This episode was recorded when Ron Steslow was host of The Lincoln Project Podcast (www.lincolnproject.us). He is no longer affiliated with the organization. This feed is now the home of Politicology. Our host and co-founder Ron Steslow talks to former Navy SEAL, Harvard Medical School graduate, and president of Veterans for Responsible Leadership, Dan Barkhuff and Gold Star mom Judy Gentz whose son Captain Joel Gentz was a combat rescue officer who died during a rescue mission in Afghanistan in 2010 about how Donald Trump’s words and actions have impacted the lives of military members and their families. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices