Patricia and Christian talk to geographer and author of 1000 Castaways Clint Ballinger about ways of understanding the relationship between commercial bank credit creation (horizontal money) and state-issued currency (vertical money) in a modern money system and much more.

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1000 Castaways by Clint Ballinger: https://clintballinger.wordpress.com/2019/01/14/1000-castaways-introduction/

Decouple Spending From Bond Sales by Clint Ballinger: https://clintballinger.wordpress.com/2018/11/13/decouple-spending-from-bond-sales/

The Myth of Hyperinflation by Clint Ballinger: https://clintballinger.wordpress.com/2021/01/12/the-myth-of-hyperinflation/

Federal Debt and Modern Money by Steven Hail & David Joy: http://www.global-isp.org/policy-note-121/

An MMT Response on What Causes Inflation by Scott Fullwiler, Rohan Grey & Nathan Tankus: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332318485_An_MMT_Response_on_What_Causes_Inflation

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