Ryan Callaghan is one of the good guys.

There are a bunch of other things that can be said about First Lite’s Director of Conservation and Public Relations, hunting guide and frequent contributor to MeatEater. One of the more apt descriptions, though, is that Callaghan is real. The things he says and the things he does are one in the same. He backs up his passions with action. Callaghan is truly a conservationist because he gets involved. Whether it’s city council meetings, public land rallies, or his recent election to the National Board of Backcountry Hunters & Anglers; the Montana-native has built up a distinct voice in the world of conservation during his six years at First Lite. His opinion matters because it’s grounded in his efforts to fight for lands and wildlife. Also Cal knows a whole heck of a lot about the pursuit.

Callaghan joined me at the Western Hunting Conservation Expo in Salt Lake City for a great conversation on the trade show floor that explores many of hunting's toughest topics.

Enjoy, and we’ll see you next week.