctor's office but because we do

13:01

informed consent, we

13:02

had a a number of and vaccinated

13:04

patients and what i was clearly seeing was

13:06

these kids don't get sick they don't get chronic

13:09

conditions while the data spoke for

13:11

itself and you're showing your viewers the ground

13:13

as those yarns lines are

13:15

over time over that ten and a half years

13:18

the more vaccines you had the worst

13:20

you were for whether we looked at infections

13:22

eighty d h d a narrow developmental

13:25

issues eczema allergies it

13:27

doesn't matter what we looked at even

13:29

just plain all anemia skyrocket

13:32

the vaccinated when compared to the blueline

13:34

the and vaccinated

13:36

this data is so

13:38

powerful that within five

13:40

days of it being available online they

13:43

yanked my license december third twenty twenty

13:46

the organ motherboard has an emergency meeting

13:48

the spend in my license i was

13:50

supposedly a threat to

13:53

public health

13:55

the maisie me really like in in they really

13:58

should have come in the said we'd love see

14:00

that data this is very interesting information

14:02

since we've never done this study ourselves

14:04

like we should have can we look at the data

14:06

can you walk us through it they never did they ever

14:08

do that like can you walk us through

14:10

where your data comes from let us sort of

14:12

cross reference it may be bringing some outside

14:15

scientists to test you know whether

14:17

or not you know this sort of repeats

14:19

depending on who's looking at it right i

14:21

did you have any offers like that no

14:24

not nothing at all they

14:27

i mean you're absolutely right view organ

14:29

medical board if their interests as the health

14:31

of the population they should have been

14:33

the reading the news about that i credible

14:35

difference in outcome i mean it's

14:37

absolutely amazing

14:39

the you been battling back and forth for

14:41

your license you know multiple times

14:43

where are you currently at right now with your

14:45

license or you license in oregon yeah

14:48

so six months later my attorney

14:51

realized wait a minute these folks

14:53

didn't file

14:55

when you take someone's license emergency

14:57

you have to simultaneously or very soon

15:00

after that

15:01

filed for why you're doing that there

15:03

you you you cannot just yank somebody

15:06

his livelihood and then oh too bad

15:08

well they forgot to do that or they neglected

15:10

to do that or whatever so they were kind

15:12

of in trouble then he got them to agree

15:16

i still signed this duress

15:18

doubt because they restricted me

15:20

from, i can't talk to patients about vaccines

15:22

i can't talk to my staff about vaccines

15:25

i can't see well children and can't

15:27

do research on patients that tells

15:29

you what they're what they're worried about, right?

15:31

right thing

15:40

and obviously, they're not going to to right?

15:42

and everyone every one of the of doctors we watch,

15:45

like you just come on the show you know even

15:47

bob seger is again is back under review

15:50

they just keep coming at you because until

15:52

they have totally crushed you

15:54

and destroy your practice and six yards

15:56

a business did they don't seem to let up

15:58

so he decided to

15:59

the opposite so be on the defensive you're

16:02

going on the op answers to tell me about the case

16:05

yeah so dallas since they took my license

16:07

the twenty they've had over thirty different request

16:09

of me i mean these letters come monthly

16:11

sometimes weekly you're absolutely right they

16:14

allow their intent on destroying you

16:16

have a hearing coming up in november but it's just

16:18

kangaroo court and every single

16:20

legal mind that including air and syria

16:23

who i know works for you have every

16:25

single legal mind is saying is a kangaroo

16:28

court you will be destroyed and you're gonna

16:30

run up a half a million dollar bill that they're

16:32

going to force you to pay

16:33

no i i kept looking for an

16:35

attorney who would actually soothe them because what

16:37

they have that is so illegal and so

16:39

wrong and thankfully the

16:41

junkers appear id and man

16:43

let me

16:44

how you we have sued the medical board

16:46

on earth violating freedom of

16:48

speech violating due process

16:51

so they cannot it your individual

16:54

property be that my license or the destruction

16:56

of my practice fabricating

16:58

evidence right at the utilization

17:00

of government power to violate my due process

17:03

is on paralleled they

17:05

have failed in their supervisory capacity

17:07

so am actually individually suing each

17:09

member of the board and

17:12

you know the the the ridiculousness of

17:15

what they've done is that they're basing almost

17:17

every single allegation on the fact that i

17:19

provide informed consent

17:21

they want doctors

17:23

follow the rules of the cdc i

17:25

watch the beginning of your show and that exactly

17:27

what is happening california you just say

17:29

what the cdc says you're okay otherwise

17:32

we watch your life and

17:34

you know informed

17:35

that is not the danger the

17:37

knowledge or is people have sued because

17:39

i thought it was the law did forget about the danger

17:41

i thought was actually the law thought you

17:43

know since we like hung a bunch of not need

17:46

own nazi doctors we

17:48

recognize that the free informed consent

17:50

of the of the pace it was critical to

17:52

modern healthcare so the idea that we

17:54

are abandoning that's and then it's hacking

17:57

any doctor that wants to give you full would want

17:59

to said would

17:59

here is all the benefits you're all

18:02

the negative those here's what we don't know

18:04

which doctor drew beautifully laid out

18:06

yes there was only eight my studies in

18:08

this i've been told i have to recommended

18:10

to you and maybe if we are in and a recess

18:13

a high risk for him he says you know i suppose

18:15

i would recommend it's but if you're under the age of forty

18:17

i happen to know that it causes my part

18:19

i just had a ridiculously

18:21

in fees race and as soon as i say that i'm in

18:23

trouble so you know here you are but

18:25

i want to make this point you know people

18:28

to see this is a law suit or some sort

18:30

of vendetta between you and your medical boards

18:32

but right now you're you're you're

18:34

representing the world you're representing doctor

18:37

drew down and california's the president's

18:39

that needs to be set right now is so

18:41

critical we need to back his medical

18:44

boards off and allow the doctor patient

18:46

relationship to stay intact to allow you

18:48

guys to make decisions with your patience is

18:50

patient has a totally different critical

18:53

history's most the time you know their families

18:55

you know their children's you know their siblings you know

18:57

was doing all with them in a weakness as they have

18:59

you done all the blood tests and so used

19:01

to be a be able to evaluate them separately

19:04

for what the cdc says from some back

19:06

room bureaucrats that have never seen a patient

19:08

the last five decades or you

19:10

know obviously very passion about this but

19:12

how do we help you with this case because i think it's really

19:15

critical

19:16

thank you do i'm act absolutely

19:18

fighting for every kid in the world we

19:20

have got to get the power away from these

19:23

boards that are actually changing

19:25

as you pointed out the whole patient doctor

19:27

relationship is being destroyed

19:29

in front of our eyes so i've got a i've

19:31

got a website for donations and prayers

19:33

at dr paul fight dot com and

19:36

allies or judah you know if

19:38

you're a prayer warrior do that

19:40

i could use all that support and if you can support

19:43

with some financial means we are going

19:45

to continue to take it to

19:47

until i am six feet under man

19:50

i'm around and up this one thank you all

19:52

of you viewers who have supported my

19:54

work so far where in this together

19:56

absolutely you know dr paul

19:59

you have been a war you're a crusader

20:01

i see you everywhere as we travel around

20:03

together and we end up you know speaker many stages

20:05

together i'm so glad you're bring

20:08

the spite to them i i hated the look

20:10

of you running in the moments that you had

20:12

to and so you're standing strong

20:14

we stand with you i support the one hundred

20:16

percent this is a very important mission so everybody

20:19

a definitely check out the website let's see it one

20:21

more time here it is if you want to

20:23

send prayers or give a donation

20:25

dr paul fight dot com that's

20:27

where you go this guy is really doing

20:29

it folks and boy do we need

20:31

more doctors like this as we move into this crazy

20:34

future we're living into all right doctor

20:36

paul thomas that you for your time

20:40

all right well look i said it before

20:43

she says every week i feel like every

20:45

week i have like a as an

20:47

an interview that's even more amazing

20:50

than the last week me last week

20:52

such a fantastic interview with doctor

20:54

loud pop a coming up and will sit

20:56

down with mathias desmond this

20:58

is the belgian psychologists

21:00

that out really first brought us the mass

21:03

formation concepts and his book

21:05

the psychology of to tell a terry aneurysm

21:07

arm i spoke with him when that

21:09

book was just about to come out but now

21:12

i see was savings you know we have a different

21:14

do rights the pandemic for the most most

21:16

part is on pause all the restrictions

21:18

and all that to tell surrealism has disappeared

21:21

off for the moment and i wanted to as

21:23

mathias and really get first north with

21:26

where do we go from here how did we get

21:28

here does he see it any

21:30

different now that we're looking at this in a rear view mirror

21:32

a bit then when he was in the middle of it reading

21:35

this book so all those places are coming

21:37

up right around the corner really excited

21:39

at that the first example the jackson

21:41

the for

21:50

ri

21:52

jeffrey i'm yeah i love it when we see

21:54

you know hollywood you

21:57

know celebrities starting to squirm

21:59

after they sort of silently or

22:01

even promoted these ideas

22:03

and we've seen this coming right we saw

22:05

when a comedian collapse doctor drew

22:07

interviewed her and will start to see

22:09

like you know a thread being pulled

22:12

on him where he seems have had

22:14

enough with his vaccine and now this

22:16

law is just taken over the top so maybe

22:18

someday the future will seem standing on a stays

22:20

with us when we're fighting for freedom around

22:23

the country around the world

22:24

they've got a fascinating how does rolling awakening

22:27

happens you know people that come into the

22:29

light and you know it elite is being humble

22:31

about it that's a beautiful thing they come in and

22:33

you know whether they don't or not there's a there's a lineage

22:36

of people asked up before them they're always as

22:38

even before us so it's great

22:40

to see them just being humble and just speaking

22:42

out and take him taking that truth right

22:44

to the mainstream audience that they have speed

22:46

you mainstream audience let's go over

22:48

to the uk i tv show

22:51

good morning it's a very popular morning

22:53

show their they recently went from kind

22:55

of light hearted messaging you

22:57

kind of a tone deaf dystopia

23:00

take a look at this okay

23:02

we got we got will say

23:04

you energy bills got thousand pounds

23:06

as well so this is energy bills i think

23:08

for four months if it stops on

23:11

that night so ,

23:13

you out loud your energy bills

23:15

you bit worried about the old major

23:19

yeah okay i'll get one

23:21

of these pre time of time is and is absolutely

23:23

murder now go right well

23:25

as i depends on one of those them

23:27

what are you going to win some money

23:28

marry him again and y one

23:30

way or another

23:40

no thousand

23:41

energy bill fees

23:44

, to be

23:51

email moscow

23:54

news we're paying your energy

23:56

bill for four months

23:58

the sensors

23:59

the

24:00

i were a slow release

24:02

thank you very much

24:03

listen wealth on yea that's brilliant

24:06

hawker always living closer and closer

24:09

to the hunger games years like entertainment

24:11

will he feed his family or yet

24:13

the heat is our list been with a resident

24:16

why does he survivor and i mean it's so

24:19

crazy it is so bad the right moves

24:21

energy bills literally we talked

24:23

about this it was thought about last several weeks

24:25

you know of the four five times

24:27

the amount it was last year and continuing

24:31

ah so i was amazing it it seemed

24:33

like oh really want to win the thousand pounds

24:35

thousand pounds nothing compared

24:37

to his home energy bill i'm really

24:40

amazing me what's going

24:42

on here where we at sox a

24:44

one of the big headlines recently i just came

24:46

out in this this is the ripple effect here

24:48

and this is really where it's gonna shut the have

24:51

the showdown so the european union most

24:53

of europe gets it's gas from gazprom

24:56

this pipeline in european energy prices

24:58

threat to russia cuts off and natural

25:00

gas pipeline to germany this that nord stream one

25:02

pipeline it's a russian state on

25:04

company gazprom own this

25:06

and they're basically saying you

25:08

know it's kind of fog of war right now

25:10

this is like an energy war that

25:12

we're in and russia saying

25:15

look because you the sanctions we have

25:17

a turbine that's broken one of a major turbines

25:19

that where the engine pumping stations we can't

25:21

restart the sing at least be extra work

25:24

can't go through because the the sanctions a lift

25:26

sanctions will restart it in germany

25:28

is saying is germany's the biggest importer

25:31

of russian oil over fifty percent

25:33

before the russian ukraine conflict have been trying to

25:35

cut their back obviously we've been reporting

25:37

on that ways they've been doing it but they're saying

25:40

that that's beside the sanctions you're using this as

25:42

war so you know the once i saying one thing

25:44

one side same the other but the population

25:46

is caught in the middle of this and let's

25:49

listen to so are the sanctions coming

25:51

off what is germany going to do let's

25:53

listen to their foreign minister her name is

25:55

anna lena bareback and she

25:57

recently was in public and

25:59

the to say about the sanctions takeover

26:02

i give the promise to

26:04

people in ukraine we send

26:06

with you as long as you

26:09

need us then i once to

26:11

deliver no matter what my german voter

26:13

thing but thing wanted to deliver to the people

26:16

of ukraine and this and this for

26:18

me it's important to be always

26:20

very frank and clear and this

26:22

means every measure i'm taking

26:24

i have to be clear that this holds

26:27

on as long as ukraine needs

26:29

me we are facing now winter time

26:31

where we will be challenged as democratic

26:33

politicians people will go on the

26:35

street and say we cannot price

26:37

pay or in a kid prices and

26:40

i will say yes i know so we

26:42

help you with social measures but i

26:44

don't wanna say okay then we

26:46

stop the sanctions against russia

26:48

we will send with ukraine and

26:50

this means the sectional was they also

26:53

wintertime even if it gets really

26:55

tough for put politician

26:58

the really amazing these those moments

27:00

when i look and and think i would never really wanna

27:02

be present a united states or something like that

27:04

but a shocking statement that we

27:06

a sense they were were were more committed

27:09

to the war in ukraine

27:11

then we are to our own people least you

27:13

could take it like that and i think

27:15

the same thing is we start seeing you know

27:18

or issues here financial issues

27:20

the billions of dollars being poured into some

27:22

other country and then use the worse

27:24

as were without investment be if it was

27:26

invested into our own country i'm sure

27:29

in germany as their you know as we thought

27:31

about the plane me on what's eating museums and libraries

27:33

for the elderly people are going to die over

27:35

there that this doesn't get worked out

27:38

and it just seems more important that they still stay

27:40

in his war i don't know just

27:43

really odd decision making at the moment

27:45

as we look around the world

27:47

there are an idiot and eleven of their said

27:49

that even if there's has in the winter we

27:51

don't have to wait till the winter to see the protests

27:53

were seeing these protests happening in prague right

27:55

now here's a headline of american

27:58

newspapers seventy thousand

27:59

protests in prague against jack government

28:02

you and nato of their inner

28:04

basically calling for neutrality

28:06

in the russian ukrainian war and

28:08

they're they're protesting all there are energy

28:10

prices and everything like that so this

28:13

is this is where we're going there people are taken

28:15

to the street already and that

28:17

they're identify nato it's interesting as

28:19

the north american tree organization as the inner

28:21

governmental military alliance that has been

28:24

over decades slowly surrounding russia

28:26

so it's interesting that they're they're saying

28:28

by stop at this military it is military

28:30

interventionism and and pushing

28:32

russia to this this possible

28:34

it is invasion a lot of up a lot

28:36

of historians has said that's that's really

28:38

what one of the reasons has happened here so get

28:40

a populace is very educated now with

28:42

the protesting and and their demands a specific

28:45

demands and in that article here

28:47

this is what when the organizers said he said

28:49

quo the aim of our demonstration

28:51

of the demand change mainly in solving

28:53

the issue of energy prices the special electricity

28:56

and gas which will destroy our economy

28:58

this autumn event co organizer

29:00

yari have all told idea de

29:02

de any as dot cz news

29:04

and so a couple weeks ago report

29:07

on these us pp and meters these

29:09

prepaid meters nuts with a gentleman said

29:11

in the wheel of wheel of energy their skis

29:14

things are going across the uk and

29:16

europe especially nice the headline

29:18

here there now being there now of forcing

29:20

the my customers so smart meter fury homeowners

29:23

left in two years after men broke into

29:25

house to install meter now

29:27

a couple weeks or report they are automatically going

29:29

to be switching people over these prepaid meters

29:31

to form a smart meter or were you

29:33

have to like it though the name says you have to prepay

29:36

before you get your energy and

29:38

there's obviously issues if you can't do that

29:40

and this is off janice the government regulator

29:43

for the electricity their the people that are doing this

29:45

in in in this mountain in this case but

29:47

in the uk as well and so that's

29:50

the tell you know so to speak that's the temperature

29:52

in europe which is a pretty dire

29:54

one going into the winter here how is it happened

29:57

united states what's going on here well maybe all

29:59

immigrants

29:59

i know we get it you know we were talking

30:02

about like paying off college here and things

30:04

like that which really only affects some

30:06

you know group of people that went to

30:08

college how about all those that already paid i mean we

30:10

have those discussions right but when you look

30:12

at a situation like this really honestly

30:15

this seems to me where the government of they

30:17

want to be in some war and be

30:19

involved in this thing why aren't there subsidies

30:22

happening there why are the people being

30:24

forced to sort of take the brunt of

30:26

these what a really you know geo political

30:29

situations and they're just choices

30:31

made by the politicians so we can him

30:34

again send billions of dollars over

30:36

the other nations to just blow buildings

30:38

apart and what have you but where

30:40

is it you know i think about this in the in the housing

30:42

crisis we had you know where we have been

30:44

have we just taking care of the people that own the homes

30:47

instead of bailing out banks this is the the

30:49

the type of thing that just really starts to

30:51

you know upset me i'm sure there's libertarians

30:54

out there screaming dell know you don't get it i

30:56

don't i don't fully get this this is where i

30:58

get really confused on it it does

31:00

money going out where should

31:02

it go you know shouldn't take care of

31:04

the people in a country that are paying taxes

31:06

in that country

31:08

right in you know a today these

31:11

people don't really have the appetite for war that

31:13

the used to same rover it's you or even the

31:15

iraq war works there you know

31:17

we're we're to there's a populist that was behind them

31:19

the sanctions were worth it but now it's

31:21

directly affecting people's food and energy

31:23

bills in their ability to live in heat and see their

31:25

families with with a war that's

31:27

really not that popular at mean it with outside

31:30

like the hollywood elites or the does

31:32

the mainstream media how it's interesting how the things

31:34

going to play out in on the population in prague

31:37

maybe via an example of what is the

31:39

com and united states is this is

31:41

what we're looking at here in colorado state

31:43

you're familiar with rice is a headline

31:45

coming out of their thousands of exile

31:47

customers locked out of thermostats during

31:50

energy urgency twenty

31:52

two thousand people lost control or temperatures in their

31:54

homes and we are a little

31:56

screenshot here of what that look like into

31:58

the these are the thermostat the smart thermostats

32:01

that they haven't even get a little i'm

32:04

gonna phones like the allowance and it's that

32:06

the earth's temperature lock temporarily

32:09

due to energy emergency they're calling they're calling energy

32:11

emergency now is the shocking headlines

32:14

of course but it's important understand the

32:16

people that had this happen to them the xl

32:18

customers and a lot of states have this

32:20

with xl is it it's called an x

32:23

l a c rewards

32:25

programs you actually opt into this the

32:27

when times were the the energy

32:29

is surging in those areas you

32:32

agree to let them change your

32:34

thermostat now that the

32:36

contention here was that they

32:38

were locked out so allow the customer said

32:40

look i look i went into this thinking like

32:42

and help the grid you guys can just play around with

32:44

my thermostat as you need to aid in the hot days

32:47

but they didn't know that they couldn't change they

32:49

can opt out and say look i

32:51

turn this off some might want my air conditioning

32:53

back on some rather have a hard time here that that

32:55

was a big where the big things that but in

32:57

the article and let's be clear

32:59

i mean this is just a trial on a small

33:02

group of people this is clearly were all

33:04

of these things wanna go south as you're

33:06

installing the smart meters all of your home

33:08

and your nest machines and all that i

33:10

did you read all the fine print i know

33:12

you know i read by those things because i'm not

33:14

going to sit down to it's but i'll bet you somewhere

33:17

in that fine print says that it is you know we

33:19

decide to make a deal with your energy companies

33:21

they may actually be able to jump in

33:23

here and circumvent you your cell phones

33:25

and your own energy bill was it is critical

33:28

right now is the show that these

33:30

types of measures we keep looking i'm a

33:32

nowhere and international show but

33:34

we're here in america us we'll see we'll

33:36

see these stories in other countries are all that will never

33:38

happen here i give you know the city's

33:41

us waddle on through my life's not worry

33:43

about these things but clearly that's not the case

33:45

they are working on measures to the

33:47

they can control us here to

33:49

on these exact situations i'm

33:52

so it's really is very disturbing and

33:54

it's the the fact that it's all happening at the same

33:57

time around the world just like cove

33:59

it's i just

33:59

remember

34:00

when we lived in a world where

34:02

every single nation was

34:04

like moving in the same exact direction

34:07

as the same exact time it's almost

34:09

like there's us smaller group

34:12

in charge of the entire world and

34:14

not necessarily our own political leaders

34:16

but that would be conspiracy theory and i'm

34:18

not gonna go there

34:20

we as an important to understand that the technology

34:22

obviously this framework exists these

34:24

are beta test these are iteration old technologies

34:26

that are being used and tens of thousands of people

34:28

if not more minutes one headlines but

34:30

the a couple weeks ago we we covered this

34:32

from california as well as lot happening in

34:34

that stay again and this was in california

34:37

to ban the sale of new gasoline cars

34:39

that were shock have my for lot of people but

34:41

now the california is is

34:44

experiencing as an energy crisis

34:46

of it's own because of the heat wave and

34:48

the air conditioning units been use their

34:51

so this the settling coming out to california just

34:53

after the one we just shouts california won't

34:55

let you charged the electric car while i got

34:57

rescued by constitutional you might

34:59

say i say that is like a week or two

35:01

ago rather be like of what is said as we're

35:03

going to move the fully electric cars but we're

35:05

going to have rolling blackouts so then

35:07

you're not if you're not ready for the amount

35:09

of let's a causal the road right now can you imagine

35:12

when that's all you can buy in california

35:15

this shows how right stupid this

35:17

whole thing really is

35:20

when they say rolling blackouts that's that

35:22

the next headline here california's potential

35:24

rolling blackouts or what are they

35:26

were affected this is the headline but they

35:28

they called a level three i'm

35:31

a energy emergency a nice are color coded

35:33

emergencies you know just the did see

35:35

to use to you know like like red lights

35:37

green lights discounted to scare people kind

35:39

liked one terror cove it's we've talked

35:42

about that before that the social programming on

35:44

that but would cease it was a level

35:46

three emergency apparently it has it

35:48

has reversed to the point where they're not

35:50

going to do these rolling blackouts the potential was hanging

35:52

for a couple days there but i know until

35:54

the until the temperature breaks has were told that it's

35:57

it's gonna be back and forth hopefully they

35:59

won't have to rolling blackouts understand that if

36:01

you're sitting on the side of the road chartier

36:03

tesla really blackout mean join

36:06

the energy go iowa or you're gonna in there

36:08

for another couple hours hopefully it's not nighttime

36:11

right so that that's what's happening right

36:13

now in california united states but let's

36:15

switch over now it's you something that you

36:17

know we've we've is really are bread butter on

36:19

the show it has been for last two years as

36:21

potential focus of the covert vaccination

36:24

and the mass in the lockdowns and that

36:26

started where we always seem to start it's something that

36:29

out she said this is the headline here in

36:31

this is a recent interview but i guess before he goes

36:33

out the door is going the latent zingers for

36:35

us to pick up as you slam for denies

36:37

school lockdowns are rapidly damage

36:39

kids no remorse so

36:41

he was asked if far he denied it if

36:43

if the school lockdowns if he any remorse

36:45

over those and east and i don't think they damage the kids

36:48

were fine no big deal let's move

36:50

on the best policy as policy

36:52

metre we've ever taken and i'm gonna go down in history

36:54

as one successes public health specialists

36:56

but that's not the case remember how

36:58

did we get there and how did they stay

37:00

locked down with report on that a lot but some

37:02

new emails released as really

37:05

shocking situation check this out

37:07

so emails california teachers union

37:09

ran oppositional research on

37:11

parents who wanted schools open data

37:14

headlines that were just revoir discovery

37:17

in court documents this is the california

37:19

teachers union they hired someone to

37:21

to run research nice is pretty i'm

37:24

is is pretty standard as high in on

37:26

the parents that are like looking into

37:28

these parents they're simply stating

37:30

what they want from their schools for their children

37:33

right and it was a group of parents who had

37:36

one a court case they sued the state of california

37:38

the san diego us is particularly it's

37:41

to reopen the schools there they won so much

37:43

later you know instead of saying hey you

37:45

know good job you one of the science or whatever

37:47

the california teachers association basically

37:50

ran his opposition research said we want to know who

37:52

these people are while how their funding that's

37:54

what does the ideological leanings

37:56

of the groups pushing for these reopening

37:59

their politics why did know everything about

38:01

them so that is how they are treated

38:03

for opening the schools against that guides and

38:06

why did they want the schools up an interesting wealth

38:08

some new have i came out showing actually

38:10

more more of the issues with those closings

38:12

in this is where looks like net nations report

38:15

cards two decades of growth wiped

38:17

out by two years of a pandemic knows

38:19

his math and reading scores have

38:21

just plummeted since is the lowest

38:24

in the interface with since the seventies why

38:26

what's interesting about this is that you

38:28

know lot of the experts education experts said

38:30

causes cause obviously going remote learnings gonna

38:32

have an issue i math because that intensive

38:34

that's where it's it's it's in the class

38:37

a room intensive learning but reading

38:39

they thought would be fine because it would be

38:41

a wonder one switch over didn't happen

38:43

same thing lot of plummeting the reading

38:46

categories as well and will be one

38:48

of the biggest issues here as far as

38:50

you said this irreparable damage the hidden thing

38:52

happens there's happens lot of research house

38:54

is a great resource article by the american

38:57

institute for economic research school

38:59

closures contra foxy school

39:01

closings will shorten lives

39:04

so it's not just the lockdowns normal

39:06

everyday people the school closings particularly

39:08

in it says closings here this is says highly resource

39:11

article is a everyone should go to

39:13

this if they need more information but it says here

39:15

information w e says research organization

39:17

estimated future earnings losses

39:20

of around forty four thousand for students the united

39:22

states in know study by mckinsey and company

39:24

researchers projected future income loss

39:27

is between forty nine forty sixty one thousand

39:29

per student due to learning losses both

39:31

of these studies suggest a lifetime

39:34

loss of over two trillion for

39:36

the current cohort of american children once

39:38

they get into get workforce goes on

39:40

to say a recent article by james

39:42

broke off from the got george mason university

39:44

and kept withdrew the from vanderbilt

39:47

user university found that each

39:49

loss of one trillion income will lead

39:51

to about nine thousand two hundred deaths

39:53

therefore the two trillion in

39:55

last future income for american

39:57

children's american be associated with over eating

40:00

the thousand early deaths in the

40:02

future and freely if it

40:04

finishes by saying this articles in leading

40:06

medical journal such as health affairs in jama

40:08

show little to no impact of the school shutdowns

40:10

i communities and query scratch

40:12

that's an inconvenient truth to a society

40:15

that place so much faith in shutdown proponents

40:17

at the picnic pandemics beginning and

40:20

doubt it might

40:22

be news to some people they have you been watching the

40:24

high wire and the research of the guess

40:26

that we've had on we've back

40:28

in november of twenty twenty all

40:31

the way back they were going to years

40:33

ago we had dare and beady eyed

40:35

and amazing researcher i'm at researcher time

40:37

with revolver news and he had sanctioned

40:40

of had research through revolver news

40:42

and this is what he had to say about that two years

40:44

ago listen to this or early

40:47

on when cove it came there's a lot

40:49

of talk about oh we need to

40:51

lock everything down because

40:53

the economy is not import

40:56

more important than one human life is

40:58

it will save one human life we need to shut

41:00

down the entire economy and

41:03

what this study does i think the most

41:06

general terms is general totally refutes

41:09

that frame of thinking that

41:11

in fact you cannot separate

41:14

lives

41:15

from livelihood but the most

41:17

important take home point here is

41:20

that it's not this trade off between

41:22

economy and lives there

41:25

very demonstrably connections

41:27

between economic

41:30

conditions and public health

41:32

conditions economists know

41:34

all too well that this connection

41:36

exists and they uniquely

41:39

ignored this connections in

41:41

order to support

41:43

this policy blunder

41:46

of lockdowns

41:48

wow mean i remember

41:51

we we've said these things so many times

41:53

throughout this band demo had so many toby

41:55

rodgers on multiple times talking

41:57

about the math behind is nothing

41:59

for the people this is weird right to equate

42:02

human lives to mass but

42:04

this is technically with you know

42:06

how these decisions are supposed to be made

42:08

you were supposed to look at all of the different

42:11

ramifications and potential outcomes

42:13

of what you're doing and none

42:15

of these people that look at some life

42:17

years loss or value of life ever

42:19

were allowed into the room to be a part

42:22

of the team discussing lockdowns

42:24

here in america which is crazy in the same thing in

42:26

england and all around the world these people were

42:28

locked out of the conversation and

42:30

now we're all gonna field is repercussions for

42:32

years to com

42:34

yeah it's fascinating how no one was

42:36

a during a cost benefit analysis from america

42:38

to the uk to any other country really

42:41

that's a fascinating piece on this but as

42:43

we move forward parents have

42:45

fought at every step of the way to

42:47

get their kids back in school the out these restrictions

42:49

not them and they've once a big fights lot

42:51

of my courts a were peeling back these

42:54

layers but there's still some layers on their so the

42:56

big thing obviously his school openings

42:58

know we're closures the kids are back in school but

43:00

they still have these restrictions on restrictions murmurs the

43:02

masks have been an issue with a

43:04

lot of learning disabilities of

43:06

the end and developmental disabilities

43:09

they're still disabilities look at these headlines i was shocked

43:11

to see this newark public school space mass

43:14

rules will stay in place but some parents are frustrated

43:16

some parents than here l a

43:19

heatwave playground asphalt

43:21

sizzles to one hundred and forty five degrees

43:23

in extreme heat waves parents demand school

43:25

shades and it there's a picture in this article

43:28

he can't really see it too well but it's it

43:30

it has of the kids out playing in the playground

43:32

they all have masks on and this is

43:34

happening across our of parts

43:36

of l a as as identified by this tweet

43:38

year as is l a row uprising and

43:40

twitter page today mar vista west

43:43

l a rec center cooling centers open across the

43:45

city for excessive heat kids forced to mass

43:47

inside playing sports at mayor

43:49

of alway in the los angeles city council should

43:51

be ashamed and then we have per

43:53

as secretary miguel card donate his secretary

43:56

of education united states someone

43:58

tweeted at him as well

43:59

the give him an earful he says here secretary

44:02

cardona you're sitting in a room with a bunch

44:04

of mask was older adults as is

44:06

your right now we please use your position

44:08

to speak up against the federal how their mass

44:10

mandates in the head start programs why

44:13

should four year old be condemned to another

44:15

year of mask and there he is sitting with that

44:17

joe by joe biden wife bunch of

44:19

other a higher government figures and

44:21

employment no matter where the only ones

44:23

that are in any sort of risk situation not

44:25

four year olds who have zero risk but

44:28

people not remedy wanna be a hypochondriac

44:30

that would be the place do it's you're not doing it

44:32

there than why our kids and allow

44:34

me to make this this point too because

44:36

i know we have a lot of viewers you know

44:38

living in california place with this is going on

44:41

i prayed nobody watching this show

44:43

is sending your children to schools where they're

44:45

having to wear masks i think that is unconscionable

44:49

they will never be the same again you are destroying

44:51

their spirits they're going to have issues

44:54

fearing the air they breathe for the rest their lives

44:56

and is you really feel like there's

44:58

no way out analysis of the i never thought i'd

45:00

say i think you should wear masks all day

45:02

the same time your kids are so you're thinking

45:04

about the fact of what your kid is going through because

45:07

no adult that i know is wearing a

45:09

mask or eight hours they were going to their

45:11

offices take you off hoppy your car take

45:13

it off your says is it taking it off

45:16

it's not fair it's not right

45:18

it's sick and demented and please

45:20

please don't let that happen your children's is

45:22

time to home school as time to get out and

45:24

susie lights decide to move out of california

45:27

if you have to but please don't

45:29

destroy your the soul

45:32

of your child simply because

45:34

you gotta get to work and has nothing to do about

45:36

it that's is not is used to be more interested

45:38

wounds use you when they have all sorts of other

45:40

health and psychological issues because

45:43

of what's been done here

45:45

it is not twenty twenty anymore we know a lot

45:47

more about this thing and it you know people

45:49

take one thing away from the segments to raise awareness

45:51

about this this is the head start

45:53

program in l a spare still masking

45:56

and this they're still following their in term guidelines

45:59

and this was with that too the about this is their mask

46:01

requirements to mitigate the spread of cover

46:03

ninety and head start programs it says here universe

46:05

i'm asking for all individuals two years

46:08

of age and older that means volunteers that

46:10

means teachers obviously kids this

46:12

is still going on so we're not

46:14

quite out of the woods yet but

46:16

worse were making a lot of progress especially in

46:18

the courts but we we still have to peel these

46:20

last mandates off this thing is over but

46:22

that is good for

46:24

the man absolutely so import

46:26

is so important and it's just is

46:28

clear now to me since you know the

46:30

cdc not even recommending the mask anymore

46:33

that this is social engineering they

46:36

want compliance human beings that will just

46:38

allow themselves to be tracked and ship or

46:40

whatever they need to do in the future if

46:42

you don't want their future it starts

46:44

with our children we've gotta make a difference

46:46

now jeffrey great reporting as always

46:49

thank you so much for all that information

46:52

will see you naked alright that'd

46:54

be like what you every jackson had to say they're definitely check

46:56

out the jackson report the high wire dot com

46:59

where he writes articles writes gets deeper into

47:01

the conversations that we are

47:03

having here having dunno i'm

47:05

sorry if sorry if you know if i'm hard on

47:07

you in the audience but i can't take it

47:09

anymore can't take it i wanted to see

47:11

you see these adults walking to see where

47:13

they're not actually wearing the mask but the kid is so

47:16

now the kid clearly has song

47:18

psychological problem developed by this

47:20

and that the parents are just rolling along with it like okay

47:22

you know i dunno sam he doesn't want to tickets massive

47:25

ups were just leaving it on him yeah gray

47:27

well gone maybe parenting

47:29

job are we got a few days

47:32

you know we've got to be engaged

47:34

in this world and that's what my concern is

47:36

a feel like you know we talked about so

47:38

much science and news that thank you for hang

47:40

in there we get into all the details

47:42

but i worry that we just see it going

47:45

by as though it's like on a television

47:47

and we're not fully engaged realizing

47:49

wait a minute this is the world i

47:51

live in yes this is

47:53

the one you live in right now we got

47:55

we are making a difference this show has

47:57

made a difference we are penetrating

48:00

but we're under massive pressure of censorship

48:02

and all sorts of other issues so i

48:04

can tell you there's no word on my team

48:06

step forgets any day what we're in the middle

48:09

of a what we're fighting force because we're having

48:11

a fight to get this information to you

48:13

every single day we work on it so

48:15

you know are not a bring this up because very

48:18

interesting headlines showing that they

48:20

were going to start seeing some headway in

48:22

this space here's this is the epoch times

48:24

judge ordered bouncy and other top

48:26

officials to produce records for big

48:29

sack government censorship lawsuits

48:32

i set it you know where we've been talking

48:34

about the zuckerberg admitting that the

48:36

f b i visited him to talk about things

48:38

that you know could be said politically but

48:40

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48:42

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48:44

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48:47

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are issue was we could get deep

48:56

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48:58

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49:00

i will tell you we have some very interesting

49:02

of boy us request that of com in

49:04

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49:06

going deeper but when we see headlines

49:09

like that here at the high wire

49:11

i will tell you we might ride on the back of this

49:13

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49:15

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49:18

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49:20

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52:05

well you know speaking of you

52:07

know this rak whole new world and

52:09

whether we're living in and were awake to it or what's

52:11

going on i did the big question

52:13

is are we really threw him right

52:15

have we made it road this

52:18

pandemic is it over what's gonna

52:20

happen this winter us to grow wondering what's

52:22

going on there monkey pox use of

52:24

disappears is a polio story floating

52:26

out there is like ms wise like you know

52:28

this is the these globalist just keep

52:30

rolling lines of the wanted to see where they can host

52:33

or none of us where is your food

52:35

and suddenly were locked back into mass

52:38

formation and following each

52:40

other and some sort of arbitrary line

52:42

we're being told to follow and following through

52:44

with crazy rituals like wearing masks that

52:46

we know don't do anything and bask in our

52:48

children are sending them off the school

52:50

of course want to talk about mass in the formation

52:53

really talking about one person and

52:55

as much he has desmond the psychologists

52:58

out of belgium well he made

53:00

his way into america miraculously

53:02

he's been making tour around the news stations

53:05

ah were cited is here this is what is

53:07

look like on part of that trip we

53:09

are honored to have join us themselves

53:11

in academic called mathias is matt

53:14

three hundred have a special guess as to

53:16

dr miller tie assessment the books

53:18

a best seller the psychology of a child

53:20

terrorism professor does when you have

53:23

erupted , the the

53:25

, for your work

53:27

on what is called mass formation

53:30

so i would have years ago i think this would have been

53:32

considered a kind of esoteric academic

53:34

theory you know relevant to

53:36

your specific study but not really relevant

53:38

society that we live in an all of sudden so

53:41

perfectly describes with the rest

53:43

of us

53:44

have been watching during the grown a crisis

53:46

of people started to believe both

53:49

into analysis that in many respects was

53:51

blatantly romance utterly absurd smash

53:53

commission has existed as long as mankind exists

53:56

the mother masses of live

53:58

in a rather actually say

53:59

what makes them extremely susceptible

54:02

i'm extremely vulnerable for all

54:05

kinds of from ,

54:07

ago received many messages of people who

54:10

always as ones they they heard my

54:12

theory and they started to started

54:15

why they bother to than that of the for a certain

54:17

time to important to ride my book if

54:19

you understand the knickers we must make you

54:21

will understand what you have to do no

54:24

matter what happens continue

54:27

to speak out even if because of the

54:29

internet and you will have to speak out in a different

54:31

race pretty to continue different

54:33

speak as speak matter what happens

54:38

alright well his book is called the psychology

54:41

of to tell attorneys and by mathias

54:44

desmond is my honor and pleasure

54:46

to be joined here in studio by

54:48

mathias thank you so much

54:50

for being here how thank you for obviously

54:53

, had a very in depth a discussion

54:55

of a few months ago rb book was

54:57

on his way out to discuss this

55:00

idea of mass formation which

55:02

sort of swept swept world

55:04

we talked about it then and i don't really want to sort

55:07

to get caught up in rehashing

55:09

all in that ah the first one

55:11

thank you for for being here and

55:14

down and making the trip and

55:16

sort of continuing to speak out

55:19

with your thoughts south ensure that it's

55:21

a ensure to be really grateful

55:23

that you invite of michigan doesn't

55:26

start right here you know coming into america

55:29

ah i'm is there a difference when

55:31

you think of this nation compared to belgium

55:33

where you been living throughout this panda

55:36

you mean in terms of

55:38

life life years it's into the of

55:40

on the psychology of humanitarian

55:43

ecology different yes

55:48

to be honest i

55:50

i think that don't people are more confirm

55:53

as to than american people

55:54

the whole the the

55:57

percentage of people who took the job was extremely

55:59

high

55:59

maybe that has

56:02

to do with a factor

56:03

no are extremely high levels of

56:06

or psychological problems in belgium

56:09

i think the belgium is a country with the highest percentage

56:12

of impressed me really oh

56:14

yes and

56:16

that could have to do with the fact that or that

56:18

could the be one the

56:21

fact that plays a role

56:24

the fact that may be more people fall prey to

56:26

what i go mathematician because yes

56:29

a the more people feel socially the

56:33

more people feel psychologically

56:37

the gospel are problematic position the

56:40

, usually are vulnerable to them

56:42

as much you could play at all but actually i

56:44

don't know right and i don't i and i'm

56:46

not sure if this book book

56:49

, what i found interesting

56:51

about it is is not just about not of

56:54

this cove in prices we'd been

56:56

to i found myself reflecting on

56:58

my own personal interactions with

57:01

my personal my children

57:03

are a really is an exploration

57:05

in i think what moves us what

57:08

drives what moves it's absolutely

57:10

fantastic engaging therefore

57:13

pillars essentially arm

57:15

that have to have happened to society

57:17

to make us would vulnerable

57:19

to mass formation can you just sort of mass

57:22

us through that very quickly as

57:25

yeah that when it may be first in a nutshell what

57:27

nasa mission is as it's a specific kind

57:29

of group are making which has a specific effect

57:31

of the level of individual mental functioning and

57:34

for instance at makes people

57:36

ironically and capable of taking a critical

57:38

distance matter

57:40

how of certain

57:46

com

57:50

a radical the willing to sacrifice everything

57:53

that was important to them before

57:55

the most dot is it a little bit of

57:57

most me is that it makes people

57:59

i agree a lot of tournaments voices

58:02

do the extent in the of the

58:05

much gone starting to go through something

58:07

that wasn't the people that do not go along with a that's

58:09

a nutshell

58:10

the terminology of

58:13

the machinations he talk by the book

58:16

all the times throughout history this has happened stalin's

58:18

hitler you know

58:23

there are times

58:27

, i also have a very very

58:29

scales will go have a small school a few

58:31

women with the new to this is elaine in

58:34

indeed it is massive mission

58:36

is almost maxed for the modern masters

58:38

one of the same as that is there are important

58:41

differences between the did this between the

58:43

amazing this typical example

58:45

of group permission to emerges when

58:48

the population isn't a very specific states

58:50

and the the first and most crucial condition

58:52

is that it has to be many people who feel this

58:54

gonna get fucked from the natural social

58:56

and via

58:57

and once me from has connected they will

58:59

typically starters travel

59:01

with a lack of meaning making a life and

59:04

, they are disconnected and meaning

59:07

making

59:13

owning their frustration integration

59:16

look nice anxiety frustration aggression

59:19

that

59:20

the not connected to a mental representation or

59:23

and simpler

59:27

the promotion anxious frustrated and aggressive

59:29

without knowing what this

59:33

is plenty of are some interesting

59:36

because people have out of control

59:38

they have the feeling of they cannot control their anxiety

59:41

and have the feeling

59:42

that they cannot

59:44

they did anxiety out to an option to their

59:46

frustration that goes out to an object because

59:48

they don't know what they feel so

59:50

, meaning that all this frustration

59:53

of the cushion piles up in their psychological

59:55

system and consulting with a very

59:58

versus pension

59:59

and investing

1:00:01

something typically typical might have

1:00:04

that

1:00:08

enter

1:00:10

the same time reason thing

1:00:12

providing a strategy to do with an object

1:00:14

of anxiety for instance

1:00:16

the logged on sort of corona voters

1:00:18

the transporter which is the crusades for

1:00:20

the seller scenes who have a fight in a the

1:00:23

great of christ on the does

1:00:25

conditions such a narrative is distributing

1:00:28

something very specific might have all

1:00:30

this free floating anxiety

1:00:35

the people might be willing revenue

1:00:38

documenting object of absolutely no

1:00:40

matter how absurd the strategy is simply

1:00:43

because in this way people

1:00:45

experience

1:00:47

them for mother

1:00:49

control over didn't either

1:00:51

they they now know what you're anxious

1:00:53

for and also very important the

1:00:55

also know have an option which

1:00:58

they can direct their frustration and aggression

1:01:01

and there's a first up the do that leads

1:01:03

to a specific psychological

1:01:05

advantage

1:01:07

the birthplace of the effect of level and

1:01:09

then a second place it also seems

1:01:11

to tackle

1:01:12

the root cause of the problems namely

1:01:15

this first condition which is

1:01:17

the social isolation the loneliness

1:01:19

still because all these people participate

1:01:22

in a strategy to do but the object of anxiety

1:01:24

together right they have

1:01:26

the feeding the their fights heroic collective battle

1:01:28

with the object of inside

1:01:29

and if you're gonna get

1:01:31

milan

1:01:33

you're going into detail the big problem

1:01:36

is that the connection is never

1:01:38

a connection between individuals always

1:01:41

, masses are immersed as

1:01:43

a group that is formed because every

1:01:45

individual separately

1:01:47

comment

1:01:48

the collective to collect my you

1:01:50

so basically i'm lonely

1:01:53

i start having start sense of meaninglessness

1:01:55

of meaninglessness life i'm doing the job i hate life

1:01:58

you know my family's doesn't care

1:01:59

about me i'm working too hard

1:02:02

i'm now have anxiety have a

1:02:04

feeling that of attention all the time

1:02:07

but i don't know what actually i'm angry oh

1:02:09

you know and was treating anger i don't know where to focus

1:02:11

energy on was coming from the someone

1:02:13

comes along as as we all have a single a problem

1:02:15

we need to do with here's the solution you ought

1:02:17

the lockdown get back to the go through these rituals

1:02:20

as and anyone that doesn't go along with

1:02:22

that is is the problem and focus on

1:02:24

them it's and so suddenly imo in

1:02:26

a group we all have a common missions and those

1:02:28

not on this mission will attack that smaller

1:02:30

group and now i have a purpose in life essentially all

1:02:33

problem solve all problems all seemingly right

1:02:35

seemingly else except that as we discussed

1:02:37

the last time i'm not really

1:02:39

getting social connectedness are not in

1:02:41

in a giant parties in fact this time were

1:02:43

isolated but i'm online

1:02:45

and i've been told that i'm a part

1:02:48

of a greater whole with as creating an important

1:02:50

functions going to save the world and as mess amazing

1:02:53

the functional channeling all

1:02:55

this recent aggression or something

1:02:57

the

1:02:59

it will constantly need new

1:03:02

objects of anxiety new obstacles

1:03:04

have to be destroyed and shut up

1:03:06

and get to that because i think what's interesting

1:03:09

is his books written you know as you said

1:03:11

i think you start the idea of in two thousand and seventeen

1:03:14

right and ultimately finish

1:03:16

it in the middle of the pandemic and really sets

1:03:18

and in some ways i guess you

1:03:20

know it must have been

1:03:22

i don't know ironic or prophetic

1:03:25

that you had thought i should write about this mask

1:03:27

for mason idea and in found yourself

1:03:29

in the middle of probably the largest

1:03:31

mass formation event in the history of mental

1:03:33

first worldwide mes amis in

1:03:36

history would you say you are you an expert

1:03:38

on mass formation prior

1:03:40

to the pandemic i'm writing this book find lectured

1:03:42

about it okay my my focus of

1:03:45

the focus of my academic or a lot of art has

1:03:47

always been individual psychology but

1:03:51

well

1:03:54

during my phd i focused

1:03:57

home methodological problems and scientific

1:03:59

research

1:04:00

four and two thousand and five

1:04:02

when i made my phd and became clear that have

1:04:04

to face a five percent of academic

1:04:07

research papers from right

1:04:09

completely wrong since i started to study

1:04:11

doesn't sort of the study

1:04:13

the mathematical basis of the problems

1:04:15

and i explain them in an extra three fungible

1:04:17

unclear when a little book i showed why

1:04:20

most research research methods they

1:04:22

possibly can lead to voted results

1:04:24

in such a simple invincible way

1:04:27

but i thought

1:04:28

everyone that open his eyes

1:04:30

but he didn't they became angry that so you're

1:04:32

talking about this phenomenon we've discussed on her

1:04:34

show a lot which did almost the

1:04:37

editor of almost every major medical

1:04:39

journal i'm in the world

1:04:41

has come out in one way or another saying

1:04:44

we can't repeat the scientific

1:04:46

experiments that were said to from the conclusions

1:04:48

you know some say fifty percent of those

1:04:51

that we attempted to repeat using different sizes

1:04:53

of the same methodology didn't come up with the same results

1:04:55

are as high as eighty five percent

1:04:57

of see note especially when you get the pharmaceutical

1:05:00

product and doing their own studies against

1:05:02

it becomes very fallible in

1:05:04

in it's ability be repeated and so

1:05:07

we start recognizing that you can't trust in

1:05:09

these a major statements by major

1:05:11

editors of these journals say have you

1:05:13

actually can't trust the peer reviewed

1:05:15

science that we've been publishing because

1:05:17

it is too easy for it

1:05:19

to somehow be manipulated haven't they

1:05:22

don't state what the cause necessarily

1:05:24

is with this is sort of become a focus of yours

1:05:26

yes yes me because i noticed that no

1:05:29

matter how

1:05:30

clearly you explain

1:05:32

what the problems with the research methods or the

1:05:35

of for form for most researchers

1:05:37

it just doesn't make a difference they conceal new

1:05:39

who believe in and in and

1:05:41

and what they believe than before and that was

1:05:44

the moment when i started to become interested in must psychology

1:05:46

because had the feeling that this

1:05:48

phenomenon of this radical

1:05:50

blindness yeah for for for the absurdity

1:05:53

of of what the someone believes in guns

1:05:57

not really be explained on the basis of in the

1:05:59

psychological mechanisms as robin on the basis

1:06:02

of psychology and massacre

1:06:04

that they're gonna explain it

1:06:06

i had a very specific i'll

1:06:09

, revelation to this myself when we share it with

1:06:11

you early on i'm i've

1:06:13

made this documentary vast which was about

1:06:15

the mmr vaccine in this study

1:06:18

at the cdc looking at does it cause autism

1:06:20

that was early two thousand and two thousand for the

1:06:22

study was done because doctor andrew wakefield

1:06:25

in england had made this accusation

1:06:27

that the mmr appeared to be somehow causally

1:06:29

related to the rise in

1:06:31

autism epidemic as point

1:06:34

point president early two thousand

1:06:36

and seventeen and arm i

1:06:38

got a call from robert kennedy jr

1:06:41

that he'd been invited to a meeting at the national

1:06:43

institute of health so we

1:06:45

got together and laid out what we

1:06:47

thought were all the problems with the vaccine program

1:06:50

that and we're gonna have the opportunity

1:06:52

to speak to francis collins her the nih

1:06:55

tony found sheath i can remember all

1:06:57

the news with heads of autism development all

1:06:59

of the did that sort of the science body

1:07:01

about ten people arm to express

1:07:03

our concerns in a representative from donald trump's

1:07:07

cabinet was there to oversee answer

1:07:09

moderate this discussion and

1:07:12

okay so we laid out to major

1:07:14

tenants number one being ah

1:07:17

the biggest issue was we can't find

1:07:19

a single double

1:07:21

blind placebo studies

1:07:23

performed on any of the childhood vaccines

1:07:26

that are in our childhood vaccines program

1:07:28

we can find a single one of those studies to

1:07:31

establish safety prior to lessons

1:07:33

heard of the vaccine simple question

1:07:35

mark we not doing proper

1:07:38

randomized controlled studies using a placebo

1:07:40

for vaccinations or are you

1:07:42

just hiding that information from the public as

1:07:45

it started out with it for some guy the under the table

1:07:47

says of course we're doing double

1:07:49

blind placebo studies you know that's

1:07:51

how science has done is just since

1:07:53

earlier face trials than we publish for the

1:07:55

public and so are are

1:07:57

a few jr said great that's why we're here this

1:08:00

the national institute of health all the archives

1:08:02

for that information here i'd love to go back

1:08:04

to the people that are question this is sheldon the evidence

1:08:06

that you know says it exists will wait as

1:08:08

long as it takes and then there's a stylus

1:08:10

i mean one of the most likely is incredible

1:08:13

from pauses i've ever seen and then tony

1:08:15

bout he said we don't do double blind

1:08:17

placebo studies because would be unethical into

1:08:20

a whole conversation shifted and then phrases councils

1:08:22

that's right jumps on his bandwagon so

1:08:24

that's right and then so so

1:08:26

they ended up admitting that they don't do any

1:08:28

double blind placebo studies because

1:08:31

as they see it in into your points

1:08:33

they have such a strong group bleed that

1:08:35

vaccines are great and that even

1:08:37

a brand new vaccine being entered into

1:08:39

the population and to have

1:08:41

a placebo group that isn't getting this

1:08:43

great life says it saving measure that's never

1:08:45

been tested to deny them access

1:08:48

to their product in their minds would

1:08:50

be ethically reprehensible okay

1:08:52

nsc we took it one step further we said

1:08:55

ok armed well then how

1:08:57

about a retrospective state i get

1:08:59

it prospectively meanings before

1:09:01

the product of least you don't you don't want

1:09:04

anyone to be denied the products but after

1:09:06

it's been released there's certainly plenty of anti

1:09:08

boxes or whatever you wanna call it in your databases

1:09:11

snacks and be studied we can look at these

1:09:13

studies into just simply compare

1:09:15

the vaccine to the and vaccinated to has higher

1:09:17

rates of kids who has higher rates of autism as

1:09:19

high rates of diabetes in all these issues

1:09:22

that are are plaguing our country if

1:09:24

you want to shut me up and robert downey

1:09:26

jr any one that's on this topic simply

1:09:28

do the most obvious that he known to man compare

1:09:30

the vaccine to the boxes and show us

1:09:33

looks to vaccinate live longer they're healthy

1:09:35

or less kids are all these other issues you know the

1:09:37

said to us

1:09:38

we can't figure out a way to do that

1:09:41

i was looking across the table at

1:09:43

the greatest body of scientists gathered

1:09:46

at the most important research institute

1:09:48

in the world and you to

1:09:51

figure out how to compare one group to another

1:09:53

and as we ask more questions i

1:09:55

went back to my wife in in

1:09:57

i hadn't i knew nothing about mass formation

1:09:59

but he said

1:10:01

for the most part these people

1:10:03

aren't evil never is something

1:10:06

and i described it as is almost

1:10:08

like an innate self protective

1:10:10

mechanism that keeps them

1:10:12

from opening the most obvious norris

1:10:15

to a third grader where they would see the problem

1:10:17

in science they don't even see that

1:10:19

door it's doesn't exist or something

1:10:21

in them sticks his from asking the

1:10:24

appropriate questions that would on earth

1:10:26

their belief in their thoughts system that they

1:10:28

are saving the world with his products

1:10:31

i , i would hold withdrawl

1:10:33

except one person i said the my wife and i got

1:10:35

back except this one guy sitting across

1:10:37

from me who i didn't really know at the time and

1:10:39

that he bowed css i believe this guy's evil

1:10:42

i'd dig you know damn well what's going on you are

1:10:44

but that was my experience of and

1:10:46

it

1:10:48

known as a kind of group ideological

1:10:51

blindness a thing yet blindness up

1:10:53

yet the group

1:10:54

the reason the good of of an ideology

1:10:56

that shares and ideology and that the

1:10:59

became i'm pretty blind because of that ideology

1:11:02

know this is what's fascinating i think about your

1:11:04

book because he talk about you

1:11:07

, where we serve have the separation

1:11:09

we start out with our lack of

1:11:12

you know science or a mine

1:11:14

most humidity seems a started a religious

1:11:17

space a belief in something big themselves

1:11:19

difference causes three different gods

1:11:21

of these things with is a spiritual relationship

1:11:23

and that god is usually vengeful keeps

1:11:26

us in control if we step out of line

1:11:28

then we will be smite it or whatever

1:11:30

you know it is i'm i'm using my own words not

1:11:33

yours but essentially there's this the

1:11:35

a logical ah construct

1:11:38

that controls humanity and then

1:11:40

along comes what you describe leaders the mechanistic

1:11:42

society or the science rights know

1:11:44

there's a logic now we can be freed

1:11:47

of his mythological fear that scott

1:11:49

us all bound up but

1:11:51

now we can be logical arm

1:11:54

tell me about that like how did that stored

1:11:57

and did it free us

1:12:00

well and the

1:12:04

worse

1:12:06

scientific discourse was a kind of a discourse through

1:12:08

which the a minority went against the

1:12:10

dominant discursive

1:12:12

the dominant been as or smears within the

1:12:14

magician likes my mother courage

1:12:16

and i think yep and

1:12:19

the first place that you result

1:12:23

i think i am i mean science

1:12:25

represented the kind of open mindedness

1:12:27

the kind of the

1:12:30

positioning which people

1:12:33

started to listen to do to to nature

1:12:35

to the phenomena up to reality around

1:12:37

them in a new way without being blinded

1:12:40

by dot muslims and then the and all kinds

1:12:42

of prejudice with after a while because

1:12:45

of its successes signs became a dominant

1:12:47

this course itself and that's where the moment

1:12:49

when they got river

1:12:51

uk always the case has a so once

1:12:53

when it was the minority it was healthy

1:12:55

of once it becomes the majority discourse

1:12:58

of course

1:12:59

wonder why why is that no one's a discourse

1:13:02

starts to get a grip on the

1:13:04

majority of the people it does this course

1:13:06

that

1:13:10

to make a profit of are thought to be successful

1:13:12

at the level of careers that's the logical or to

1:13:14

these as as soon as the certain discourses

1:13:17

shared by or is believes in by

1:13:19

the majority of the people everyone

1:13:21

who wants to manipulate or who wants to

1:13:24

have a grip on the majority of the people

1:13:26

will exactly use that discourse

1:13:28

think about all the commercial that say

1:13:31

a scientific research

1:13:33

showed that

1:13:34

this brother gave us and of doctor say

1:13:36

you should use this is the

1:13:38

consensus of your says

1:13:41

blah blah the or or earth and the academical

1:13:43

to just the more academic paper to

1:13:45

publish them to hide

1:13:47

the chance that you will have a be successful

1:13:50

the level of of your academic career that are all

1:13:52

examples that show does

1:13:55

the the more successful

1:13:58

discourse isn't a society the it a chance

1:14:00

that it gets pervert than that it's and that it loses

1:14:03

it's qualities of truth speech and

1:14:05

that is what happens with science science

1:14:07

changed from through speech and the beginning

1:14:10

the change into a

1:14:12

certain

1:14:13

ideology it's good to go perverted

1:14:15

lost it's qualities of through speech and

1:14:17

in the as it was a purely ideological

1:14:20

mother

1:14:21

the points

1:14:23

what know is no longer it today

1:14:26

is no longer

1:14:27

kind of open minded there's

1:14:29

no science starts from dogmatic

1:14:31

beliefs he didn't die your universe

1:14:33

or scientific ideology starts from the

1:14:36

my the goodies the entire universe is

1:14:38

immaterial phenomenon is a set of

1:14:40

elementary particles and all these particles

1:14:42

interact with each other according to the laws of mechanics

1:14:45

and his entire universe machine can

1:14:47

be perfectly rational he understood and

1:14:49

that's why are we need experts

1:14:51

to the society the people who have

1:14:54

this

1:14:55

the rational understanding of the machinery

1:14:58

of the universe and of society to lead

1:15:00

us we do not think leaders ethically elected sport

1:15:03

though you become our gods right yeah you now

1:15:05

or the all knowing and i no longer

1:15:07

challenger and but just as they didn't sounds the religion

1:15:09

of my priest held it now you hold

1:15:11

the truth of have world in the cosmos i

1:15:14

bow down to that and it really is this

1:15:16

would just shifted to from one controlling god

1:15:18

of to another the other the

1:15:20

files declared the throne of got empty both very

1:15:22

soon mans think that has thrown himself

1:15:25

as self bridges

1:15:28

exist lemons take it to this

1:15:30

moment then where is it

1:15:33

is it at the moment that it becomes

1:15:35

the majority thinking process is

1:15:37

it that it it's weird

1:15:39

to see it is it but let's say science news

1:15:42

in this this this freethinking

1:15:44

ability to ask questions to delineate

1:15:46

by asking appropriate questions to triangulate

1:15:48

the actual truth that now states

1:15:50

has free because we're in control of it seems perfectly

1:15:53

healthy is it at the moment

1:15:55

that because the majority because he says now controls

1:15:57

people's is it the realization of the power

1:15:59

that it now holds that ends

1:16:02

up be the sort of i'm

1:16:04

incriminating factor or is

1:16:06

it the love of having that

1:16:09

majority that it fears losing that and

1:16:11

and lose it you know you know to mean is

1:16:13

it is recognizing oh my god the masses

1:16:15

are now with us we have power

1:16:18

here to a certain extent definitely

1:16:20

the a certain extent that it it can lead to power

1:16:23

and at the same time it

1:16:25

it go it can it can give you power it

1:16:27

can give you money the other two fuckers are always

1:16:29

free robot in the end i think it's for something

1:16:32

else really think that the that the

1:16:34

real factor at play is ,

1:16:37

a

1:16:38

the fact that people

1:16:42

fear uncertainty

1:16:44

everyone or the human being the

1:16:47

rebels

1:16:48

with a profound uncertainty in life

1:16:51

we always thing that human beings didn't

1:16:53

differ from animals because they know

1:16:55

more because they have more knowledge but

1:16:57

actually rather the opposite is true a

1:16:59

human being distinguishes itself

1:17:02

from another more because it's constantly

1:17:05

confronted with a lack of knowledge

1:17:08

of human being as possibly confronted with

1:17:10

questions if cannot answer

1:17:12

what is the meaning of my life know what

1:17:14

will happen after i die

1:17:16

the other love me or not what

1:17:19

do i mean for someone else the human i

1:17:21

was human existence the was

1:17:23

constantly

1:17:24

around something that his mind cannot

1:17:27

grass

1:17:27

the animals don't suffer from that and simply because

1:17:30

the the animal mental

1:17:33

function based

1:17:35

on sign systems find systems

1:17:38

in which each time refers to

1:17:40

one thing there's no doctor

1:17:43

whether the first described means hunger describing

1:17:45

is dangerous this posture means aggression

1:17:49

, so on and a human being that

1:17:51

the human mind mind

1:17:54

based on language and in language

1:17:56

the so called language signs do

1:17:59

not refer there are no

1:18:01

other signs this worth referred to

1:18:03

another as if you want to know what wonder which means

1:18:06

you need other words but these other words

1:18:09

be to be defined again by other words and you always

1:18:11

like a virgin do ,

1:18:13

can make sure what all the rest of the words mean and

1:18:16

that's why why human mind

1:18:18

is constantly on so uncertain

1:18:20

and debts for most people that is extremely

1:18:22

painful as extremely painful was

1:18:25

perpetual insecurities there's

1:18:27

an official oh yes absolutely and it's extremely

1:18:29

painful things are important

1:18:32

a with respect to the important issues of issues

1:18:34

of life for instance i don't have enough love of and other

1:18:37

level of dying at the level of i'm

1:18:40

a what a

1:18:42

i would existence means and so on and

1:18:44

that's why

1:18:45

you can

1:18:46

the cpu positions to was this fundamental uncertainty

1:18:49

or you can the can make

1:18:51

you anxious because you you you don't know

1:18:53

what to do when like you

1:18:56

, are afraid of rest of

1:18:58

the rest of life or

1:19:02

there's uncertainty

1:19:04

the be

1:19:05

you can recognize it and there's a certain

1:19:08

thirty basis and seventy

1:19:10

precondition for your existence as

1:19:12

a human being that case you

1:19:15

make the following reasoning you just

1:19:17

say it is exactly because

1:19:19

nobody answer and because

1:19:21

nobody can be certain

1:19:24

about the questions to to get the

1:19:26

answer to the great questions of like

1:19:28

that i have the right

1:19:30

and to duty

1:19:31

the answer the questions myself with only

1:19:34

one

1:19:34

you can choose and determine our

1:19:37

have to live my life is the

1:19:40

only thing i have to do is have to

1:19:43

make sure today

1:19:44

they loyal to certain ethical principles

1:19:46

before the rest i have to make the decisions in

1:19:48

life i have to live my own life

1:19:50

so that the due to two possibilities individual

1:19:53

either the individual and recognize

1:19:55

your head you create into the space

1:19:58

where knowledge is not good you

1:20:00

and he enters into that you know i think we've all

1:20:02

experienced as if you're good in any profession

1:20:04

remember like being in filmmaking the

1:20:06

more tallied the more talent

1:20:08

had the more work i got the more i did

1:20:11

the more i saw was capable and film

1:20:13

and the more as intimidated by what

1:20:15

then was possible the more you have knowledge

1:20:18

the more your knowledge is of how much you don't know

1:20:20

you're right it needs and eat that sissoko

1:20:23

so great assists and didn't include

1:20:25

exactly that the more i know the more i realize

1:20:28

that i don't know right that's when of that's

1:20:30

wisdom it is no is know if is

1:20:32

not debilitating get that we

1:20:34

we want to have been through and i've always

1:20:37

said i don't know if it's accurate but my belief

1:20:39

is been dead hyper

1:20:41

intelligent people that are incredibly intelligent

1:20:44

i've always thought have a greater propensity

1:20:46

go crazy because

1:20:48

they in

1:20:50

because it comes out the chaos and life certainly

1:20:53

i can find a mathematical function

1:20:55

and truth that irons out they

1:20:57

chaos that's all around me your average person

1:21:00

this is gives a d just accepts you know

1:21:02

livestock move on it out a meme

1:21:05

is it happens and and but

1:21:08

super and tells people are always working

1:21:10

at tried to give in order to things

1:21:12

arm and i think ultimately you will fail

1:21:15

or the hills and fail and they see through to

1:21:17

conventions the social conventions and that's

1:21:19

why they have only two options i think

1:21:21

either they reinvent either

1:21:23

convention or they

1:21:26

just fetish because i never find

1:21:28

a way to live their

1:21:30

lives to but i think that's did

1:21:33

the to the point is that

1:21:34

there's uncertainty

1:21:38

many people

1:21:41

i fully formed from businessmen many people

1:21:44

the

1:21:45

by and to have a common know this

1:21:47

an ideology that a shipment by many people

1:21:50

just to not be confronted with

1:21:52

is uncertainty i think and that's why they are

1:21:54

so right in such as so

1:21:56

that because they're so stubbornly sticking

1:21:59

to to a certain

1:21:59

narrative that is that a shared by by by

1:22:02

degree

1:22:03

the

1:22:05

while in many cases are that narrative

1:22:07

as it is is is is utterly absurd never

1:22:10

did it properly study and as does the

1:22:12

essence of authoritarian

1:22:14

that isn't when you see it

1:22:16

the people start to become completely

1:22:18

incapable of accepting

1:22:21

the there is certain uncertainty in life they

1:22:23

want one answer you want to

1:22:25

know the answer and properly couldn't leave the top political

1:22:27

leaders provided answer said totally

1:22:29

agree absolutely provide provide your answer

1:22:32

dot or you have insert our

1:22:34

beliefs is on and four years wonder same you

1:22:36

started out with a sense of meaninglessness

1:22:39

the more your knowledge left you you know

1:22:41

all alone in in in in finding that

1:22:43

there was little even more you didn't know i want

1:22:46

to just stop this right now go ahead insert

1:22:48

for me my meaning of

1:22:50

what my purposes here speak and

1:22:52

and let it be would though total group because

1:22:54

the more people involved in it the more true it must

1:22:56

be up and

1:22:59

though

1:23:01

when we you know when

1:23:03

we look at service ideology what i thought was

1:23:06

interesting is this idea that science

1:23:08

ultimately runs into this problem

1:23:10

we get in the quantum science and i think everybody

1:23:12

has a sense now that's the basic concept

1:23:15

of quantum science is the scientists

1:23:17

is it's emphasis is is changing

1:23:20

the results simply by

1:23:22

the focus by the scientist on on the

1:23:24

problem at hand that they're singular

1:23:26

involvement you give you have many beautiful

1:23:28

examples you know that

1:23:31

we're affecting our environment even clock

1:23:33

you know arms all and up start swinging

1:23:35

is some sort of unison that the

1:23:38

clocks change each other and as not even

1:23:40

a bought a thinking process

1:23:42

somehow the scientists by observing

1:23:45

that observation is potentially

1:23:47

affecting the results of ,

1:23:49

they're looking at arm arm

1:23:52

know why in

1:23:54

a moment where that is so clearly

1:23:56

the case is being swept under

1:23:59

the rug by side that the you it was the

1:24:01

hide that dirty secret

1:24:03

which anyone does look at it seems

1:24:05

to know as you said if you truly take

1:24:07

a science to the end you're left in a

1:24:09

very uncomfortable for yes i think that science

1:24:11

is popular

1:24:12

as long

1:24:13

the

1:24:15

the white people the illusion that it's will bring

1:24:17

certainty that it will earn

1:24:19

a bring a rational control but

1:24:21

real science doesn't drink certainty real

1:24:24

science doesn't tell you that

1:24:26

you rational understanding will be capable

1:24:29

of of explaining the mysteries of life

1:24:31

and that a to allow you to control

1:24:33

reality and to do to to reshape

1:24:36

as a the world and such a

1:24:38

way that there will be no suffering and even

1:24:40

or dying anymore know what the real science

1:24:43

all seminal scientists learned

1:24:45

us that our russian understanding is

1:24:47

extremely limited that's what

1:24:49

they often earth teach those

1:24:52

that rational i'm standing can grasp a

1:24:54

little bit

1:24:55

allow me to understand certain aspects of the

1:24:57

world but it's very soon if you

1:24:59

follow your nationality

1:25:02

and are loyal readers you very soon will arrive

1:25:04

at the point at the limit of nationality and

1:25:07

that's what's new signs learners and that's where

1:25:09

most people are not interested anymore

1:25:11

and signs most people don't want to know that because

1:25:14

what they want is they illusion that there

1:25:16

is someone who knows everything and that we

1:25:18

once were look everything that this

1:25:21

big uncertainty of life which

1:25:24

is such a challenge for the be human every human

1:25:26

being doesn't exist that's what

1:25:28

science as the scientific

1:25:31

ideology that the illusions

1:25:33

the scientific ideology seats like that

1:25:35

that that that one

1:25:37

day there will be no uncertain to anymore

1:25:40

that everything can be explained in mathematical terms

1:25:42

and as you're allowed to go to sleep now

1:25:44

the field is ultimately

1:25:47

you know virgin goal the idea

1:25:50

that to set ourselves free

1:25:52

from dogma of the world's science

1:25:54

will set us free that investigation

1:25:56

the science took the so deep that we realized

1:25:59

oh my god i'm

1:25:59

now affecting everything i'm looking at

1:26:02

therefore i can't get to is solid foundational

1:26:04

principle it's true because depending

1:26:06

on your personality and the observer you're

1:26:09

gonna effect what you're seeing is

1:26:11

almost as that they just said okay let's not tell

1:26:13

the world that they're looking to us now

1:26:15

to had the dog when the nets when it becomes a dog

1:26:17

months now it becomes just trust

1:26:19

us we do have the answers

1:26:21

to the world as as tony bouncy said

1:26:24

the tax on be quite frankly are

1:26:26

attacks on science

1:26:28

there's no question to be had here

1:26:31

literally making himself a mythical

1:26:33

fix dot fixture in

1:26:35

this new dogmatic and structure

1:26:38

not exactly and that's how science

1:26:41

the lapses into the

1:26:43

opposite of what it originally was

1:26:46

into a belief system they

1:26:48

shouldn't be questioned anymore right while

1:26:50

science in the beginning

1:26:52

was

1:26:53

just

1:26:54

open mindedness and the

1:26:58

got unseated everything could be question

1:27:00

that was the origin of science and

1:27:03

and now it's it became radical dot

1:27:05

the is reserved for some proof

1:27:07

of that i had a great debate years ago

1:27:10

when i was sort of firsts discussing

1:27:12

this as on a radio show with a a a guy

1:27:14

who had a science background and he was railing

1:27:16

at the idea that donald trump

1:27:18

had offered at that time ah

1:27:21

roberts jr the opportunity to

1:27:23

run a vaccine safety commission that

1:27:26

robert is you was for have had a science group

1:27:28

to started investigating the science behind

1:27:30

vaccination this guy everyone's skied laid

1:27:32

out a lot of fact he knew his science and

1:27:35

i said let me understand your

1:27:37

ears incredibly infuriated

1:27:40

right now that robert kennedy jr

1:27:42

would run in this this science

1:27:45

body arm is that because

1:27:47

you have some believe that because he

1:27:49

appears have appears bias based on

1:27:51

what he said that said

1:27:53

that will influence the science being

1:27:56

done it he said exactly

1:27:58

my point i said didn't

1:27:59

now know exactly why

1:28:02

i have an issue with the science been down at the cdc

1:28:04

in the fc a step constantly lay

1:28:06

out a monson to meet that vaccines are always

1:28:09

safe always effective and onto any proper

1:28:11

safety studies because they know they'll see what they

1:28:13

already believe you , the bias

1:28:15

there is my problem with the sides the it's

1:28:18

a deep tire foundational principle

1:28:20

of size is supposed to the scientific

1:28:22

method which is bring your biggest questions

1:28:25

your best questions we invite all

1:28:27

of that we should be challenging the

1:28:29

state was we made the theories that were standing

1:28:31

on the products that we've designed from

1:28:34

the greatest minds anyone that can bring the best

1:28:36

talents that's what science is supposed to tears

1:28:38

was totally let go of that that

1:28:40

i think so yes and these bathroom

1:28:44

one way or another viola i'm or

1:28:46

or or or or our society last

1:28:48

the capacity to really polar

1:28:51

it's real science which it always

1:28:53

starts from uncertainty and with mitch

1:28:55

always returns to insert the

1:28:57

science will never lead to certainty

1:29:00

that's what the the heisenberg included with is uncertainty

1:29:02

municipal sit is not so

1:29:05

much that we are not

1:29:07

certain

1:29:08

yeah it's that we will never

1:29:10

be able to be smiled as the pointer so

1:29:13

that's that in and as soon as

1:29:15

the you start to accept that are you start

1:29:17

to be humble enough to

1:29:19

to to to to admit that

1:29:22

are you russian understanding will never be able

1:29:24

to to to really grasp the essence of life elsewhere

1:29:27

to understand i

1:29:30

will rational know that can never

1:29:32

be the through basis of our existence

1:29:34

as a human being and that a society for instance

1:29:36

can never be based on rational understanding

1:29:39

rational understanding is only the first

1:29:41

face in a process of coming to knowledge

1:29:44

is a for the third the first steps and

1:29:47

earnest on francis

1:29:50

articulated that in a very beautiful the he said

1:29:53

that's part of reality that can be understood in a

1:29:56

rational way is very limited

1:29:58

the rest of reality because

1:29:59

me understand the by emphatically

1:30:02

resonating with it i'm sort out at emphatically

1:30:04

doesn't a suitably which is and where do we

1:30:06

live in emphatically it's something

1:30:09

, reminds me very much of the principles of

1:30:11

the some you're either addition for instance where they said

1:30:13

that a the first phase

1:30:15

of first learning process for instance when you learn

1:30:18

sword fighting already martial arts for

1:30:20

the first phase is always a professional

1:30:22

fees and the first phase of the learning

1:30:24

process of the training process you don't certain

1:30:26

techniques which tried to show you

1:30:28

in rationally how you can perform

1:30:31

your art and at the same for a craft or force

1:30:33

for signs of know mother was the first

1:30:35

page as always a technical or rational

1:30:37

stage stage and running through says that he can

1:30:40

understand them at arsenal weights but

1:30:43

are you his these techniques

1:30:46

and these this rational approach

1:30:48

to to the art of to already craft for

1:30:50

a long time you will slowly

1:30:52

start to

1:30:53

develop a certain feel for what you do

1:30:56

you will

1:30:57

the

1:30:58

the earth a different know which

1:31:00

will start to develop some something that you cannot

1:31:02

express any more international terms with something

1:31:04

that based on a certain

1:31:07

feeling with what you're doing that it

1:31:09

does feeding that is this more emphatic

1:31:11

know which is like a more direct contact

1:31:14

with the object that you're trying to know resonating

1:31:16

contact erm that

1:31:19

is the real knowledge and if you the

1:31:21

experience that very much in my own life

1:31:23

it took me until about thirty five years old

1:31:26

before i suddenly started to realize

1:31:28

that what we call it reality and let

1:31:30

me call the facts not rational

1:31:32

it took me that i was twenty five years old when i

1:31:35

a dive deep into the mathematical bases

1:31:37

are from of the systems

1:31:39

theory and

1:31:42

the beauty which shows and permission

1:31:45

but a book to go with

1:31:48

that

1:31:49

oh company that i'm ecosystems and in nature

1:31:51

which are most phenomenon nature actually

1:31:54

behave irrationally they

1:31:56

behave irrationally and i suddenly started

1:31:58

to understand that what because that scenario

1:32:01

or not rational not met russian understanding

1:32:03

would never really

1:32:05

the able to

1:32:07

the rosberg capture the essence

1:32:09

of live around and it is at that moment

1:32:12

and that moment i think the moon that

1:32:14

you can be humble enough to understand

1:32:16

that you're human mind will always

1:32:19

be out of control and that it's will

1:32:21

always fall short to

1:32:23

grasp of the essence of life around

1:32:25

to it is at that moment i think that

1:32:28

you can

1:32:28

open up and an attorney and your mind

1:32:31

can open up that you might a little

1:32:33

mean that those logical building blocks

1:32:36

which you connected

1:32:38

to each other and which isolates

1:32:40

you from the world that he can slide a

1:32:42

little be away from each other and that the

1:32:44

eternal vibrance and music of life

1:32:47

the nature of other human beings

1:32:49

are and can go to the homes

1:32:52

the strings have you been

1:32:54

the and

1:32:55

me and let you make your resonate

1:32:58

with

1:32:59

life around to i

1:33:01

think that at that moment that's

1:33:03

the moment when , start to get in

1:33:05

touch with restarted develop a few

1:33:07

for the mystery of live rounds and that

1:33:10

the moved elsewhere starter

1:33:13

become aware

1:33:16

eternal principles of life and into

1:33:19

these principles these ethical principles

1:33:21

these ethical principles of humanity these

1:33:24

principles can be the basis of human

1:33:26

living together and not rational understand

1:33:28

we believe that rational anderson should

1:33:31

be the ultimate basis of

1:33:33

human living together we will inevitably

1:33:36

laps and to

1:33:37

sort irrationality because

1:33:41

of the essence

1:33:42

no

1:33:44

the doesn't represent the essence of life

1:33:46

and if we make it the essence we

1:33:49

will inevitably

1:33:50

the and end up an absurd irrationality

1:33:53

and more we will destroy

1:33:56

hi

1:33:57

because the essence of life escaped

1:33:59

a

1:34:02

new life on the weekends

1:34:05

the

1:34:06

very one of things

1:34:09

in private and and

1:34:11

, i was watching my now but there was a life

1:34:13

changing moment for the two of us when

1:34:15

i speak to it from my perspective we

1:34:18

had a troublesome pregnancy where we

1:34:20

ended up up

1:34:22

the baby just prior to delivering that

1:34:24

experience for me are brought

1:34:26

up the you know the initial questions

1:34:29

deal board for gun control the situation

1:34:32

i took on that thought and said i'm not

1:34:34

here to decide quality of life not a

1:34:36

don't wanna be a god

1:34:38

figure deciding whether or not this is

1:34:40

gonna be a life of quality that's

1:34:42

not my decision and know and i realize and i

1:34:44

in an instant a try to explain to people

1:34:47

and i think i'm understand more in talking

1:34:49

to you that it was finally

1:34:51

was finally guide it's a producer it's see the problems

1:34:54

ahead and production i'm gonna be was moving

1:34:56

lots and was of money in a production money in

1:34:58

cbs is something i've gotten know the pitfalls

1:35:00

ahead i'm a fixer i not a fix everything

1:35:03

i'm always working situation out i'm

1:35:05

rationalizing i'm incredibly rational

1:35:07

and suddenly in that moment i could not

1:35:09

fix it i couldn't fix it

1:35:11

and anyway and there was something

1:35:14

in finally accepting that

1:35:18

there is something spectacularly

1:35:21

painful and beautiful

1:35:23

about life that i will never be able to control

1:35:25

it and that i don't have control of

1:35:27

these things and i'm going to release it's in

1:35:29

into me it was where

1:35:31

i grew up my father was a minister but i would say

1:35:33

in that moment was where i felt the

1:35:36

connection the something bigger than is something that

1:35:38

is must have some understanding

1:35:40

was taken place here but i do

1:35:42

not and somehow in the release

1:35:45

into that that i cannot change

1:35:48

i , an incredible piece and

1:35:50

incredible power that i think has led me

1:35:52

through all this experience advise me here i've

1:35:54

never been the same person says

1:35:57

and i and i feel like is

1:35:59

the the understanding that this isn't

1:36:01

rash there's no way to rationalize

1:36:04

what's happened me and i'm a victim right in that moment

1:36:07

and until i release to i was a victim

1:36:09

was has been done me why us why

1:36:12

our child when not somebody else

1:36:14

but when i realized that there

1:36:17

are moments in life that cannot be explained

1:36:19

in that is the phenomenon

1:36:21

of it without the dark

1:36:23

places we don't really really appreciate

1:36:26

the light and to really embrace

1:36:30

this if you want to cause chaos

1:36:32

is the beauty of life is it not

1:36:35

i think so that's what the resonating

1:36:37

is i think it's giving up control

1:36:40

it's surrendering

1:36:41

opening your mind and

1:36:44

allowing

1:36:45

something else too

1:36:48

make it resonates

1:36:50

the

1:36:51

the

1:36:52

it's a kind of surrender i think that

1:36:54

will without rational mind because something's right

1:36:56

of control the world around us we try to understand

1:36:59

the to manipulated to control

1:37:01

it and as soon as you can give

1:37:04

up this idea as soon as you can see

1:37:07

that , is an illusion and are lonely a

1:37:10

i'm a onion eight you from

1:37:12

life at that moment

1:37:14

i think you can really

1:37:18

open and and that's something else

1:37:20

move you did something else guide you let

1:37:22

something else something outside the view something

1:37:24

that transcends your own rational

1:37:27

capacities touch

1:37:29

i have said

1:37:31

in talks and not to get to

1:37:33

spiritual on this but through

1:37:35

this journey with this vaccine discussion

1:37:37

and the pandemic i've said many times on stage

1:37:40

i reference the story from genesis

1:37:42

adam and eve and adam and eve are given

1:37:45

perfection a life you have dominion

1:37:47

over the earth everything need clearwater

1:37:50

animals flowers you name it god

1:37:52

says there's only one thing you

1:37:54

cannot do do not eat of the

1:37:56

tree of knowledge good and evil i said

1:37:58

the didn't make sense

1:37:59

don't i wanna have knowledge

1:38:02

of good and evil don't i want to

1:38:04

have those things and then i've said as

1:38:06

i watched this i realize what's taken

1:38:08

place your anything he very well explained he

1:38:10

already have just now it was that mechanistic

1:38:13

world do not believe that

1:38:15

you will feel you will figure out the mechanisms

1:38:18

of life that you will understand what

1:38:20

makes things move what is good what is

1:38:22

bad mean that jeunesse you will

1:38:24

ultimately find yourself all alone

1:38:26

and you will be cast out there you are surely

1:38:29

dot you are not enough space

1:38:31

of acceptance you were going to

1:38:33

go crazy and as really where

1:38:35

we're at now we have to me

1:38:38

you know this is argument that and listen to bring

1:38:40

it back around this is a battle between

1:38:42

good and darkness you know light

1:38:44

and darkness it really is

1:38:46

in a way because it's those that have now

1:38:49

you know been left wanting with

1:38:51

the mechanistic structure the

1:38:54

science is going to bring the reason by which

1:38:56

all things fall into line

1:38:58

but they won't give up they power they now have

1:39:01

and have they are they ones in control

1:39:03

there's an insanity now that

1:39:05

seems to be in our government systems

1:39:07

and certainly or health systems which are merged

1:39:10

and or technology systems which is more

1:39:12

this mechanistic desire to

1:39:14

make the world a utopia place that seems

1:39:17

to as it's tracks us more more

1:39:19

is doing exactly what he was science keeps

1:39:21

doing where it was setting out to out us

1:39:23

free it's imprisoning us

1:39:25

were becoming slaves to this and

1:39:28

the slave drivers of this

1:39:30

insanity seem to be in every position

1:39:32

of power of the world right now

1:39:35

i agree that's also what hundred or

1:39:37

inserts the inserts the the

1:39:39

isn't this this this idea

1:39:42

the human being

1:39:44

gun control everything

1:39:47

his old is

1:39:49

new of them of evil

1:39:50

exactly i think because

1:39:52

what

1:39:53

that a few minutes ago namely the

1:39:56

the right

1:39:59

to read

1:39:59

life to rationality and and

1:40:02

that movements and that action

1:40:04

it cannot else than destroy them

1:40:06

that the done destroy the core of humor

1:40:10

that it

1:40:11

the think system for instance beliefs beliefs

1:40:14

that it should make all the choices

1:40:16

what citizens

1:40:17

then it inevitably destroys this little

1:40:21

bit of space

1:40:22

where every every human being can make

1:40:24

his own choices that every every human being

1:40:27

can

1:40:27

realize itself

1:40:31

her as a singular human being so

1:40:33

that's what makes to put

1:40:35

it that in isn't ultimately humanization

1:40:38

when you point out the different figures that

1:40:40

we've discussed on this show klaus schwab

1:40:42

ah you've all know all harare

1:40:45

who you know whether

1:40:47

or not i can't tell all the time whether he's

1:40:49

just writing about it or if he is completely

1:40:52

and it expressing his own internal

1:40:54

fear of what he can i control

1:40:56

the what he describes as a future

1:40:59

humans are now have

1:41:01

couple animal

1:41:03

you know that the whole a view that humans

1:41:05

have you know this that they they have these

1:41:08

solo spirit of the have free

1:41:10

will and nobody knows what's happening

1:41:12

inside me so whatever

1:41:14

i choose whether in the election or

1:41:16

weathering the supermarket this is my free will

1:41:19

that's over

1:41:20

in and i think of bill gates and these people

1:41:23

involved in this that

1:41:25

they see the only way we

1:41:27

survive is that we must

1:41:30

control humanity to make be appropriate

1:41:32

decisions for themselves that

1:41:34

is the only way we live right to survive

1:41:36

as to live and those of

1:41:39

us that are opposed this idea are saying

1:41:41

that snow we lived as long as if we

1:41:43

if you're fracking under my skin

1:41:45

is yvonne overall read talks about abusive

1:41:48

you're tracking every part of my bio

1:41:50

metrics and then trying to decide how decide think

1:41:52

your humble of votes and controlling harm than

1:41:54

harm vote and can fully this discussed as we have it's

1:41:56

censoring anybody that wants to get me a different

1:41:58

perspective more the three me when i'm

1:42:00

sharing something that i may have just seen

1:42:03

my own way then we died

1:42:06

were dead and these people that literally

1:42:08

i think say , fighting

1:42:11

for our lives in humanity or selling

1:42:13

us the killing what life is so

1:42:15

absolutely absolutely isn't

1:42:18

that's that's the case that

1:42:22

the

1:42:23

the strength and and one of the strangest things

1:42:25

for thing for me has always that they do so

1:42:28

in the name of science bio

1:42:30

science itself all seminal scientist

1:42:32

has exactly concluded that life can

1:42:34

be controlled international

1:42:37

so that leads me to probably what

1:42:39

i would say is the more controversial

1:42:41

part of this button ah in

1:42:43

chapter eight you ,

1:42:45

him because what i've just talked to i pod

1:42:47

votes you've all know harare klaus

1:42:50

schwab bill gates did you know

1:42:52

tony fauzi were discussing these figures

1:42:55

debtor imprinting upon the world

1:42:57

that my in the science we're the answer

1:43:00

you will you know and many many

1:43:02

people the majority at least

1:43:04

of the last couple of years signed on

1:43:07

to as you said this mass

1:43:09

formation we've found some sort of wholeness

1:43:11

in a crazy ritual of locking ourselves

1:43:14

down of vaccinated

1:43:16

ourselves than untested products over and

1:43:18

over and no matter how much it failed it

1:43:20

seemed the just more was the answer

1:43:23

but there seem to be these figures that keep

1:43:26

coming up coming this conversation which

1:43:28

leads me to chapter eight in chapter

1:43:30

eight you discuss the conspiracy

1:43:33

this idea that the conspiracy ah

1:43:35

is where were all sort of leaning

1:43:38

but it's wrong let me just pulled me out of

1:43:40

chapter out of ideology right

1:43:42

fanatical conspiracy thinking

1:43:45

testifies to the almost irresistible

1:43:47

tendency of human beings to find

1:43:49

someone who can be held responsible

1:43:51

in the face of adversity and can thereby we

1:43:53

made the object of aggression

1:43:56

distant probably be seen as one manifestation

1:43:58

of a more general psychological

1:44:00

rule the more anger people feel the

1:44:03

more intentional malice they

1:44:05

perceive now ,

1:44:07

that i think that paragraph and way

1:44:09

really captures the chapter but just

1:44:11

to see of i've got this right you

1:44:14

are arguing that this

1:44:16

mass were mason really any mass for

1:44:18

mister there's a ballistic in this kobe

1:44:20

pandemic thing that we've just gone

1:44:22

through that we

1:44:25

want just like those

1:44:27

captured by the mass formations want

1:44:30

an answer that is simple and makes

1:44:32

sense than in in and therefore fulfills

1:44:35

you know this need to have a truth

1:44:37

lies that on the other side those

1:44:39

of us that question that authority and him stood

1:44:41

up against it's we're seeking a

1:44:44

similarly satisfying

1:44:46

yet hello i'm

1:44:48

i'm world understanding

1:44:51

world driving force which is there's a conspiracy

1:44:54

that's causing this there this a small

1:44:56

group of people they're inflicting

1:44:59

this ideology upon

1:45:01

us that we're all going through and so

1:45:04

to be clear you

1:45:06

believe this master mason though

1:45:08

driven by many as these and ideas

1:45:10

and and ideas that are out there is

1:45:13

more chaotic in it's in his functions

1:45:15

that brings their that is not some

1:45:17

driven you know small

1:45:20

group of people that wrote this out implanted

1:45:22

and created it

1:45:24

the

1:45:27

the trinity

1:45:29

originally written

1:45:30

the deleted

1:45:32

realize very much on

1:45:35

indoctrination propaganda

1:45:36

that has all kind of ideological

1:45:39

plans

1:45:40

the

1:45:40

mean lineup you don't want to see this plans

1:45:43

are going to exist before the crisis and

1:45:45

the they were pushed forward by the elites

1:45:47

the road

1:45:49

large scale

1:45:50

unprecedented

1:45:52

indoctrination and then the

1:45:54

end the propaganda campaigns and so

1:45:56

i'm i'm

1:45:58

one hundred percent convinced of that

1:46:00

the but i didn't

1:46:02

there is one thing important

1:46:04

the make a mistake

1:46:06

he dismissed

1:46:07

read news the problem to this video

1:46:10

everything

1:46:12

the evil

1:46:13

the you that was is only

1:46:16

situated in the elite

1:46:18

that

1:46:19

the only problem hon

1:46:21

that is the elite another probably would be soft

1:46:24

is that if this is no longer exists

1:46:26

then we make a serious mistake for me it's about

1:46:29

that

1:46:30

you need to eating as part of the problem everything

1:46:33

, us if

1:46:35

we

1:46:36

the eliminate this is indeed

1:46:39

a free good to destroy does it eat

1:46:41

in a in a violent revolution

1:46:43

then that would be the most

1:46:47

the

1:46:49

strategic choice we can make

1:46:52

the most self

1:46:54

yes of course by the zero

1:46:56

zero in this small enemy outside of his at

1:46:58

we destroy ourselves house they will destroy

1:47:01

us in the day will destroy course of course

1:47:03

because they will use i would violence

1:47:05

as a justification to to destroy

1:47:07

us and we definitely bill bill bill lose that

1:47:09

we'll we'll we'll we'll lose this game but

1:47:12

and and even if we would succeed in that

1:47:14

is even more important a thing as

1:47:16

long as

1:47:17

people company to think in the same me

1:47:19

as long as people continue

1:47:22

to be in the grip of this rationalist

1:47:24

mechanists ideology

1:47:26

they will simply recreate

1:47:28

the same

1:47:30

regretted not normally nothing will

1:47:32

change the so typical for for a totalitarian

1:47:34

as and and classical dictatorship

1:47:37

it makes sense to try to destroy the classical

1:47:39

dictator because if you succeed in doing so the

1:47:41

system will collapse and it's authoritarian

1:47:43

state it'll the initial

1:47:45

simply be replaced simply because the

1:47:48

point of gravity of the system

1:47:50

is always situated in the most of the vote

1:47:52

in the grip of a certain ideology that something

1:47:54

something important i think so

1:47:57

i believe that the problem

1:47:59

with spit is he thinking with what i call

1:48:01

even article conspiracy think the problem

1:48:04

is not so much a that

1:48:06

you are wrong in this sense that there are no conspiracies

1:48:08

that with conspiracies conspiracies have always

1:48:10

existed but the problem rather

1:48:14

that

1:48:15

the

1:48:16

everything is reduced to conspiracy and at the problem

1:48:18

is reduced to a conspiracy earned

1:48:20

in this way automatically from

1:48:23

such an analysis follows the strategical

1:48:25

advice this elite has to

1:48:27

be the destroyed the

1:48:29

and and definitely and and and self destructive

1:48:33

i'd rather go to some snitching

1:48:35

on actually goes him in the chapter i think a

1:48:38

, says says would be easy to

1:48:40

believe that the problem of authoritarianism

1:48:42

i quotes also to choose from us

1:48:48

russia

1:48:54

is , would be easy to believe that a problem

1:48:56

of authoritarianism , by

1:48:59

one small evil group

1:49:02

but he said we all know

1:49:05

that the dividing line between good and

1:49:07

evil does not run between a

1:49:09

threat

1:49:13

i think we have to

1:49:15

the

1:49:17

hamas don't have to admit that thing that to a

1:49:19

certain extent we are all part of the

1:49:21

problem we all participated

1:49:23

this mechanists

1:49:26

, thinking we all brought

1:49:28

our of money to the banks for instance earth

1:49:31

if they wouldn't be all mighty powerful

1:49:34

the bankers if people

1:49:37

were not willing to bring their money to the banks be all

1:49:39

or part of the system

1:49:41

no one more than the other end of one or more

1:49:43

responsible than the other but the

1:49:45

into a certain extent the think it's best to

1:49:48

see that we're

1:49:50

to certain extent we all thought of the problem but

1:49:53

at the same find but the real enemy

1:49:55

is never another human being

1:49:58

the real enemy is always

1:50:00

the situated

1:50:01

the level of a certain

1:50:03

the way a certain view amenable

1:50:06

certain

1:50:07

the

1:50:11

roll few which which

1:50:13

beliefs that i would human

1:50:15

mind capable controlling

1:50:19

life and and the and

1:50:21

the and reality this this kind

1:50:23

of ideology that created at the same

1:50:25

time at the same time this

1:50:29

kind of thinking this mechanists ideology we

1:50:31

the doctor with aka think in our first conversation

1:50:34

a is this ideology

1:50:36

that brought

1:50:38

a condition in this the problematic

1:50:42

when it became extremely vulnerable for matter

1:50:44

most does the first thing on the one on this ideology

1:50:46

created

1:50:48

certain

1:50:49

a problem and the psychological states and the population

1:50:51

which may which made it is available from masturbation

1:50:54

and about the same time it is this

1:50:56

ideology which created a certain any

1:50:58

specific it in the late too much

1:51:00

believed that it wasn't so duty

1:51:03

to manipulate the population to

1:51:06

through indoctrination propaganda brainwashing

1:51:08

all kinds of psi ops and so on this

1:51:10

new elite a image

1:51:12

throughout the last in last in believe all

1:51:14

four are good right we need we

1:51:17

need something to believe in in order to be whole

1:51:19

therefore let us sort of sees that space

1:51:21

and hand yourself into believing that makes the whole

1:51:24

read the founding fathers of modern

1:51:27

propaganda such as throttle lipman a

1:51:29

bit a nice if you'd read their works

1:51:31

that he was clearly see that they

1:51:34

were

1:51:34

the reasoning

1:51:36

the on the following lines

1:51:38

the

1:51:39

then the the beginning of

1:51:41

modern democracy

1:51:43

the political leaders are not leaders anymore

1:51:46

because they have to be elected that

1:51:48

means that have to follow the masses the and tried

1:51:50

to know what the masses once and then

1:51:52

they have to know him with i think they need to hear yes

1:51:55

think i'd be have to tell them what they need to here we have

1:51:57

to give them what they want or otherwise you won't be reelected

1:51:59

so that's

1:52:00

when

1:52:03

he said he said means

1:52:06

that

1:52:07

we will foreplay

1:52:08

the to the to the destruction

1:52:11

and irrationality of them us because

1:52:13

the masses are intrinsically irrational

1:52:15

and destructive so erm and

1:52:17

the politicians cannot control

1:52:19

meaning that

1:52:20

the if we don't find other

1:52:23

means to control them we will fall prey

1:52:25

to them to them masses and that's where that's where up

1:52:27

with his mother theory of propaganda he said we

1:52:29

have no other option

1:52:31

then to develop an impressive

1:52:34

propaganda machinery and to constantly

1:52:37

manipulate the thief

1:52:39

or the masses control them us

1:52:41

so that's what

1:52:43

the the origin of the

1:52:46

loss of he was why

1:52:48

the propaganda machine that must be

1:52:50

developed and that is

1:52:53

this combination of this population

1:52:55

which as , consequence

1:52:57

of mechanistic thing is brought that

1:52:59

a psychological state would have the sensitive for another

1:53:02

nation propaganda reddit is extremely

1:53:04

vulnerable for him to punish propaganda

1:53:06

and so much maintenance and on the other

1:53:08

hand this edited which right

1:53:11

and only duty to constantly manipulate

1:53:14

the bombs and is this combination to which

1:53:16

on a hundred or and refers the

1:53:18

diabolical pact between the masses

1:53:20

and is it which is the

1:53:23

basis of darkness on audiences

1:53:25

the basis of authoritarianism the essence

1:53:28

of authoritarianism of authoritarianism

1:53:30

the diabolical back between the masses

1:53:33

and it it says in

1:53:35

a way we're we're inseparable

1:53:38

in in some space where we

1:53:40

keep creating you

1:53:42

know our new mask for me see if

1:53:44

we get addicted to the idea of my friends

1:53:46

my friends friends are serious conspiracy theories

1:53:48

they are totally the not happy it

1:53:51

doesn't bring happiness they can't trust

1:53:53

a the around them and their

1:53:55

science which the science a conspiracy

1:53:57

leaves them with the same gaping hole today

1:54:00

if you come to an answer that less than sleep

1:54:02

at night that there's a purpose to life and so we

1:54:04

just keep repeating this because

1:54:06

i'm a deep inner illness essentially

1:54:09

our our original sin i would

1:54:11

say is our need to know when

1:54:13

people come up to me and they'll say

1:54:15

dell how does this end

1:54:17

this mean you're deeply in this you seem to

1:54:19

have to have how does this all

1:54:21

and how do you see this ending and

1:54:24

i used to try and answer that and sometimes

1:54:27

i would give just a short version wall i think we

1:54:29

win or if i was feeling

1:54:31

you know strongly metaphysical

1:54:33

i would say look i'm living my life in

1:54:35

a space of faith and really

1:54:38

i am being imbued the lot of for

1:54:40

site for what we've gotten right but

1:54:42

i've really been taking the appropriate steps

1:54:44

into faith and i feel

1:54:47

like i'm being guided a lot of people don't want

1:54:49

to hear that and you know but in

1:54:51

the end what i realized the real answer

1:54:53

is your need to know

1:54:56

how this ends is our

1:54:58

problem that is why

1:55:00

we're here are exactly right yes yes

1:55:02

yes we are in this predicament

1:55:05

because you keep the sold

1:55:07

some ending that makes you feel like

1:55:10

for a moment there's a purpose to your

1:55:12

life and whoever

1:55:14

he is it to you you buy it until it

1:55:16

comes up short and we keep

1:55:18

going back to the need to know where we're going

1:55:20

instead of recognizing this isn't

1:55:23

defined there is a beauty live

1:55:25

in to your curiosity live

1:55:28

in to your insecurities as you

1:55:30

say this books create ended as we as

1:55:32

create your understanding of what

1:55:34

your life is here

1:55:37

i agree and also i'd i'd

1:55:39

i think it makes no sense to try to predict

1:55:42

what will happen and to try to know when all

1:55:44

this will be finished and so on and how with will and

1:55:46

know the can never really i think

1:55:48

we have to try to understand that of the should always

1:55:50

be aware of the fact that will never be able to

1:55:52

really understand and to predict what will happen

1:55:54

and that in this way be just lose our

1:55:57

energy energy that we should use

1:55:59

at the right little namely

1:56:02

the only thing

1:56:03

the really should

1:56:05

focus

1:56:08

on is the fact that no matter

1:56:10

how inhumane the world around

1:56:13

us becomes that we ourselves

1:56:17

to our ethical principles and if we

1:56:19

do so and will have to reset the universal

1:56:23

but we will have to reinvent them

1:56:25

real secondly them rediscovered

1:56:27

don't make it really our own principles

1:56:30

and if we do that

1:56:31

then

1:56:32

the will

1:56:34

the flu

1:56:36

i would positioning we will go

1:56:38

to a fast evolution as a human being

1:56:40

and that's the real meaning for me

1:56:43

the real purpose of everything that happens

1:56:45

know the and rob you small

1:56:47

group

1:56:48

the true

1:56:49

stay loyal to ethical principles

1:56:52

to the principle of humanity in a dehumanizing

1:56:54

build and this small group will be

1:56:56

pushed on a path that it'll go through

1:56:58

very fast evolution as of him as a human being

1:57:00

does was oh that's for me the

1:57:03

true meaning

1:57:04

of what is now happening this process

1:57:07

, much for this gives us

1:57:09

more precise a

1:57:11

lot of pressure on the people who do

1:57:13

not want to conform to do to go

1:57:16

along the diamond did he well under pressure

1:57:19

the

1:57:20

that's exactly is exactly the reason

1:57:22

this pressure as a real reason why

1:57:24

the small group start the move

1:57:26

it is to funnel that it would never

1:57:28

go to without the pressure of the large group

1:57:31

this way

1:57:32

something really thrown in you will be born and

1:57:34

that's why in the short term i'm realistic

1:57:36

i think it's will be very difficult and sultan

1:57:39

i think this critics

1:57:45

everything's under control

1:57:46

the to the extreme

1:57:48

that that there is no other solution

1:57:51

of for the problems we're facing done

1:57:53

more and more technological control and surveillance

1:57:57

i believe this will be put to the limits my they also

1:58:00

quite company

1:58:02

then there will be a group who refused to go

1:58:04

along omelet with a system and

1:58:06

at this group will be vocal

1:58:09

enough that it will continue to speak

1:58:11

out in the than this way it's will

1:58:13

make sure that there will always

1:58:15

remain a small buff open for a group

1:58:17

to welcome to not only survived the

1:58:19

situation

1:58:21

the also to find

1:58:23

in the situation it's

1:58:25

motivation

1:58:26

the to

1:58:27

go to were a

1:58:29

mental and spiritual era evolution

1:58:32

where it would never go to without the pressure

1:58:35

be exercised okay

1:58:37

so let's stay right there is sort of wrap

1:58:40

this up because we're talking talking

1:58:42

this book about through the breakdown

1:58:44

of society many social experiments

1:58:47

seven people to room you know looking at

1:58:49

a set of wise you know which lines matchup

1:58:52

they've set the other six to say the one thing

1:58:54

is under seven cents to go along with that even

1:58:56

on a looking good defies around reason

1:58:59

all those things but you

1:59:01

know as we in so you say you know we break

1:59:03

down into basically there's a thirty

1:59:05

or forty percent the truly you

1:59:07

know push the agenda believe in the agenda

1:59:10

there's forty to sixty percent in the middle

1:59:12

that just go along with where everything's going

1:59:14

the deep down they don't really feel like a summit

1:59:16

in the deal but they're not going to fight it

1:59:19

and then there's this you know small group

1:59:21

smaller group at the end so

1:59:23

a tween ten and thirty percent that is going

1:59:25

to resist resist where things

1:59:27

are going and stay in the ethics

1:59:29

and and in a place of

1:59:31

reason that makes you know that

1:59:34

that , be affirmed affirmed

1:59:37

so is it that are

1:59:39

we in a tug of war here are we playing

1:59:41

a tug of war with this central group are

1:59:43

we trying are we really

1:59:45

in a battle with that thirty percent on the other

1:59:48

end to become the forty percent that out numbers

1:59:50

them said this group comes our

1:59:52

way or is that just gonna

1:59:54

be another mass formation and we've become the formation

1:59:57

that they follow

2:00:00

we shouldn't become immersed the i'm sure that

2:00:03

if the group who doesn't go

2:00:06

along with along mathematician a becomes a

2:00:08

mess itself it'll be destroyed in a so

2:00:10

my goal on the high were in here should

2:00:12

not be to try and get all the masses

2:00:15

to move my direction

2:00:16

don't think so i think it should be

2:00:19

just too

2:00:20

the articulate

2:00:22

give different voices

2:00:24

the possibility

2:00:26

to resonate and society to

2:00:28

the got all are worried this little group

2:00:31

of individual think as recreating

2:00:33

in other space so and that's exactly what shot

2:00:35

define this group that doesn't

2:00:37

go along with the masses this group should be a

2:00:39

group that shares one

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central a virtue namely

2:00:43

that it encourages everly

2:00:45

want to us the have it's own

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opinion and

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secondly this group should be from in

2:00:52

this group should be formed not because

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we all

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the back to the same

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the com

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the ideology or something new this group should

2:01:01

be formed because it develops

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strong social bonds between individuals

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people should have other rather

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than this ideal ,

2:01:10

this or this is connected to

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that was thing wishes

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if you truly humane group

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from us

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this is based on the on one hand

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it encourages this general

2:01:23

principle for every human being that you have

2:01:26

the right to articulate your own opinion

2:01:29

the am i i just

2:01:31

i and that this group is formed

2:01:33

because it is based on strong bonds

2:01:35

between individuals rather done

2:01:38

on the bond between every individual separately

2:01:40

a and collector or bond to an

2:01:42

ideology we share some

2:01:44

ideology and the i mean i can't

2:01:46

tell you as i listened to it this things that things think

2:01:48

i've intuitively sensed

2:01:51

every i've i've said this on on my show

2:01:53

but everywhere i travel one of the things

2:01:55

that people say to me as dell we've got to

2:01:57

figure out a way to get all these different groups

2:01:59

that

2:01:59

the against the vaccination are against the locked

2:02:02

down and then and to come together

2:02:04

we've got to unite all of us come

2:02:06

up with the central theme that we all share

2:02:08

that we become this united front and

2:02:10

i'd missing the whole time no no

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i mean i mean i number one it will never

2:02:16

happen all you will do is create

2:02:18

in fighting for someone

2:02:20

struggling to be the one is going to write that sense lobby

2:02:22

we're all gonna follow what you're going to be have still

2:02:24

become a dictatorship of some sort to be a battle

2:02:26

over who gets to make that statement less it instead

2:02:29

do your guided to do follow your

2:02:31

intuition is your steve problem mercury

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in vaccines ancestry should know is not brackets

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aluminum still find you fight for the most important

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build since allies and then go with the

2:02:40

board the results are you know it's only legislation

2:02:42

that's going to get this and then go to the legislature know

2:02:45

it's only legal the new developments every

2:02:47

united center would go with your guide

2:02:49

to go express i

2:02:51

think we're vessels in something

2:02:54

much more magnificent you

2:02:56

know and we're being guided to

2:02:58

an individual space that we get

2:03:00

to be the stars of that space right we get

2:03:03

to be enough horde of more

2:03:05

divinity of whatever ah

2:03:09

of the algae we create or ideology

2:03:11

we create an estimate right but

2:03:13

we accept each other we love each

2:03:15

other settler or uniqueness and for being

2:03:17

different that's exactly what they want to say like

2:03:20

was but what i really like setting

2:03:22

much and this in this group of people who

2:03:24

do not going on with a mainstream narrative

2:03:31

like i would have never talk

2:03:33

to you never

2:03:35

ever i would have judged you

2:03:38

know how i would have got judgment on you because

2:03:40

if you're sometimes i'm ashamed to say is

2:03:42

because of your appearance of because of what i think

2:03:45

your political your

2:03:47

political or you know i look

2:03:49

at this people i see how different

2:03:51

the or and i realize

2:03:55

you have one characters

2:03:57

that for me so

2:04:01

they will get older

2:04:03

you refuse to go along

2:04:05

with is dehumanizing ideology and

2:04:07

and you one

2:04:09

the

2:04:10

the lose a lot

2:04:12

a just already present

2:04:15

a little bit afraid of and of humanity

2:04:17

in life and that's enough subsets this if

2:04:19

i see nothing more

2:04:22

what enough of your

2:04:24

that that think that is what makes

2:04:27

i would humans

2:04:28

the human being so beautiful that it this

2:04:30

so

2:04:31

enter

2:04:34

genius at that are so many differences between

2:04:37

prominent differences

2:04:40

we should

2:04:41

consider my thing

2:04:45

the greatest threat

2:04:48

enemies is it makes a scary to leads

2:04:50

hard to lead

2:04:52

see of individual is so much easier

2:04:55

to lead a group i've said this people

2:04:57

say why are they doing this to us as you're doing

2:04:59

it must of us are doing on families you're

2:05:01

you're raising your kids scene but not

2:05:03

her just because i said it's just do it because

2:05:05

i said so we're trying to train

2:05:08

the individuality and the questioning

2:05:10

mine and that you know out of our children

2:05:12

because it makes our lives easier if

2:05:14

our whole family just cross country the same time

2:05:16

has fallen that right it's much

2:05:19

harder when you're going every the directed you're going to

2:05:21

get kills you going to be three minutes you know and

2:05:23

so we are grasping for control

2:05:25

from , microcosm of

2:05:28

our families to our churches

2:05:30

to our schools in some ways to develop

2:05:32

something that we all follow but

2:05:34

i have to say and you know it when

2:05:37

i really embrace even i

2:05:39

don't want he hears that

2:05:41

my only goal was to be this

2:05:44

profound and really enjoy

2:05:46

that on the smaller group i think when

2:05:48

we watch that would you allow people was the

2:05:50

high where does this dream some day we're going to

2:05:53

be the majority right majority said right i'd said i've

2:05:55

said is a mansion we are the majority more

2:05:57

people are now rejecting the vaccines

2:05:59

accepting them even those that received the vaccine

2:06:02

we have sort of shifted into

2:06:05

a collective consciousness that is rejecting

2:06:07

this as they could be very difficult you

2:06:10

know we could go on for hours you know

2:06:12

before we got him that he said i think there's gonna be

2:06:14

other viruses are going to just keep hitting these

2:06:16

things but certainly you must recognize

2:06:19

that they have really

2:06:21

hampered i call it did boy who cried

2:06:24

wolf problem that there's

2:06:26

going to be a real issue with

2:06:28

locking us down is doing this to

2:06:30

us again at least if you're gonna keep using

2:06:32

viruses as the with do then so

2:06:35

, but are we still am

2:06:37

i still misguided in thinking when

2:06:39

i say that were a might majority in the

2:06:41

thinking about this is it still

2:06:44

a smaller group that i have to recognize

2:06:46

and be passionate about

2:06:48

i think it's still a small group

2:06:50

do believe that still a

2:06:52

smaller group but that doesn't matter

2:06:55

that's not the size of the group

2:06:57

that that's feel that will allow us to

2:06:59

do a to as i think what for

2:07:01

me

2:07:03

what i hope for the future

2:07:05

that

2:07:06

the new society will emerge functions

2:07:09

according to a real original

2:07:11

ethical principles that's what i hope and

2:07:14

i think it will be a small group rediscovers

2:07:17

these principles

2:07:18

and who would reintroduce is that

2:07:20

that's worth a small group will have to get

2:07:23

in touch with the with with his principles itself

2:07:26

because most of us know it ever look

2:07:28

and and have a look at the people who who

2:07:31

i'm a little going

2:07:33

on with the mainstream narrative mainstream think most of

2:07:35

them myself

2:07:36

they'll have to go a long way before

2:07:39

we really

2:07:42

or in touch with these principles again the

2:07:44

great all still continue to live

2:07:47

very much according to the

2:07:50

habits and the and the ideology

2:07:52

of the old rules of of of of of the of

2:07:54

the of the mechanists ideology to be honest

2:07:56

i think we have we go with on way think think that fb

2:07:59

that way

2:08:00

then the small group will really it's

2:08:02

already

2:08:03

are you responsible so much and

2:08:05

it will be capable of delivering a new

2:08:07

mobile

2:08:08

for

2:08:10

the society in which human beings can live

2:08:12

a life worth every human being

2:08:16

the fear is that this larger

2:08:18

group right now that technocratic takeover

2:08:21

of the world the tracking systems what

2:08:23

happens if they start atomizer vaccines

2:08:25

in the air or delivering them through mosquitoes

2:08:28

that mean i keep saying it's like in

2:08:30

way revenge of the nerves like these people

2:08:32

that you know it i

2:08:34

came i grew up skiing in and

2:08:37

and then and rock climbing i risk

2:08:39

my own life i feel like these

2:08:42

people are risking all of our lives

2:08:44

to express whatever it is they want

2:08:46

or their challenge of life as we know

2:08:48

it but do

2:08:50

we have to leave that

2:08:53

to kill itself is it going to just

2:08:55

erupt and destroy itself and

2:08:57

we just need to be focused on remaining

2:09:00

clear and getting as many people

2:09:02

i guess metaphorically onto this arc

2:09:05

as are available if you are a part

2:09:07

of this we are building a new society

2:09:09

we are we're getting back to the ethics

2:09:12

that truly are you know

2:09:14

i'm a part of nature in a part of

2:09:16

our connection to it and the rest of this

2:09:19

would you know is gonna do what

2:09:21

is going to do and it will steroids

2:09:24

of the marriage otherness riot definitely

2:09:26

you also

2:09:27

what will happen

2:09:29

they did in the large group the masses

2:09:31

felt exhausted themselves they will destroy themselves

2:09:34

and we don't have to do this that

2:09:36

level be the have to do nothing the only thing

2:09:39

left to make sure that we we ourselves

2:09:41

next to his principles and the first

2:09:44

of these principles and of the have to speak out if

2:09:46

we do that he will constantly

2:09:48

disturb the

2:09:50

i would have the most was constantly break the

2:09:52

break through to hypnosis a little been

2:09:55

a little bit and it'll never go so far that

2:09:57

it's the chooses for the radical destruction

2:09:59

of the people

2:09:59

go against that and so what's

2:10:02

your happiness when something very simple the

2:10:04

boat of the most is slowly will decrease

2:10:07

it's all the system will first become more repressive

2:10:09

it will excommunicated everyone who

2:10:11

doesn't go along with if that's how i feel it but

2:10:14

at the same time it's by what will decrease that

2:10:16

the human energy bill will be destroyed

2:10:18

in the group the by would will decrease and

2:10:20

the small group at first sight

2:10:23

of a loose everything but

2:10:25

and by would will start to increase

2:10:27

that a certain moment

2:10:29

the line to cross each other

2:10:30

the small group will become more powerful powerful

2:10:33

than a large group and it'll be able

2:10:37

most as principles to provide

2:10:39

the principles to reorganize

2:10:42

to they delete and society and the researchers

2:10:44

society and really through the humane

2:10:46

society

2:10:47

the resurrection really

2:10:50

for humanity young something you'd

2:10:52

have to go and it though i suspect

2:10:54

up now

2:10:56

the

2:10:59

powerful our for

2:11:01

fascinating i'm a know well

2:11:04

i hope people watching are gonna have the composition

2:11:07

unknown and have at the dinner table that ah

2:11:10

mathias so

2:11:13

so happy that real the jewish here

2:11:15

and for those i know i'm i'm going to put this out there

2:11:18

there's questions questions you got here are you

2:11:20

control opposition i hate the end this way

2:11:22

but how did you get into this country does

2:11:24

you get vaccinated

2:11:29

it a little i told my face to face

2:11:31

page

2:11:32

that the gates to america

2:11:34

they're not so small

2:11:36

that i had to leave my principles behind to

2:11:38

go through it and i mean that i

2:11:40

would never do that i would never do that

2:11:43

well i'm not going to ask you how that

2:11:45

your own that are other options says other bob

2:11:47

some and they are perfectly legal okay as

2:11:50

a book is good to know right well

2:11:53

mathias thank you so much freedom

2:11:55

that emerges i'll emerges i'll enjoy

2:11:57

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i phone

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our city are digging did i go too

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deep a move that is too deep

2:13:56

in the weeds and and and i'll and i'll just say this

2:13:59

that's i think i've been cleared that

2:14:01

one of the things on this show is i have

2:14:03

questions for people that i want

2:14:05

to ask and after my last interview

2:14:07

with mathias desmond i thought genius

2:14:09

that would really love to go out some night

2:14:11

and get some dinner with mathias desmond and ask

2:14:13

the questions i would like to go and go deeper

2:14:15

well guess what i i don't have that opportunity

2:14:18

if these you know people like the two years come through like

2:14:20

they did today on onto the show

2:14:23

i want to take advantage of it and not

2:14:25

just beat her to make it entertaining you

2:14:27

just watch what i think this conversation

2:14:30

is all about there's a ton of other things i wanted to

2:14:32

cover but i really follow the nature

2:14:34

of were that was going i hope that

2:14:36

you enjoyed that as much as i did

2:14:38

because i think we really got a deep

2:14:40

insight into how we're

2:14:42

trying to control our world how we

2:14:44

want science and technology to

2:14:46

to to bail us out of our fear and give

2:14:49

us a reason for being and we're losing

2:14:51

ourselves in his or need to know

2:14:53

what we're doing and where we're going we're

2:14:55

just lost the ability to be spontaneous

2:14:57

and i think there was such a brilliant journey

2:14:59

than i am really glad the mathias allow that

2:15:02

to happen well you know if i

2:15:04

if i didn't prove it with this interview this

2:15:06

week i'm going to prove a few next week

2:15:08

that there is no interview that i am afraid

2:15:10

of doing or or anywhere that

2:15:12

i'm afraid of going i am a curious person

2:15:14

and so there are times we were i'm

2:15:16

going to say things are doing things that i sure will

2:15:19

not groove with all of you out there in

2:15:21

the audience i'm not trying to do is

2:15:23

show where i'm a pc i'm certainly don't

2:15:25

appease any sponsors so we're already

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gone rogue i don't have a single sponsor

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that gets to tell me tell you know i didn't really like

2:15:31

how you cover that are where you went with that but

2:15:33

mine just next week i have had

2:15:36

several people say dell don't do it dell

2:15:38

don't do it are you crazy don't do

2:15:40

it do what this conspiracy

2:15:43

theorist alex brand cocktail health

2:15:45

conspiracy spreader alex jones the most controversial

2:15:47

man in america

2:15:48

maybe hook massacre for one hundred fifty

2:15:51

million dollars decimate

2:15:52

love him or hate thursday

2:15:56

, fifth he lays

2:15:58

it all have seen them creating them

2:16:01

going to take me out because

2:16:06

hi wires your part events from are still my guts

2:16:08

today i want to hear it unfiltered yeah right

2:16:10

the real alex jones their fifties

2:16:13

eleven am pacific time only at

2:16:15

the high wire dot com

2:16:17

we went places that i don't think

2:16:19

anyone's ever gone i'm so happy

2:16:21

that alex jones gave me the opportunity

2:16:24

we certainly had moments where we came together

2:16:26

and aligned on a lotta things we've

2:16:28

talked about we share certain ideas that come

2:16:31

together but i definitely went

2:16:33

to places that were uncomfortable for him

2:16:35

i told him i would and i'm not happy

2:16:37

about some of the things that have happened and i

2:16:39

let that be clear if you want to see all

2:16:42

of that conversation and what took place

2:16:44

when two people that maybe don't see the

2:16:46

world exactly the same come together but share

2:16:48

our thoughts clearly and completely

2:16:51

then you're not going to want to miss next week's show please

2:16:54

check it out a don't be afraid don't

2:16:56

be afraid of this man i think we should

2:16:58

be listening to everybody you should be curious to know

2:17:00

how everyone thinks and a you know

2:17:02

when i think about it you know even joe

2:17:04

rogan said alex jones

2:17:07

is one of the most misunderstood human

2:17:09

beings on the planet i would

2:17:11

agree with him and i think we all

2:17:13

in the studio understood things about

2:17:15

alex we did not know after this

2:17:17

interview or took place so definitely

2:17:19

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2:17:49

why i'm going to talk about this next conference

2:17:52

coming up in australia at first it was

2:17:54

in bath and now it's going to austria

2:17:56

the better way

2:18:22

hum the new me as i would suffice

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follows

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will be noted into the only

2:18:39

known them

2:19:07

well the better way com first megan's way to

2:19:09

austria next week austria's

2:19:12

been under you know even

2:19:14

probably some of the greatest threat connie measures

2:19:17

we saw with fines for not

2:19:19

vaccinating masking everywhere arm

2:19:22

and dot so i think it's really awesome that

2:19:24

they're going there to sort of really stand

2:19:26

for never letting this happen again

2:19:29

i'm joined right now the by the organizer

2:19:31

maria whom are mortgage or

2:19:33

m de maria i'm

2:19:35

first of all you seem

2:19:38

to be everywhere i saw you in los

2:19:40

angeles and are rally i saw you

2:19:42

in england when in bass

2:19:44

when we're doing a better way conference you are so

2:19:46

dedicated how do you find the

2:19:48

energy like what's lives

2:19:51

honest you dell i know that

2:19:54

we're here for a reason and i

2:19:56

know that we needs to take a stance

2:19:58

in at these times and it's

2:20:01

so good to know that there are so many people

2:20:03

out there where we can join forces

2:20:05

and weekend builds a better way

2:20:08

for way better future is specially for

2:20:10

archie

2:20:11

that's awesome okay so tell me about

2:20:13

austria know this was a little closer to home

2:20:15

for you are so yeah

2:20:18

we reporter on a lot i think some

2:20:20

of the strictest measures we saw around

2:20:22

the world and now you are bringing

2:20:25

you know a conference their what

2:20:27

does a days to begin with people are are begin

2:20:29

the in europe they want to make to trip

2:20:32

ah where are they going to me all about

2:20:35

so we decided to

2:20:37

do a full day true friends so when

2:20:39

you come from abroad it's not

2:20:41

only one day like i came in for the

2:20:43

l a ready for a one day events but

2:20:45

i think it's even nicer if you have more

2:20:47

days to join in seoul ahmed

2:20:50

stops on september fifteenth

2:20:52

it's their estates and ends on

2:20:54

september eighteenth and

2:20:57

to give you a little insight on the programs

2:20:59

i came up with the i fear in

2:21:01

the best way conference involved when i saw

2:21:03

that so many three journalists made

2:21:06

friends with the medical and legal experts

2:21:08

that i said we need to join forces

2:21:11

and we need to have some clothes more

2:21:13

conference days and

2:21:15

arms so i came up with this idea

2:21:17

and i know people ask me hey maria i

2:21:19

can't look through the schedule what's

2:21:22

going on here media people

2:21:24

experts have rallied can you please

2:21:26

define what's going on so to start

2:21:29

to start with the media com friends that's

2:21:31

on thursday fifteenth and sixteenth

2:21:33

we sat the three journalists from all

2:21:36

around the world they need to

2:21:38

have a place where they can speak where they can

2:21:40

sell their journalists friends all around

2:21:42

the world would say think is most

2:21:45

important by the mid september

2:21:47

to tell their fellow colleagues

2:21:49

from all around the world and we sat

2:21:51

also we need to take and opportunities

2:21:54

where they can ask questions to

2:21:56

the experts like robert malone's

2:21:59

he will join or

2:21:59

line

2:22:00

look at it but he will be there

2:22:03

on i'm in person in vienna

2:22:05

and we will also have a pathology

2:22:07

com friends and so the media

2:22:10

people that have their own conference

2:22:12

will also be able to ask the questions

2:22:14

they've always wanted to ask to these experts

2:22:17

that's all

2:22:18

a friday

2:22:20

that's excellent and so then you have a pathology

2:22:23

conferences and none dynasty and doctor

2:22:25

ryan cause you'll be joining you on that

2:22:28

yeah so the thing is that he has a late

2:22:30

flight because he needs to do a presentation

2:22:32

on thursday night so he comes to be and are

2:22:34

very late on friday but she recorded

2:22:36

a video a recent a findings

2:22:39

that he had in the last week's and

2:22:41

he will report or in this video without

2:22:44

it and we will have professor brickhouse

2:22:46

from germany and also and

2:22:48

other experts in the field who

2:22:51

will and show the media people

2:22:53

the latest findings and on

2:22:55

saturday when we start our pets away

2:22:57

conference day we will start

2:23:00

with the panel where we have ryan cold

2:23:02

as a pathologist from the u s a's of the

2:23:04

first time meeting his colleague from germany

2:23:07

and in the panel we will also have professors

2:23:09

will go get box the and his wife professor

2:23:11

because you're not ice and many other

2:23:14

experts and we will have this saturday

2:23:16

in the meaning of and finding

2:23:19

a better way not only in the field of

2:23:21

medical and and and

2:23:24

legal and ways we also have

2:23:26

a professor of politics their professor

2:23:28

lead to go we also have a professor

2:23:31

[unk] economics is professor of egypt vanna

2:23:33

and we all have these experts and of course

2:23:36

also psychologists talking

2:23:38

about lovely can do in these demanding

2:23:40

times about health and challenges

2:23:43

and economic challenges and it's very important

2:23:45

and we reading invites vaccinated people

2:23:47

to come and join us because i

2:23:49

think it's so important that we all

2:23:52

you know reach our hands out to

2:23:54

each other and find a better way for

2:23:56

so many questions to the

2:23:57

they're so awesome the you doing

2:23:59

marie

2:23:59

yeah i love your passionate love that you

2:24:02

are bree all these people together from

2:24:04

around the world i know you're going to be streaming

2:24:06

this lives of people just go to the

2:24:08

website to get involved if you want to stream

2:24:10

in a world council for health dot org

2:24:12

slash newsroom i'm and

2:24:15

we will be screaming live on the high

2:24:17

why are you going to be doing a rally a

2:24:19

there in austria on sunday

2:24:21

and so for those of you if you're on are

2:24:24

taxed are on our mailing list you will get

2:24:26

that link and you'll yeah i mean you'll know what's

2:24:28

happening we're going to sort of buzz you when it's happening it'll

2:24:30

be right here on the website or maria

2:24:32

i wish the best were sending out a team to sort

2:24:35

of follow you and the great work that you're doing

2:24:37

i'm and you know give my best

2:24:39

to everybody there i wish i could be

2:24:41

there and but it's going to be a fantastic

2:24:44

event and so glad you're doing it

2:24:46

thank you so much thanks

2:24:48

right

2:24:50

all right well look i mean

2:24:52

this is what it takes what it takes people

2:24:55

suing for to sign stop

2:24:57

the censorship sometimes we're not the case

2:24:59

against to somebody else is case is thrills we've

2:25:01

had the rallies in los angeles we were able

2:25:04

to beat down a lot of the laws and had a

2:25:06

lot of success in california we support

2:25:08

these rallies i went to the one and than

2:25:10

the conference and bass and then in austria

2:25:12

it's happening everywhere you

2:25:14

are this movement is growing

2:25:17

and there's more more data showing that

2:25:19

we're not even sort of that fifteen

2:25:21

or twenty percent that's mathias

2:25:24

desmond often references that sort of small

2:25:26

minority we are really starting to look

2:25:28

in the numbers to me to be a solid thirty

2:25:30

percent and growing and i know a dignity

2:25:32

has made such a good points about

2:25:35

not being obsessed with time to be the larger

2:25:37

whole we need to be the focus

2:25:39

truth tellers and we carry ourselves

2:25:42

no matter how small that group is is

2:25:44

that group that has the light in that beacons

2:25:46

that brings about did seeds

2:25:49

and and and the better

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