Topics: Golden Boots, Growing up in South Jersey, Romo Tonight, gravitating toward drums, Trashcan Hawaii, no-grass, poking at ideas, ceilings, repeating Desperado, Devo, early four-tracks, psych rock, bigger drums, the Flaming Lips, subtle inspirations, barriers for entry, conspiracy rock, over-ambitious tours, proving you’re a band, feeling welcomed, excellent collaborators, weird luck, odd releases, CDs inside of tacos, KXCI, quilted albums, Mike Dixon, pushing every envelope, wire recorders, Wight Lhite, complementary songwriters, chance meetings, Park The Van, Magnolia Electric Co., The Teeth, great things happening, joining Dr. Dog, frustrating stupidity, whitewashing culture, re-branding to spite people, and the things we do for love.