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podcasts. Sorry.
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Got here as fast as I could. After
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I left Ian Bartram's place, I left
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a message for Matt. A few minutes
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later, I got a call from Marcus Byron
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telling me he was on his way to Suffolk and to meet
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him at the Blake house.
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I had no idea what was going on and Marcus
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didn't want to elaborate over the phone. All
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he told me was that under no circumstances
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was I to enter the Blake house again without him.
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So
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tell me again what Ian Bartram said. How
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do you even know I'm... You guys have to stop leaving voicemails
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for each other. So
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I re-ran the details. The Marston
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House murders, the Blake family disappearing
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and their bodies being found in 2016, and
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I told him about the weird forensics results.
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And they tested more than once. This wasn't an
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error or a typo. He said they tested three
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times. What?
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There's a breach here. A what now? Open
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up. OK,
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what is your current level of credulity?
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My level of... What do you believe? I don't know
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what I believe. But you've seen some weird shit.
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Disappearing villages, something
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nasty in an underground tunnel, maybe a
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UFO. Oh, and my friend vanished into
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thin air for
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three years, does that count? You ever read Carlo Revelli?
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I have not. The Italian scientist
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is good. He talks about time being
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non-linear. We perceive past,
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present and future, but time doesn't really work like
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that. OK, how does it work? I
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don't know, I drifted off. I'm just trying to illustrate
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a point. About time? If time isn't linear,
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and we're not just here now, we're here
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in all possible times. But we
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can't see that because our brains can't process
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it. OK. A breach is like
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a tear in our perception of reality.
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Like a glitch that momentarily syncs everything
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up. I'm not really following this.
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Are you saying that this house exists simultaneously
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in different time periods?
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Not exactly, but that's close enough,
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yeah. So it's like a time machine? No,
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it absolutely is not like a time machine.
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But it transported the blake from Philip
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Gibson from 2010 to 1935.
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No, it didn't. OK, because that's where it
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sounds like you're going. Have you ever done
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psychedelics? Yeah. All
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right. Did you hallucinate? Hell yeah. Yeah,
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but did you? Or did you just
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perceive reality as it really is? You'd have to filter
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your mind puts on it. Oh, no. You can't
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even see a turtle. You should probably
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stay
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out here. Not a chance. Then
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stay close to me at all times and do exactly
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as I say.
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The house was exactly as it was the last time
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we were here. Byron didn't want
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me to record anything inside. That
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turned into a debate, so the compromise was
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that I would leave
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the recorder running, but I wouldn't narrate anything.
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Is that a radio? This is a
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bridge. We should be able to tune into it.
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What? On second.
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This
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is supposed to be an empty frequency. Meaning
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what? Meaning we're hearing the bridge.
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Or someone broadcasting illegally. Yeah, it's
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a part of radio station itself pumping out
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the hits of the 1930s.
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Well, someone told that was funny.
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This leaves an explanation because it happened
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before.
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There are sounds appearing on the Blake House recordings
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that aren't audible when you're standing in the house itself.
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Byron says these are artifacts of what he calls a breach.
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Fragments of another reality, another point in time,
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leaking through. Apparently his
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radio was also picking them up.
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So what you're hearing here are sounds that
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are going directly onto the recording, which we
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are not hearing in the room. And
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then, after a very short delay, those
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same sounds coming out of Byron's radio,
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which
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we can hear in the room. But you're going
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to hear both, if that makes sense. This
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is freaky.
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Yeah,
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if it's any consolation it never stops being
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freaky. However many teams you do this. No
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consolation at all, but thanks for trying.
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So how do we find this notebook?
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Well we're pretty sure it's not in the house right now, but
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we think Philip Gibson had it when he disappeared in 2010.
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So it's either in 2010 or it went
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with him when he went back to 1935. You
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said this wasn't a time machine. It's not the time machine.
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And how did it work? How does your mobile
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phone work? I don't know. Exactly.
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It just does. That's cute, but it's not possible
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for someone to go back in time from 2010. Meaning
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you don't believe it. Reality
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doesn't care what I believe. Yeah it doesn't, but that's irrelevant
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because you're going to believe it in a minute anyway. How's
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that? Because we're about to be in 1935.
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What do you mean we're about to be there?
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Well it seems likely doesn't it? I don't
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really know.
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I
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guess we're supposed to say there's no place like home when you do that. How
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old do you reckon this phone phone is? Well I'm not a geologist.
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Older than the house though, but these are flagstones
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and they're well worn. I
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reckon these were here in the original place. The Marston
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house? Yeah. Found
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on the site and reincorporated into the
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new build. Did you ever watch
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sapphire and steel? I don't know what that
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is. All the regularities will be handled
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by the forces controlling each dimension. Old
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things in new
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places.
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This floor is where the preacher originates. Have
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a seat. Is
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this like a science? Exactly like. The
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seances aren't about contacting the dead, they're
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about tuning into a broadcast. Okay, so
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what do we... We don't
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do anything.
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You sit there quietly and wait.
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What
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is the sound? Sound.
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Coming through the breach. From the past? No
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such thing. Look around. I
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did.
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And there was
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suddenly sunlight pouring in through
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the windows, where it was a grey winter's day before.
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And the hallway we were sitting on the
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floor of was no longer derelict. Although
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the stone was the same. This looked like a
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new space, almost immaculate.
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What the hell is going on? We don't mean
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you any harm. We
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made miss you, Mary. Without
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that equipment? Without that
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equipment, we can't hear you, Mary. We're just mailing you.
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Mary. Mary!
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Mary. Mary. Mary!
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Mary. Mary.
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Mary. Mary. Mary.
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I'll be
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hearing the blessing. That will be
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my guess. Stay quiet,
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Mary. Wait, you got babies? Mary.
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Mary. Mary. Mary.
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Mary. Mary.
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I think that's the door they went through.
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It
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had changed again. This
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wasn't the derelict space we had entered, nor
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was it the contemporary interior of the original Blake House.
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The stone beneath us
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was now covered by a large rug.
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The walls were a dark burgundy color, and
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the windows were covered with heavy drapes. It
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was dark in here now. Night had
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fallen outside. Is
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this... So
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close.
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But not if
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this
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makes any sense. I'm trying to make it make sense
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that some people got crying here.
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Ready?
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What is that?
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Some ancient beastie, I imagine.
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Did this hurt us? Oh,
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yes, it did, sir. Okay.
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We were in a library. Floor-to-ceiling
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bookshelves covered
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every wall. There
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were a couple of leather, chest-filled sofas and
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a writing desk with a lamp on it. That
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lamp was the only source of light. This is nice.
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Less nice.
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I could just make her out in the shadows
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across the
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room.
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An 11-year-old girl with long
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hair wearing a dress. As
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she moved, the light from the desk lamp glinted
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off a
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pair of long scissors in her hand. Is she real? Define
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real. Are you
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married? Look on the desk. There
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it was. A thick notebook
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bound with a rubber band. It
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looked out of place in this room. You go left. Get
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the book. I'll distract.
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Hello Mary! We're
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not getting a gym, we just need to talk something.
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We'll be on our way.
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This
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is always right here. How do we get along? Stop
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trying
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to make it make sense. You're bleeding. Where
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is she? We won't hear her. The radio broke.
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We need to get out of here. Uh-huh.
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How?
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Tried all the doors. What
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is it? What
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is it? Come
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on, here.
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What is it? What
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is it? What is it?
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Stop it! Shut
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the door! There's
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no door! What? Oh. They
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were not how they ended up in
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the shut-up. Wait. This is... It
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was daytime again. That
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was easy to judge because we were looking directly
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up at a gray, suffolk sky. We
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were at the bottom of the hole outside the Blake House. In
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the original Marston House cellar where
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the five bodies had been found in 2016. We
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climbed out of the hole and we were back on solid ground
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outside the Blake House,
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which looked exactly as it had when we arrived. Ah.
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We need to get you to a hospital. We
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actually don't. Look
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at
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that. That's just a scar.
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I'm sorry. Look
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at that. That's just a
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scar. Yeah.
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From when I got stabbed back in 1935. Tell
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me it was worth it.
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It
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was.
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This is it.
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We found Robert Blake's notebook. Good.
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