Steve interviews Jeff Pearlman (00:14:53). Jeff joins us to talk about his new book, "Three Ring Circus." The book is the definitive Shaq/Kobe era Lakers book and his second book on the Lakers. Jeff talks about Kobe vs. Shaq and who is the heel and who is the face of the rivalry. Jeff also discusses talking truthfully about Kobe's life after his death, compares the book to Sweetness, and ponders selling a book in 2020. Jeff also talks about his twitter account and engages in pleasant banter with Steve.

Also, Ryan Aber (01:32:21)from The Oklahoman joins us to talk college football, the Oklahoma Sooners, and Pearl Jam. Ryan talks about Lincoln Riley, Spencer Rattler, and the Sooner's perpetually disastrous defense. Ryan also talks about Gigaton, Pearl Jam concerts, and Pearl Jam being awesome. Steve starts the show talking about the end of the Stanley Cup Playoffs. The book club now has Dynasty and Three Ring Circus in the rearview mirror and looks ahead to Sneed and Cole. OLT ends the program with Steve talking about his Grandmother 25 years after her death.

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