“That sounded wiser than it was.”

In this Very Special Episode, Lance and Ray talk with EACH OTHER, getting real about their own lives and careers.

They talk about the way Ray's life happens in 2-3 year markings, Lance's leap from acting to writing, and what it means to be comfortable.

Also, Fountains of Wayne's "I've Got a Flair," Lance and Ray's Theories About Serial, and Ray and Lance talk Kardashian, Cosby, and Nichols.