Dave Rubin of The Rubin Report talks to Nick Gillespie, editor at large for Reason, about his appearance on Bill Maher where Gina Carano was defamed, the inevitable end of the government spending under Joe Biden, and the easiest way to turn a Democrat into a libertarian. First he discusses how slander has become a normal part of the public discourse. Nick warns about the danger that Joe Biden’s fiscal policy puts us in. How much can government spending rise before a market crash brings us back to reality? Despite the government's parade of failures during the pandemic, people seem to desire even more big government by supporting ideas like vaccine passports. Nick reveals the quickest way to make any centrist flip and become a libertarian. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices