Seattle, Washington: Steven Rinella and Janis Putelis talk with environmental historians Dan Flores and Randall Williams. Subjects discussed: what's up with Flores' two upcoming books, American Serengeti and Coyote America; biodiversity during the pleistocene; the Blitzkrieg Hypothesis; George Wolforth's 1884 view of the Llano Estacado; historic elk distribution; how the grey wolf changed the coyote; fission-fusion societies; the nightly vocal census of the coyote; New York City's coyote bar scene; why coyotes kill pets; Flores' influential take on bison population decline; and the myth of General Sheridan and the post-Civil War buffalo slaughter.

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