It’s no secret that I’m curious about people who have had what I like to call ‘non-linear careers’—meaning people who are driven by curiosity and passion to find their path in life. Phil Asmundson is one of those people. Try this on for size: degrees in geology and physics; degree in accounting; career with Deloitte, rising to deputy chair of the firm; and vineyard operator and winemaker with his wife, Kim. The only thing that would make his career any more non-linear would be if he became, I don’t know, a successful novelist. Oh wait—he did.

There’s a lot to be learned in this interview with my friend Phil. Please listen and enjoy.